Will RO2 follow the RO nature of DLC?

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jolorulz

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What I'd like to know is if Rising Storm is going to be a mod (which would mean it's for free) or a full on expansion pack (which would mean you have to pay for it). Right now I don't think anyone knows much about it and am hoping that it'd be free either way... 'cause I'm such a cheap skate.. XD
 

Damo

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I'm not being funny but I'd feel a bit robbed if what started out as a mod then became a chargeable product just because a few devs went to work on it as well. I know some people may take that the wrong way and think i'm a greedy b*stard but it's a genuine feeling so meh!

That's not to say I wouldn't buy it, but I'd be slightly disappointed.
 

timmyvos

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What I'd like to know is if Rising Storm is going to be a mod (which would mean it's for free) or a full on expansion pack (which would mean you have to pay for it). Right now I don't think anyone knows much about it and am hoping that it'd be free either way... 'cause I'm such a cheap skate.. XD

Depends on the quality of the mod; if it's really really good, on par with, or better than most other games/expansion packs Tripwire'll release it as DLC, probably around $15 and if still good but not that good they'll release it as a mod, for free.
 

godtom

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That's about the best way of putting it... although I am quite amused at our "usual stuff free" bit - you mean the usual way that others DON'T do?

5 years ago DLC was not common place on the PC market, Companies are just milking it now.

I like the way Kf dlc is, that's the way it should be.
 
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cukrius

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How is DLC not extra content?
I applaud TWI for the free updates model which is excellent, but just because you paid for the original game, it doesn't entitle you by default to the ownership or right of added maps that took months to produce and endless hours of hard work.

It's something that TWI is simply generous enough to offer us, and we should appreciate it greatly and not take it for granted. Sadly a lot of other companies go the other way instead of the TWI model. Another great thing with the free model is that it doesn't separate the community within RO.

Well, please do tell me an example where a dlc was actually NEW content. The only one that comes to mind is the bfbc2 vietnam dlc, which actually adds new content.

Lets say you buy a game called Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad and later you have to buy a dlc which adds weapons, maps and tanks. Maps with the idea of eastern front. Weapons that were used in eastern front. Tanks that were used in eastern front. Now please tell me, that the game you bought was complete, having in mind the dlc's?

Is the game complete, if you have to later pay for what it lacked in the start? You can almost say that you are paying for patches, which is technical support, in other words you are paying for what you already paid.
 

:Dark Dragon

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Please don't ruin this game with DLC. Please. Please. Please. Please.

It will be a sin so great it will probably bring about the end of the world.
 

dogbadger

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What I'd like to know is if Rising Storm is going to be a mod (which would mean it's for free) or a full on expansion pack (which would mean you have to pay or it). Right now I don't think anyone knows much about it and am hoping that it'd be free either way... 'cause I'm such a cheap skate.. XD

apologies if this not/no longer the case, but my impression was from the get-go was that rising storm was an official addon, that you would have to purchase.

As such it is indeed not a mod, however some confusion may arise due to the fact it is being developed by (for the most part at least) community members many of whom are former modders for RO.

It is not right to feel aggrieved if Rising storm is charged, as it has not changed it's stance, that's been the plan from the outset.
 

madlulz

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Please don't ruin this game with DLC. Please. Please. Please. Please.

It will be a sin so great it will probably bring about the end of the world.

DLC does not ruin games! DLC has this horrible misconception around it due to the current state of the gaming industry. DLC is not always paid for! Some great companies like TWI do it because they love their community. PLEASE TWI, KEEP this game up with DLC like RO1. Just don't charge our lovely leatherbound wallets dry. :eek:
 
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Damo

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apologies if this not/no longer the case, but my impression was from the get-go was that rising storm was an official addon, that you would have to purchase.

As such it is indeed not a mod, however some confusion may arise due to the fact it is being developed by (for the most part at least) community members many of whom are former modders for RO.

It is not right to feel aggrieved if Rising storm is charged, as it has not changed it's stance, that's been the plan from the outset.

That's cleared some things up for me, thanks :)
 

dogbadger

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many ppl talk as if Tripwire are the only company in existence who patch games with free maps and other content - i think this is a bit unfair and not strictly the case

However the idea to have competitions that allow community members to create maps that may be added to the game officially is an excellent idea - that clearly benefit everyone.
That's where other developers could take a leaf out of Twi's book - and i'm sure what helps here is the Dev's active presence on these forums.


I do wonder what TWI are going to do for post-release profit for RO2, though... :confused:

continue to sell more copies, surely. don't be silly.
 

