Well I was thinking more along the lines of random weirdos who saw the zeds and said "Oh boy it finally happened!" and immediately set about making a home-made zombie-proof suit like on that one episode of the Walking Dead.
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Do they not? I know I've heard of at least one woman who's been injured while serving a tour in one of those countries.
The female characters could always be civilians maybe one or two military girls. i know in this type of crisis everyone is going to pick up a weapon and defend themselves it won't just be the military fighting the specimens.
You have my thumbs up.
I would like to create a character like skyrim or fallout and customize.
You have my thumbs up.
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I have a female friend who served as medic during the Gulf War and then 2 tours in Iraq and Afghan and she said that there are women in the bases and such, but they never sent women in the actual missions. She is in the (US) Army though. I don't know if the other branches (USMC, Rangers, etc) are sending women on the field. They were sending women close around the base and such, but they never used women for missions like purge the insurgents, secure the village, etc.
I guess that would explain why I've never ever seen a woman in any combat footage.
Apparently missed the "no women in games" derailing, don't know what's wrong with some people.
Also this is not a game about the military so these "realism in the military"-arguments, you can just go on over to the Arma forums or something with them.
This is a zombie (zed/specimen/clone/whatever) apocalypse scenario in a civilian setting, where anyone who can survive will survive, including the mall santa, guy in a chicken suit, DJ Scully (yaaay) or GOD FORBID, a few women in whatever profession or situation they happened to be in when **** hit the fan.
Also this is not a game about the military so these "realism in the military"-arguments, you can just go on over to the Arma forums or something with them.
This is a zombie (zed/specimen/clone/whatever) apocalypse scenario in a civilian setting, where anyone who can survive will survive, including the mall santa, guy in a chicken suit, DJ Scully (yaaay
) or GOD FORBID, a few women in whatever profession or situation they happened to be in when **** hit the fan.
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Nothing wrong with having a couple of girls in an action game...
Anyone thinking woman aren't as capable as men have got to stop living in the 20th century.
Anyone thinking woman aren't as capable as men have got to stop living in the 20th century.
Apparently missed the "no women in games" derailing, don't know what's wrong with some people.
Also this is not a game about the military so these "realism in the military"-arguments, you can just go on over to the Arma forums or something with them.
This is a zombie (zed/specimen/clone/whatever) apocalypse scenario in a civilian setting, where anyone who can survive will survive, including the mall santa, guy in a chicken suit, DJ Scully (yaaay
I doubt the women will survive for that long. Maybe, for a short period right after the outbreak, but again just maybe. They have to deal with slavers, bandits and other traders of flesh you know
i like having lots of female characters in kf2, it will be cool and look good and makesense. just going to talk about infantry combat and killing humans for a second.
sorry for long post just want to point out that even if people are right about women in military the argument doesn't belong here as it still has nothing to do with killing floor 2 as not only is it a game but it is a game about killing specimens.
the fighting in recent years in afghan and iraq haven't had clear frontlines so afew women have been killed here and there on the ground.
there is going to be a review and it is predicted that women will be allowed in fighting units in afew years time (maybe even in two years time) but still it will only be a very, very few women who get into such units. it's predicted to be maybe afew dozen women.
in afghan most frontline infantry units were just positioned to hold small alamo forts and occasionally got into long range minor skirmishes and they make up a small fraction of the forces, shock troops are a small fraction of frontline infantry units but do very different jobs.
infantry shock units which do most of the attacking, dirty work and heavy lifting make up a very small percentage of armed forces. with british forces it was some of the commando units who were doing all the work in afghan.
least of main issues women being fighting soldiers is physical ability though it will make it harder for women to pass selection process for combat units in the first place.
other minor of the main issues is comradery and all that band of brothers stuff. that isn't really a issue as such romantic nonsense doesn't affect the ideal soldiers.
the major issue is the differences of psychology between sexes.
even with well trained man you don't know how he's going to react to situation where he's being shot at and must advance to kill humans and after killing fellow human beings he needs to immediately move on and advance to kill the men in the next enemy position.
also how he is going to do such things when his colleague has just been killed but needs to put it out of his mind and carry on his job with professionalism.
there is nothing worse than having men in a shock unit who get in combat and start cracking up when people are counting on them to do their job. it puts other men's lives at risk and ties up other people in the unit to deal with them giving the enemy time and a big advantage risking the lives of everyone in the unit.
