Why is classic mode so dead?

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Nikita

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because your character runs slower than molasses and it makes every map one sided.

This man speaks truth.

Spare me the "the people have decided" sermon. As much as people take issue with "wasted dev time on Classic" (a fallacy, to be sure), the mode still isn't fully refined yet. I love Classic and play it almost exclusively, but even I can completely see why people are turned off by the movement issues.
 
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Spacehogking

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There are no TWI Official Classic servers, only TWI Official Realism/Action. The only Classic server I know that has an active full population is in the UK. Otherwise, servers like 50pc TAT are rarely ever populated.
 

Bluehawk

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A lot of the maps seem poorly made for the new movement speeds, with cover being too far apart. I die far more often in Classic mode just trying to get out of spawn than I do in Realism. But then again, I haven't really gotten back into my groove yet.
 

omniconsumer

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We just put up a classic server. Hopefully more people will play and help to populate. For now it is being played on by a handful of people. Hopefully it will become more popular.

It is located in New York City, great hardware, awesome bandwidth.

|LMC| Territory Classic (LMCgaming.com)

96.250.44.198:7779

or

ro2.lmcgaming.com:7779
 

greenlemonade

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Classic mode is ok.

Realism mode is more fun IMO.

If you want classic mode to be popular, play it. Don't whine on the forums. I personally join custom servers with some classic settings. Some TW devs have also said that is there favorite way to play.



Ominconsumer,
you are right. It is more fun against bots in classic. All the handy caps plus them all having bayonets and us being so slow makes the bots more challenging. :)
 
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Mormegil

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I don't always play RO2, but when I do, I prefer Classic mode.


But seriously, I prefer Classic mode, but if I can't find a decently populated server, which is likely at 8pm Pacific time, when I have time to play, Realism is almost as good. I just wish more of the populated servers ran combined arms.
 

Gudenrath

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No. I share the DEVs preference for Realism. Only big down side is the leveling for me.

I am another RO1 vet that prefers realism. The slow movement and the extreme sway in classic is neither realistic or fun. There is simply more control over your character in realism, which makes for better immersion as well as a overall more enjoyable gaming experience.

I don't really mind the levelling system, but wouldn't shed tears if it was removed.
 

Cyper

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This man speaks truth.

Spare me the "the people have decided" sermon. As much as people take issue with "wasted dev time on Classic" (a fallacy, to be sure), the mode still isn't fully refined yet. I love Classic and play it almost exclusively, but even I can completely see why people are turned off by the movement issues.

On the other hand, the movement and speed in Realism Mode is instead too twitchy and fast which for me ruins the experience. In Classic its too low but it do slows down the gameplay to a more realistic level. Regarding recoil and sway its too low in Realism Mode. Not because its set at a realistic level in Classic but with lack of feeling for weight of each weapon, and with no aim- and deadzone, there is no learning curve at all to master each weapon.
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A lot of the maps seem poorly made for the new movement speeds, with cover being too far apart. I die far more often in Classic mode just trying to get out of spawn than I do in Realism. But then again, I haven't really gotten back into my groove yet.
Cover should never be constructed in a convenient ways anyway. It should not even be considered; the map should just be built and then the player should just just have to adapt. The tunnelshooter concept just makes the maps more unrealistic imo.

In general, if Classic was the core mode maybe more people whould play it. The fact that Realism Mode is called just that - brings some people to play it. When the development of Classic started, and in the beginning when there was a lot of polls regarding realism and gameplay, a lot of people were involved. In one thread 800+ people had voted. There was a huge amount of threads and posts. I think many people was sure that Classic would bring old players back including myself. Now, these people are not present. They are not playing the game. I honestly don't know why and I there is certainly not one answer to it.

Still, Classic Mode is not completed. At least not in my opinion. In the future, the ability to enter and exit vehicles must be present aswell as bigger and open map design that does not only increase the freedom of engagement for infantry, but also for tanks. So its not the like future is sealed or something.

Its sad to see that Action Mode is popular though.

It's easy for people to say: What does it matter? You can still play the mode you prefer. Well it sounds good on paper but it ain't that simple. Look at Splinter Cell, ofp, ghost recon. This ''choice'' gets diluted more and more for every game that is released. If the core of the game gets based on that sort of stuff it's going to affect the game as a whole. At least for those who take note of it. If we're thinking long term, this might just mean that the niche minority get the short end of the stick. The fact that TWI took this step with RO2 worries me.

But I'm quite used to get ignored and kicked around. I'm a part of a minority, and the minority is useless and should be thrown in the trashcan. The only company that blindly cater to their core fans is Bohemia Interactive and they've done that for a decade. I hope TWI do the same.

No matter if Classic is popular or not atm, it boost my effect for TWI a lot and it brought my faith back, especially with the knowledge that they wont just drop support like most gaming companies. With Rising Stom and custom made maps, and future tweaks and fixes for realism mode, it does at least sound very, very positive.
 
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