Panzer Jager '43

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I think we may get both free AND pay-for DLC.

Like, you know, Killing Floor.

Free would be weapons, maps, vehicles and possibly game modes.

Pay for would be new additions to your hero's uniform, such as those Badges you get with buying RO2 while previoulsy owning RO1.
Additions to your uniform would without a doubt, NOT be restricted to just medals. *IF* this is something Tripwire is going to do, since I'm only theorizing based on Killing Floor, then you will likely be able to buy things such as a Greatcoat or helmet meshes, etc...
 
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BigMorgan

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How about DLC the way Bohemia Interactive did it? All players get the additional content free but with low-res textures and low-quality sounds. You pay for the high-quality versions.

Cheapskates get free stuff, the rest of us can happily plunk down $15 to support a favorite developer. :)
 
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psycho78

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making people pay for rising storm will be a mistake. I know they need money but I bet a lot of people would just play darkhest hour 2 instead or some other mod that hopefully will be free and not sell out dlc
 

C_Gibby

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making people pay for rising storm will be a mistake. I know they need money but I bet a lot of people would just play darkhest hour 2 instead or some other mod that hopefully will be free and not sell out dlc

It does smell of Bad Company 2: Vietnam to me, but we also gotta remember that it's got a different bunch of people working on it, and it's treated as a seperate game, as opposed to BC2:V.
 

heady89

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making people pay for rising storm will be a mistake. I know they need money but I bet a lot of people would just play darkhest hour 2 instead or some other mod that hopefully will be free and not sell out dlc

How is it a sell out if its good enough to be an expansion?
And how do you know that it'll be a mistake?

I'm interested as hell in Rising Storm and i'm sure others are as well. They've a dedicated and experienced team that is working really hard on it, if its expansion quality i have nothing against paying for it and i most certainly wouldn't play DH instead of RS.. i'd play them both.

Back in the days , true expansions were quite common gotto love moh:spearhead, united offensive etc and its quite different from a small DLC which just separates the community only due to 1 map or 1 weapon differentiating while this is more or less a new game.
 
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Zephyr

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making people pay for rising storm will be a mistake. I know they need money but I bet a lot of people would just play darkhest hour 2 instead or some other mod that hopefully will be free and not sell out dlc
See, you shouldn't really consider it to be a mod. It's made by some really proffessional modders completely supported by TWI and it's coming with it's own singleplayer. Not to mention that it's been stated that RS will be adding new features to the game..
The mod can be it's own game if it wants to! (don't do that)

I would feel kinda guilty paying only $15 for the game while I payed $60 for that 5th modern warfare poop.
 
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Das Bose

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making people pay for rising storm will be a mistake. I know they need money but I bet a lot of people would just play darkhest hour 2 instead or some other mod that hopefully will be free and not sell out dlc

Not at all, it makes perfect sense if the mod is top quality! Why shouldn't the guys who slave away at making mods that we all play get paid?

Sorry m8 but talent should be rewarded, and when that happens it's called success ( see TWI ), not selling out!

:rolleyes:
 
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GuntherKraag

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I think that Rising Storm was aiming from the start at becoming an oficial expansion for RO2. The backup plan was to make it a free mod if it wasnt up to TWI standards.

And if it adds, as it seems to be the case a new operational theatre together with new features, i will gladly send TWI another small chunk of dosh.
And i think the people working on the project deserve some reward for their dedication, that way they can buy their kids a new pair of shoes (winter is cold out there for barefoot kids).

That said i will enjoy the other good mods that will come out, like In Country and others. And if tripwire gives the same suport to RO2 that it gave to its other titles in the past, we can expect tons of new free content like maps, vehicles :IS2: and other cool stuff.
 

dogbadger

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making people pay for rising storm will be a mistake. I know they need money but I bet a lot of people would just play darkhest hour 2 instead or some other mod that hopefully will be free and not sell out dlc

'some other mod'
it's not a mod - it's an official addon - under the direction of Tripwire and made to their standards.

They have granted an opportunity for talented modders to get a professional start in the industry - if that's a mistake then all the more credit to them for taking that risk.

Whether you buy it or not is entirely up to you but to moan about it is to complain about any game that cost money.you crazy.

Ppl who want to play DH2 will do so anyway - and of course you're welcome to yourself.
After all, in days gone i always got the impression that the mod attracted quite a few ppl who had 'issues' with RO and you're sounding a bit like that yourself.
Interestingly enough, i wasn't entirely surprised to hear the sequel was going to break away from Ro altogether -

You never know - they might end up deciding they want a bit of money for all their hard work too - big mistake?