with women who are generally far more emotionally intelligent and empathetic the chances of those sort of disasters happening are far greater.
another part is that trauma is very real today because of huge work load on just afew people and many people who were in such units where you take it to the enemy destroys their mental state for years or even life. some people say that it is irresponsible to allow women to do such jobs as the risk is higher.
alot of men who fought in such units and killed many, many people as you will do and countless times had people very near trying to kill them end up with their home lives destroyed, abusive and can't care about their wife or children or friends, can't sleep and have nightmares and wet themselves and often end up committing suicide or suffering from extreme paranoia - actually hallucinating and believing non-existent people are in their house or in public places and are trying to kill them (much like extreme cases of schizophrenia) and they can become a danger to other people in society.
it sends a significant fraction of men mad and it will be much higher with women so people say it is protective to not allow people who are more likely to be damaged in such a way into fighting units.
similarly the other part of the main issue of women being fighting soldiers is not what women are capable of, it is more what some men are NOT capable of that makes them ideal.
ideally you want psychopaths and sadists as they make the best soldiers as they are very cold, calculating, logical thinkers and they purely enjoy killing. they don't care who, they don't hesitate, they don't value life, they don't get scared they will just jump at the chance when they are told they can kill and follow orders in any situation.
when someone has a desire to kill without being hot headed about it and geniunely enjoys killing life without needing any ideals then they make the best soldiers.
those are the people that the best officers look for when recruiting for units that are attempting to be elite, remorseless child killers. that is already a small minority of men, with women it is ever rarer. women very rarely fit that as almost all have an innate instinct to make and protect children, not kill them.
but killing floor 2 isn't about killing fellow human beings so these things are irrelevant.
it doesn't matter when it is about people whose main priority is to survive, not to kill.
if anything most women may not have killing instincts like some men but they may generally have better survival instincts than men which colud give them an advantage against zeds and when to run away.
and especially as it is just a video game made for entertainment and fun anyway and we don't want a sausage fest unless you're fantasmo and like that sort of thing and posting pictures of half naked men and referring to them as "sexy"
sorry for long post just want to point out that even if people are right about women in military the argument doesn't belong here as it still has nothing to do with killing floor 2 as not only is it a game but it is a game about killing specimens.
women are currently not allowed to fight in direct combat. there is a ban on it like with much of the world so that they cannot join infantry units for direct combat, it is illegal to put a woman in a infantry unit for direct combat and is punishable.
the fighting in recent years in afghan and iraq haven't had clear frontlines so afew women have been killed here and there on the ground.
there is going to be a review and it is predicted that women will be allowed in fighting units in afew years time (maybe even in two years time) but still it will only be a very, very few women who get into such units. it's predicted to be maybe afew dozen women.
in afghan most frontline infantry units were just positioned to hold small alamo forts and occasionally got into long range minor skirmishes and they make up a small fraction of the forces, shock troops are a small fraction of frontline infantry units but do very different jobs.
infantry shock units which do most of the attacking, dirty work and heavy lifting make up a very small percentage of armed forces. with british forces it was some of the commando units who were doing all the work in afghan.
least of main issues women being fighting soldiers is physical ability though it will make it harder for women to pass selection process for combat units in the first place.
other minor of the main issues is comradery and all that band of brothers stuff. that isn't really a issue as such romantic nonsense doesn't affect the ideal soldiers.
the major issue is the differences of psychology between sexes.
even with well trained man you don't know how he's going to react to situation where he's being shot at and must advance to kill humans and after killing fellow human beings he needs to immediately move on and advance to kill the men in the next enemy position.
also how he is going to do such things when his colleague has just been killed but needs to put it out of his mind and carry on his job with professionalism.
there is nothing worse than having men in a shock unit who get in combat and start cracking up when people are counting on them to do their job. it puts other men's lives at risk and ties up other people in the unit to deal with them giving the enemy time and a big advantage risking the lives of everyone in the unit.
with women who are generally far more emotionally intelligent and empathetic the chances of those sort of disasters happening are far greater.
another part is that trauma is very real today because of huge work load on just afew people and many people who were in such units where you take it to the enemy destroys their mental state for years or even life. some people say that it is irresponsible to allow women to do such jobs as the risk is higher.
