RO2 why can't PTRS hipfire?

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chuy

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Clowndoe said:
If I understand what you're saying I think it's still almost impossible to expect someone to hipfire a PTRS/-D in a hurry. I don't actually know where a PTRS fits into a TO&E but I imagine he isn't part of the first contact, rather the PTRS are issued to companies or battalions, meaning they're only brought out after an armored vehicle is sighted, largely nullifying the chance an AT gunner would have been surprised at close range in real life.
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Funny thing is that we are not a battalion. We are right in the Germans face. Of course, if we talk of real wars then of course the AT soldiers are not going to be way up front.

This game has few features that inaccurate like a rifleman with a pistol. I would not be asking for hipfiring PTRS if we had a CREW!! AT soldiers always had a buddy with an SMG that would help carry, load, carry those huge 14.5mm cannon shells..... and ESPECIALLY, protect the AT soldier.

I dont recall pictures and stories of AT soldiers being alone unless he got killed. It is probably going to be hard to implement this because people will think that your the AT soldier's pet going around carrying his stuff and loading the gun for him and such. A really strong connection is going to be needed for PTRS crew to happen.

THAT is why I want PTRS hipfiring. If we get AT crews, no hipfiring, if we dont get crews, I want hipfiring then.
 
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Jpz38 Hetzer

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chuy said:
Funny thing is that we are not a battalion. We are right in the Germans face. Of course, if we talk of real wars then of course the AT soldiers are not going to be way up front.

This game has few features that inaccurate like a rifleman with a pistol. I would not be asking for hipfiring PTRS if we had a CREW!! AT soldiers always had a buddy with an SMG that would help carry, load, carry those huge 14.5mm cannon shells..... and ESPECIALLY, protect the AT soldier.

I dont recall pictures and stories of AT soldiers being alone unless he got killed. It is probably going to be hard to implement this because people will think that your the AT soldier's pet going around carrying his stuff and loading the gun for him and such. A really strong connection is going to be needed for PTRS crew to happen.

THAT is why I want PTRS hipfiring. If we get AT crews, no hip firing, if we dont get crews, I want hip firing then.
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Have you ever considered "borrowing" a weapon off a dead guy? Dead people stuff rules, you can get pretty much any gun if you look hard enough. Just have the scavenged weapon out and switch to you AT rifle when you need it. You'd have a better chance at surival then if you tried hip firing that monster.
 
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Jpz38 Hetzer said:
Have you ever considered "borrowing" a weapon off a dead guy? Dead people stuff rules, you can get pretty much any gun if you look hard enough. Just have the scavenged weapon out and switch to you AT rifle when you need it. You'd have a better chance at surival then if you tried hip firing that monster.
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IRL, you can't hold the PTRS in your back. It had no strip and the rifle is longer than you so its going to be hitting the ground-even if its diagonal, it will still hit the ground. So some of you say just get another weapon, well, I cant IRL. But since its in-game, i guess you could. If you ever see a player with PTRS in their back, just laugh because TWI made a severely shorter model of the weapon idk why.
 
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chuy said:
IRL, you can't hold the PTRS in your back. It had no strip and the rifle is longer than you so its going to be hitting the ground-even if its diagonal, it will still hit the ground. So some of you say just get another weapon, well, I cant IRL. But since its in-game, i guess you could. If you ever see a player with PTRS in their back, just laugh because TWI made a severely shorter model of the weapon idk why.
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They probably made it shorter for a number of reasons like avoiding clipping issues or it getting stuck. And being able to hold the ptrs on your back isn't really that big of a deal. Just learn to live with it.
 
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Jpz38 Hetzer said:
They probably made it shorter for a number of reasons like avoiding clipping issues or it getting stuck. And being able to hold the ptrs on your back isn't really that big of a deal. Just learn to live with it.
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I do live with it. Its just that some TWI wanted certain things historically accurate and sometimes, like this example, as if, just called a COD developer for a day or two.... (not to be offending)

I mean stuff like no pistol for rifleman is a no-brainer. And there is no "Heroes" in the Red Army. Stalin was the Hero. Kinda an oxymoron. :p
 
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It's still more realistic than COD on ever level, they didn't get lasy with the weapons. And I kinda like the hero concept.
 
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The hero concept is a good one. He is that odd ball natural born killer that does 90 percent of the fighting. 50 percent of soldiers did not even fire their weapons the first time in combat. And most where just there. A vary small percentage of soldiers do a disproportionate amount of the fighting. And you never know who or why.
 
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Yeah I like that. It seems that in every war you get someone who is just ridiculously awesome, like Alvin York or that guy who shot like 40 Japanese with a Garand or that guy in 'Nam who got hit by a tracer then pulled the pin on a grenade and threw himself into the enemy MG nest or that Japanese guy on the US supreme court who got shot by a rifle grenade then waxed 10 or so people or that one sniper guy (Norwegian or something?) who killed some ridiculous number (several hundred) people using a 9130 with no optics.
Wow there were alot more examples there than I thought there were going to be :/
 
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r5cya said:
he got lots of those kills with a suomi smg. but he was still a bad-***! all the Finns were!
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Actually, if the Wikipedia article is anything to go by, those 500 kills were with his rifle. The alledged 200 kills he got with his sub-machine gun were on top of that.
 
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r5cya said:
thanks for the correction. I wasn't looking hard enough at the 500. :eek:
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You don't have to apologize, I don't think I've killed that many people in all my playtime in all of my games combined, strategy games included. That makes it hard to take in.
 
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chuy said:
IRL, you can't hold the PTRS in your back. It had no strip and the rifle is longer than you so its going to be hitting the ground-even if its diagonal, it will still hit the ground. So some of you say just get another weapon, well, I cant IRL. But since its in-game, i guess you could. If you ever see a player with PTRS in their back, just laugh because TWI made a severely shorter model of the weapon idk why.
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If this true then basically you shouldn't be able to hoodies either as your rifle will be on the ground!! And in a point blank range in which is the only time hoodies is useful it would be too slow to point up and shoot.
 
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mrsirr said:
Yeah I like that. It seems that in every war you get someone who is just ridiculously awesome, like Alvin York or that guy who shot like 40 Japanese with a Garand or that guy in 'Nam who got hit by a tracer then pulled the pin on a grenade and threw himself into the enemy MG nest or that Japanese guy on the US supreme court who got shot by a rifle grenade then waxed 10 or so people or that one sniper guy (Norwegian or something?) who killed some ridiculous number (several hundred) people using a 9130 with no optics.
Wow there were alot more examples there than I thought there were going to be :/
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The Japanese veteran was a US Senator, not a supreme court justice. He took out two machine gun nests with a bullet in his belly, then blew up a third after getting his right arm blown off by a rifle grenade. Awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, later upgraded to the Medal of Honor.

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Inouye#Military_service_.281941.E2.80.931947.29
 
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mrsirr

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Over here, no not there, here.
Ah yes that's what it was. But I didn't know his arm got blown off.
Of course needless to say that only makes him more badass.

EDIT: Yeah you guys can feel free to correct me on those, I'm not making any claims as those were all just off the top of my head.
 
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