Will RO2 Be Banned In Australia??
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I hope it isn't, this country is steadily becoming a little bubble-state
your not alone
most of the world is becoming BIG BROTHER
disgusting
Are you 100% sure the Australian version of RO has reduced gore? I have it and I see limbs being blown off, pools of blood and gibs everywhere. I seem to recall hearing that the OFLC is more lenient to violence in games when it comes to war games, the idea being that it's educational as it shows the horror and consequences of war.
In fact I was pretty awed by it just after I bought the game, I was on kaukasus in the bottom of a tower with an enemy on the level above me. I threw a grenade up and killed him and watched as one of his severed arms bounched down the stairwell
@ everyone else, after an appeal from Rebellion and the resulting review of the upcoming AVP game it has no longer been refused classification in Australia and is now being released as is
Oh it really is, the 'big government' creep is in full effect here and the majority of people are either too apathetic or ignorant to realise this nor care.I hope it isn't, this country is steadily becoming a little bubble-state
Did you hear that the government has decided to green light internet censorship, legislation for it will be put to the senate before the next election. The proposed form is a mandatory filter to block out all content that could be deemed refused classification, which can include all sorts of things that are legal for an adult to purchase and own.
The associated cost of maintaining filtering hardware and blacklists will be passed onto the ISP and therefore the customer, not to mention the unavoidable latency issues caused by packet inspection. So our internet will get slower, cost more and be made PG.
With this in place we will have the most repressive internet control in the whole world, even moreso than China and Syria.
Only hope is it doesn't get through the senate, the Greens are against it, and the liberals were, but with the latest shake up there who knows which way they'll swing
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Well that's good reddog, cuz I'll be moving to Aus soon enough and I don't want my gorey canadian version games to suddenly shoot pixi dust and fairy bums all over the place when I get there.
I'll already have to figure out how to drive on the other side of the road and that the blinkers and wipers are flipped on the steering wheel...... having my video games all flowery and cute would really make the integration more difficult.
As if goes for the internet crack down crap, I've been following it... in our country things are tottally opposite and we have some of the slackest laws around and are well known for our pirated booty.
Yarrrrr.....
But all one has to do is appeal and argue that these laws infringe on your basic human rights and personal privacy laws, not to mention access to information and communication. Once the government starts restricting information and education (no matter what their excuses are or what the content in question is, it all leads to the same place) then you are oppressed and all those freedoms and rights people keep bragging about are lost. Then the government no longer works for you, you work for the government.
And when that happens, what's the difference between Canada, the US, Australia, the UK, and Iran, China, North Korea or any other nation out there we finger point at for being oppressive and restrictive on their citizens??
Exaggeration?
Perhaps at present, but look back 30 years or more... .look back at the freedoms we all used to have and no longer have because it's for our own good we're told?
Just look at all the crap you have to go through to enter the US now, esspecially after buddy set his bird on fire.
No carry on luggage except a laptop and diapers for a kid.... full body scans that look through your clothes and scan your entire body, which is probably kept on file forever.... can't get out of your seat or goto the bathroom in the last hour of flight.
#1 - The guy had the bomb strapped to his wang.... not his carry on, so that idea doesn't solve the problem.
#2 - Full body scans and keeping your body on file...... doesn't sound worth it to me.
#3 - Can't get up out of your seat for an hour? If the guy has a bomb on his wang and is already on the plane, he can blow up anytime he wants.
All because the government and their little organizations dropped the ball and didn't follow their already screwed up procedures they put into place back when Bush was pres. Hell even the guys father contacted agencies from the US to tell them to keep an eye on the guy and that he was going to attack some how..... yet nothing was done.
And now we're giving more crap to deal with because they screwed up..... and we put up with it like chumps.
Just like alcohol prohibition, the war on drugs and every other dumb idea of the government's, they're trying the same stunt with the internet, because anything that the people enjoy and makes them happy is bad.... you can't keep them scared and oppressed if they're happy all the time.
End of Rant.
I'll already have to figure out how to drive on the other side of the road and that the blinkers and wipers are flipped on the steering wheel...... having my video games all flowery and cute would really make the integration more difficult.
As if goes for the internet crack down crap, I've been following it... in our country things are tottally opposite and we have some of the slackest laws around and are well known for our pirated booty.
Yarrrrr.....
