Why automatic weapons suck in RO2 (Especially PPSH41)

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Panth3r

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Sep 5, 2011
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This game is a FKING EPIC FAIL !

Best ****ty game i have played ...

Totally absurd game.

Totally unbalanced.

UHUHUH ! i'm in axies GODMOD, i FCK ALL with my RETARDED weapons.

UHUHU, Im a RETARDED AXIES, I CAMP AND I WIN.

UHUHU, i CAN RESPAWNKILL.

****, i stop this game, many money in my ***.
 

Merin Redplate

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Apr 18, 2010
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This game is a FKING EPIC FAIL !

Best ****ty game i have played ...

Totally absurd game.

Totally unbalanced.

UHUHUH ! i'm in axies GODMOD, i FCK ALL with my RETARDED weapons.

UHUHU, Im a RETARDED AXIES, I CAMP AND I WIN.

UHUHU, i CAN RESPAWNKILL.

****, i stop this game, many money in my ***.

Will that be all?
 

dextronaut

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jun 26, 2009
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This game is a FKING EPIC FAIL !

Best ****ty game i have played ...

Totally absurd game.

Totally unbalanced.

UHUHUH ! i'm in axies GODMOD, i FCK ALL with my RETARDED weapons.

UHUHU, Im a RETARDED AXIES, I CAMP AND I WIN.

UHUHU, i CAN RESPAWNKILL.

****, i stop this game, many money in my ***.

It all comes down to the player. It doesnt matter what side im on i will still rape the other team. If im the Russians i grab the SVT40 and clear out entire buildings of MP40 noobs, and if im a German i grab the G41 and clear out entire buildings of PPSH41 noobs because im skilled no matter what side or gun im using.
 

DarknRahl

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Sep 6, 2010
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I've got kills at 100m with the ppsh against an enemy rifleman, we both only had our heads showing. Up close it is a boss hip fired, if I try and look down the sights I just get killed.
 

Graphic

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Aug 2, 2006
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That PPSH fire rate seems much lower in game than in real life. It sounds like a little mg42 in those videos!

I noticed this. Kind of a bummer. I thought all the weapons in the game are supposed to be exactly like the real thing. Maybe they didn't get the recoil perfectly realistic on everything, but the least they could do is type in the correct ROFs into the stats.

Also, is it just me, or is it 1,000 times harder to get hip kills in RO2 than RO1? Sometimes in close quarters (bumping into someone turning a corner) I unload with the PPSh from the hip and literally not hit him ONCE. In RO1 he would have been cut in half at the waist.
 

Derpus

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Mar 16, 2011
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A real PPSH41 does not have that much recoil. Refer to the videos.

The dude is clearly forcing it down in the first video, not to mention he looks at least slightly larger than a Russian from 1940. Like the poster above said, you hold down the mouse to fight recoil, like that guy is holding the gun down in the video. The recoil is fine, especially if you're rested against something. I got a 148 m kill with PPSH on a moving target just last game.
 
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the_Monk

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Aug 4, 2011
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Made like this so Nazi fan boys don't get mowed down constantly.


You really do have a problem making posts that don't just sound like *****fest/flamebait huh?

1. Playing for the germans doesn't in any way make someone a "nazi fan boy". Period.

2. All automatics in this game need nerfing with regard to round "lethality" at distance. A rifle round at 200m is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than either SMG round would and that's the problem in most FPS's. They don't model the round they model the firearm and so artificial ways of balancing them for gameplay are introduced instead.

If you keep the "flamebait tone" out of your future posts you might actually get somewhere......
 

psgchisolm

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Jul 10, 2011
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"but this video shows..." F- your video. The TWI team actually consulted with WEAPONS EXPERTS. People who spent years firing all types of weapons. Not some internet warrior who posts any video he sees and calls it truth.
 

FBOTheLiuetenant

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Mar 20, 2006
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No, the automatic weapons in RO2 are way too easy to kill with. I've gotten headshots with the PPSh 100+ meters agaisnt snipers, the AVT kicks ***, the MKb is ridiculous, the MP-40 is uber, the MG's are hipfire bullet hoses of death.

Honestly, just put more effort into combating recoil. Up your sensetivity and try to really use your mouse to combat the muzzle climb, I've gotten to the point that Im so effective at combating recoil that my AVT ends up shooting the floor instead of the skiy.
 

BigMorgan

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Jul 25, 2011
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As someone who played way too much over the last 2+ weeks I will tell you that when you start getting the stat bonuses on the PPSh it becomes unstoppable at almost any range encountered in this game.

By the time you get the drum it's AMAZING, then you NEVER HAVE TO RELOAD on top of it!

IMHO it's superior to the Mkb42, the bolts, even the Laser Death Cannon (AKA the MP40 sniper weapon system).

/fanboi
 

Zoring

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Nov 21, 2005
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Stop posting 3rd person Youtube videos, it's not at all apparent watching someone externally what's going on in their sight picture. The PPSh41 is perfectly controllable. Here is a video of me shooting a Gewehr 98, it appears that i'm holding it perfectly steady right? Well from my pov looking down the sights there was actually a lot of movement in the kneeling position with the heavy bayonet on, I only hit the 3 rather than the central 5. But looking at it you wouldn't think so.

Gewehr 98.MPG - YouTube
 

Derpus

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Mar 16, 2011
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Stop posting 3rd person Youtube videos, it's not at all apparent watching someone externally what's going on in their sight picture. The PPSh41 is perfectly controllable. Here is a video of me shooting a Gewehr 98, it appears that i'm holding it perfectly steady right? Well from my pov looking down the sights there was actually a lot of movement in the kneeling position with the heavy bayonet on, I only hit the 3 rather than the central 5. But looking at it you wouldn't think so.

Gewehr 98.MPG - YouTube

off topic, but DAT HAT. They should add you as a class in TF2.
 
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MrLebanon

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You're also supposed to manually compensate for the recoil, which is harder ingame than it is IRL.

This

pullling the mouse down with reasonable speed/force that it counters the upward motion of the gun

the old man in the video braces himself in order to keep the gun steady
in a game we have to use the mouse to adjust the kickback

it's not so much the 18 yr old russian soldier
it's the player being able to handle it


however - i feel the real problem is the mp40 being way too easy to handle in contrast to the ppsh
and of course the hellborne mkb42 horde