alot of men who fought in such units and killed many, many people as you will do and countless times had people very near trying to kill them end up with their home lives destroyed, abusive and can't care about their wife or children or friends, can't sleep and have nightmares and wet themselves and often end up committing suicide or suffering from extreme paranoia - actually hallucinating and believing non-existent people are in their house or in public places and are trying to kill them (much like extreme cases of schizophrenia) and they can become a danger to other people in society.
it sends a significant fraction of men mad and it will be much higher with women so people say it is protective to not allow people who are more likely to be damaged in such a way into fighting units.
similarly the other part of the main issue of women being fighting soldiers is not what women are capable of, it is more what some men are NOT capable of that makes them ideal.
ideally you want psychopaths and sadists as they make the best soldiers as they are very cold, calculating, logical thinkers and they purely enjoy killing. they don't care who, they don't hesitate, they don't value life, they don't get scared they will just jump at the chance when they are told they can kill and follow orders in any situation.
when someone has a desire to kill without being hot headed about it and geniunely enjoys killing life without needing any ideals then they make the best soldiers.
those are the people that the best officers look for when recruiting for units that are attempting to be elite, remorseless child killers. that is already a small minority of men, with women it is ever rarer. women very rarely fit that as almost all have an innate instinct to make and protect children, not kill them.
but killing floor 2 isn't about killing fellow human beings so these things are irrelevant.
it doesn't matter when it is about people whose main priority is to survive, not to kill.
if anything most women may not have killing instincts like some men but they may generally have better survival instincts than men which colud give them an advantage against zeds and when to run away.
and especially as it is just a video game made for entertainment and fun anyway and we don't want a sausage fest unless you're fantasmo and like that sort of thing and posting pictures of half naked men and referring to them as "sexy"
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Apparently missed the "no women in games" derailing, don't know what's wrong with some people.
Also this is not a game about the military so these "realism in the military"-arguments, you can just go on over to the Arma forums or something with them.
This is a zombie (zed/specimen/clone/whatever) apocalypse scenario in a civilian setting, where anyone who can survive will survive, including the mall santa, guy in a chicken suit, DJ Scully (yaaay
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with having women in videogames. What is wrong however, is putting characters of a certain race or gender just to fill some quota. No one who cares about videogames cares if there's characters of a certain gender or race in the game. Those who do care, we call professional victims.
The only thing that should matter is the artist's vision.
And on topic, spetsnaz with a drinking problem when?
You are full of nonsense.
1. From your whole post I gather that you are a victim of the "women are wonderful" effect
2. In 1963., in one of the Milgram's obedience to authority experiments it was found that 100% of participating women shocked the puppy while only 50% of men did.
3. Recent research showed that female tenagers are drastically more prone to sadism, manipulation, harassment and ostracism as opposed to male counterparts who are more focused on cooperation and competitive deescalation.
4. Throughout history and today males are treated as disposable garbage, beasts of burden or war. Please read this to understand this and remind yourself of the female privilege.
5. Joining the military, no matter the gender, is an immoral act in itself. It is an act of cowardice, ignorance, or greed, let a former veteran explain this to you.
6. In the past the wholesale butchering of men was the routine in a statist system but today the state is hijacked by hideous feminism, making the equality of results instead of the equality of opportunity the new standard.
So, when I see females being shoved down our throats in any game despite the fact that people don't want it, makes my blood pressure go up because it continues on the same sexist, misandrist mainstream media narrative.
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my whole post was actually about how anyone with half a brain joins the armed forces because they want to kill other humans without good reason and that officers and other soldiers want other good killers with them who are unlikely to snitch about execution and torture and they feel that they know that women are stupid and cowardly when it comes to killing humans so they don't want them.
how you think being mean to people and shocking a puppy is comparable to being good at killing enemy soldiers and being remorseless with killing other humans i'm not sure. a person shocks a puppy if authority tells them to. an effective soldier will shock a human to death without anyone telling him to do it.
they don't want people who are evil without thinking for themselves, they want people who are evil when they are thinking for themselves.
good soldiers aren't the sort of people who have any kind of shred of respect for authority or states without reason, their reason to respect authority is because that authority will continue to give them opportunities to kill more humans.
would you rather have a man shoved down your throat?
noooooooCan someone just ban Fantasmo already?
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