But all one has to do is appeal and argue that these laws infringe on your basic human rights and personal privacy laws, not to mention access to information and communication. Once the government starts restricting information and education (no matter what their excuses are or what the content in question is, it all leads to the same place) then you are oppressed and all those freedoms and rights people keep bragging about are lost. Then the government no longer works for you, you work for the government.
And when that happens, what's the difference between Canada, the US, Australia, the UK, and Iran, China, North Korea or any other nation out there we finger point at for being oppressive and restrictive on their citizens??
Exaggeration?
Perhaps at present, but look back 30 years or more... .look back at the freedoms we all used to have and no longer have because it's for our own good we're told?
Just look at all the crap you have to go through to enter the US now, esspecially after buddy set his bird on fire.
No carry on luggage except a laptop and diapers for a kid.... full body scans that look through your clothes and scan your entire body, which is probably kept on file forever.... can't get out of your seat or goto the bathroom in the last hour of flight.
#1 - The guy had the bomb strapped to his wang.... not his carry on, so that idea doesn't solve the problem.
#2 - Full body scans and keeping your body on file...... doesn't sound worth it to me.
#3 - Can't get up out of your seat for an hour? If the guy has a bomb on his wang and is already on the plane, he can blow up anytime he wants.
All because the government and their little organizations dropped the ball and didn't follow their already screwed up procedures they put into place back when Bush was pres. Hell even the guys father contacted agencies from the US to tell them to keep an eye on the guy and that he was going to attack some how..... yet nothing was done.
And now we're giving more crap to deal with because they screwed up..... and we put up with it like chumps.
Just like alcohol prohibition, the war on drugs and every other dumb idea of the government's, they're trying the same stunt with the internet, because anything that the people enjoy and makes them happy is bad.... you can't keep them scared and oppressed if they're happy all the time.
End of Rant.
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lets not turn this into a I HATE THE NEW WORLD ORDER thread ^_^
Because I could go on alllllllllllllllllllllllll day about how much I hate Gov.
If there is a special version of this game to get a release permission in some countries like australia or narrow minded germany with no gore or reduced gore, so please please make it depending on the cd key algorithm like in killing floor or all the other valve games. I bought RO:OST in UK when it was released and after the stupid patch it was cut too, i know the gore effects are not that impressive,because of the old engine but i think the gore effects in UT3 engine will be cooler and i want to see them too in my stupid country when i buy an expensive import version,otherwise i have to move to the netherlands to play it uncut
I approve that - i bought RO in UK and it cost back then around 10euro more then the german version, but it got cutted after several patches and this sucks bigtime
do it like valve and put the cutting crap in the CD-key algorythm, so that UK and International version stay unharmed in anyway of blood/gore cutting.
thx
RO was cut by an updated version of the steam cloud when the achievements were added. They didn't know that valve had changed other things as well in the steam cloud. And after this was done there was apparently no way to turn things back.
Because they knew about this issue beforehand with KF, they were able to make things different so that people with an uncut version wouldn't suddenly get cut, and so germans could buy an UK version to get the uncut one. So ROHOS will most likely be utilizing the same system as KF uses as well.
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Concerning the Gay Republic of Germany also called Bundesrepublik HoS will be reduced to a child toy once more. I can remember too well that yet voices were exchanged in several Call of Duty games. Not just that the Allies were talking German instead of English no simply bad words like "Nazi" or "Fascist", were replaced by "Deutsche" (germans) or "Feind" (enemy), too famous German commanders like Rommel were renamed to "Der feindliche General" (the enemy general) and any pictures or intro videos showing 3rd Reich high ranking people like Himmler, Hitler, Goebbels or G
The irony here is just too much to take in.
But I don't think it will be banned In Australia, mate. At worst the gore level will be reduced and that's not that bad really, it could be worse, with any luck the whole video game censorship issue may come to a close soon due to a large number of supporters to add an R-rating similar to what we do with movies.
We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
But I don't think it will be banned In Australia, mate. At worst the gore level will be reduced and that's not that bad really, it could be worse, with any luck the whole video game censorship issue may come to a close soon due to a large number of supporters to add an R-rating similar to what we do with movies.
We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Yeah, we ought to move to Somalia, the Libertarian paradise!
But seriously, legislatures should recognize most gamers are over 18, and have an appropriate rating. That said, be glad you non Americans in certain countries just have to worry about violence and questionable portrayals of Facism. In the US, we are seriously censored on the sex and news (you'll almost never see blood on the news). Seriously sanitized.
Over here, violence is OK, but sex is bad.
