Why is Pavlovs House an Attack/Attack Map??

[Maizel]

I like attack/attack. I also like attack/defend. Mixes things up a little. Also gives both sides the option to either attack or defend, rather than restricting one side to attacking or defending

 

[NoxNoctum]

Lol if the tank is camping just mortar it, and wham it's gone. Plus mortars take like no time to recharge.

 

[dsi1]

Pavlov's House is a terrible map. PzIV drives to january 9th square, camps the 2nd russian spawn with hull-MG and camps the russian tankspawn with cannon.

Being hull-down behind the wall it WILL win any encounters with T34 because it's stupidly good and won't die even with it's 50mm armor.

AI-hullgunner snipes everyone with MG headshots and player shoots any tanks coming out. You win EVERY SINGLE TIME. Map needs a LOAD of rebalancing.

Yep, the map is awesome, but the imbalance between tanks is just magnified on it.

 

[Mormegil]

Being hull-down behind the wall it WILL win any encounters with T34 because it's stupidly good and won't die even with it's 50mm armor.

Ausf G has 80mm armor. Plus, I *think* AP tank shot can penetrate walls - at least I was hit by a tank from behind a wall.

 

[Reise]

If you're having tank problems just play Pavlov's role and blow them away from the upper floors of his house with a PTRS.

That's how he earned his fame you know.

If RO2's tank armor values are accurate, the top will be vulnerable to shots.

 

[Pig]

i love it when bad player cry for balance.

RO=team game


option 1: mortar
option 2: Smoke
option 3: l2 play T34 and how to 1 hit a P4 or how to kill the commander in one shoot


Pavlov is one of my favorit maps and as soviet there is an incredible secure way to get behin german lines, if i managed to do that the stabbing begins

 

[Jorg Biermann1]

If you're having tank problems just play Pavlov's role and blow them away from the upper floors of his house with a PTRS.

That's how he earned his fame you know.

If RO2's tank armor values are accurate, the top will be vulnerable to shots.

That's how I've killed tanks with the PTRS on Russians and Germans.

 

[Kasspa]

The Russians did NOT attack the german positions from the apartment building that was later named Pavlovs house. THe building was captured by the russians then fortified in order to be defended to the last man in line with the "not one step back" policy. The platoon (led by Sgt Pavlov due to their units Lieutenant being blinded) that captured the house was crippled from their endeavour and were in no position to "initiate harassment raids" as I believe you put it. They were barely in any condition to defend the building. This is what makes Pavlovs house so famous.

This map in no way reflects the events that took place in real life and a different name would be appropriate.

I was under the assumption the battle for Pavlovs House was much more like this guy presented it. The best I did was read wikipedias article which I'm sure is not 100% accurate but if that is the best I have to go off of, then I would say that yes Pavlovs house was a fortress that the russians defended or died trying, there was no offensive attacks once those troops fortified that building. Maybe afterwards, but during the actual battle where the germans tried for several weeks to capture that house they were met by some SERIOUSLY dug in Russians.

I was a bit dissapointed after playing the map and thinking how wrong the gameplay felt, when compared to the story of the battle for Pavlovs House that I read.

 

[Altus]

Maybe it's the soviet bravado that makes the allied side consider it a failure to "just" hold the house and not push the germans back by at least a kilometer

 

[BlackLabel]

Because there's more to TE-Pavlovshouse then Pavlovshouse alone. The map has multiple objectives.

Pavlovshouse itself was used by the red Army as a base to initiate harassment raids from. Did you expect Pavlovshouse to be a Russian defense map? If yes, why if I may ask?

becuase it one of the most fought over strongpoints ? i was thinking more of the old OST version of it perhabs...

 

[DiedTrying]

I was under the assumption the battle for Pavlovs House was much more like this guy presented it. The best I did was read wikipedias article which I'm sure is not 100% accurate but if that is the best I have to go off of, then I would say that yes Pavlovs house was a fortress that the russians defended or died trying, there was no offensive attacks once those troops fortified that building. Maybe afterwards, but during the actual battle where the germans tried for several weeks to capture that house they were met by some SERIOUSLY dug in Russians.

I was a bit dissapointed after playing the map and thinking how wrong the gameplay felt, when compared to the story of the battle for Pavlovs House that I read.

My attorney informs me that you don't have sufficient license to use that phrase.

You've got 3 options. 1. Pay fine and redact 2. Pay for license or 3. Get sued.

 

[Kasspa]

My attorney informs me that you don't have sufficient license to use that phrase.

You've got 3 options. 1. Pay fine and redact 2. Pay for license or 3. Get sued.

Mine has a space between died and trying, nice try though

 

[SasQuatch]

The Russians did NOT attack the german positions from the apartment building that was later named Pavlovs house. THe building was captured by the russians then fortified in order to be defended to the last man in line with the "not one step back" policy. The platoon (led by Sgt Pavlov due to their units Lieutenant being blinded) that captured the house was crippled from their endeavour and were in no position to "initiate harassment raids" as I believe you put it. They were barely in any condition to defend the building. This is what makes Pavlovs house so famous.

Thanks for the lecture

This map in no way reflects the events that took place in real life and a different name would be appropriate.

What you describe is one of the events that took place in those months. Countdown reflects that enough like Onein already pointed out. But it is not all that happened.

Once the Germans ran out of steam, the Red Army actually did use it as a base for raids to harras the German Army. Territory reflects that period.

We could have named the map 9 Jan Square. But we named it PavlovsHouse since we have multiple stories to tell here.