Edit: I don't know about you guys, but gore doesn't show up too obviously for me in RO. If I'm ripping somebody's limbs off with a PTRD, I'm usually too far to see in clearly, and require the binocs - which is too much trouble. Though the occasional tank HE round direct hit -> vaporise is kind of insane...
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here, pretty much anything is ok, except swearing, which I don't know why they are starting to copy the americans in adding those "beeps" to the swearing. At least its only in TV programs and not in games or movies, those are thankfully, completely untouched.
Except when some parents association bought the rights of Saint Seiya so nobody could air it anymore because they said it was too violent for children and promoted homosexuality. But that was a strange case about 15 years ago.
Except when some parents association bought the rights of Saint Seiya so nobody could air it anymore because they said it was too violent for children and promoted homosexuality. But that was a strange case about 15 years ago.
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Gore adds to the immersion it's as simple as that, and at the same time it is realistic since war is gritty. All in all it's a game and i personally think violence an gore belongs in it, if people can't handle it then they shouldn't be playing the game.
And governments that are against violent entertainment should start treating its inhabitants as adults and focus on whats really causing people to grow up as violent folks. In the end you can never blame somebody's actions solely on a game, it's always more too it than that even if a game might be the final ignition.
And governments that are against violent entertainment should start treating its inhabitants as adults and focus on whats really causing people to grow up as violent folks. In the end you can never blame somebody's actions solely on a game, it's always more too it than that even if a game might be the final ignition.
The problem is that those ignorants want to think that they can control violence and depravity by making up a source they can ban to solve the problem. Its just an illusion they want to believe.
Or maybe, modern society just needs demons and fears... terrorists, homosexuals, immigrants, pandemics, video games, dictators, sex, pollution, global warming, drugs, satanists, perverts, economy, guns, etc... Its like they are trying to put us in a shielded cage in which you can live a peacefully boring life, lived in constant fear, connected to a brainwashing TV set until the day you die.
The middle ages were violent and they didn't have video games or movies.
Or maybe, modern society just needs demons and fears... terrorists, homosexuals, immigrants, pandemics, video games, dictators, sex, pollution, global warming, drugs, satanists, perverts, economy, guns, etc... Its like they are trying to put us in a shielded cage in which you can live a peacefully boring life, lived in constant fear, connected to a brainwashing TV set until the day you die.
The middle ages were violent and they didn't have video games or movies.
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Yes, but they did have violent tapestry and wall hangings
yes, they had those, and they didn't need videogame influence to make them! makes me wonder why we don't have them too ><
But it was mostly knight-on-knight violence. You rarely had school shootings... possibly due to the difficulty to conceal cross-bows, lack of schools in addition to the dearth of good violent video games (Duke Nukem Forever was just announced).
Actually, what I find odd about "full-gore" and violence in movies is how tweaked from reality some of it is. RO in full-gore doesn't have nearly as much blood on the ground as you would see in traumatic injuries. Secondly, blood is always depicted in movies and video games are dark red - it's grittier. But anyone who has cut themselves know that fresh (arterial) blood is bright red - almost silly looking bright red.
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I dunno man I'm pretty sure it was brutal... the Thirty Years War killed off like a third of the population of Europe. And most of those were civilians.
Pillaging and raping villages was pretty much standard in all the wars back then. During the crusades every time Jerusalem got sacked they basically massacred everyone inside, men, women, and children.
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The problem about school killingsprees is not the games as a major part. I believe that there's a large problem with the society going on. Those people are mainly alone, without friends and aren't integrated in the society. Often they are treated like bad foreigners. Some day they believe it's Judgement Day and this is the day of the killingspree. Secondary to this there's the media attention. I believe that if the media didn't rush in on that topic that much doing a killingspree would be way less attractive.
Too killingsprees have been there for all centuries. For example for the storm of the Bastion in Paris, France. This can be seen too as a killingspree. Okay it's not done by one single person but the French people were treated badly and they felt there has to be justice on day.
BUT of course the todays' media has an influence on values, values that disintegrate. Look at how people are treating each other in public. Just imagine in the German Reich, there would have been no school killingspree at no time. And yeah it was easier to get a gun at that time I believe.
Still many films have extreme gore much more than in reality but why? Cause people are crazy about looking at this, they need something to jerk off.
No seriously, people obviously like this extreme gore. I've to admit I'd never play Unreal Tournament 2003/4 and UT3 without its extreme gore.- Status