Whats up with M14

[The Demon of the Fall]

I've heard alot about the M14 EBR being a used by "Spammers"
and that it ruins your playing style and teaches you bad habits
now as a level 5 SS, i swear by handcannon and lever action rifle to get me through,
could someone explain what is the big deal with the M14?
i'm not saying there isnt one bbut i would like to know more...

 

[nutterbutter]

Shoots too fast
Way too much ammo
No recoil
Insta-kill for everything below scrake
Generally works as armor because nothing is going to get close

But other that that it is a great weapon.

Laser never bothered me

 

[Evilsod]

If you'd ever used the M14 you'd know...

 

[The Demon of the Fall]

If you'd ever used the M14 you'd know...

yeah i guess when you get it when you're level 1 or 2 after loads of saving it was pretty cool
i haven't used it in ages though
i have a love affair with hc

 

[Major Liability]

M14 is useful when a ton of low levels join your suicidal game, one good high level M14 sharpshooter (aims doesn't spam) can compensate for an entire team of noobs. Otherwise it's boring.

 

[Nenjin]

It's a sharpshooter weapon that encourages sharpshooters to play like a commando. Players wanted a SS weapon that did both sniping and shooting from the hip....but the M14 tips way too far toward shooting from the hip.

 

[vealck]

M14 is useful when a ton of low levels join your suicidal game, one good high level M14 sharpshooter (aims doesn't spam) can compensate for an entire team of noobs. Otherwise it's boring.

This. Also, it's useful in getting high kill counts, like over 1000, if that's your sport.

The thing is, pretty much ANYONE can get this, spew bullets without any aiming whatsoever and think he's a good player.

Only real use is on 25-50 players servers, where M14 spammers can't take down a scrake alone due to insane amounts of health zeds have.

 

[Double_Deagle]

yeah i guess when you get it when you're level 1 or 2 after loads of saving it was pretty cool
i haven't used it in ages though
i have a love affair with hc

Me too! God, the handcannon is just so good.

 

[CandleJack]

I prefer 1 handcannon, because it has **** all accuracy when i use it.

Also nutters, you left out one of the biggest "flaws" of the M14.

It reloads insanely fast. Faster than a commando. This means:

No recoil, high rpm spamming with a laser sight, pretty accurate.
High damage takes down a lot.
Insanely fast reload speed compensates for when you empty a mag.
Large number of magazines for when you spam a few magazines.

So not really a sharpshooter weapon, and it leans towards a commando-style of playing.

Though if you were to use this style of playing with commando you'd empty your weapons fast.

 

[Xolat]

No recoil

This is not true, there is a huge recoil below level 5, isn't that the point of leveling?

Maybe it has too much ammo, but then again if you carry M14 there is not much room for anything else and you need the ammo to take out scrakes and fleshpounds.

Maybe instead of lowering M14 ammo SCAR ammo should be increased, commando is pretty useless with M14 sharpshooter around.

 

[CandleJack]

but then again if you carry M14 there is not much room for anything else and you need the ammo to take out scrakes and fleshpounds.

...you srs?

With an M14 you can carry either dual HCs or a LAR.

so on top of the M14 you can take down FPs/scrakes easily with the LAR or pwn the **** out of stuff with the dual HCs.

 

[playmaker_41]

This is not true, there is a huge recoil below level 5, isn't that the point of leveling?

Maybe it has too much ammo, but then again if you carry M14 there is not much room for anything else and you need the ammo to take out scrakes and fleshpounds.

the thing is freaking 5 weights FIVE! thats one weight block lighter than a bullpup. Think about it

 

[Deafmute]

Maybe it has too much ammo, but then again if you carry M14 there is not much room for anything else and you need the ammo to take out scrakes and fleshpounds.

Maybe instead of lowering M14 ammo SCAR ammo should be increased, commando is pretty useless with M14 sharpshooter around.

Just...just no.

Commando is useless with EBR spammer around because the EBR has too much ammo, not because the SCAR doesn't have enough. The SCAR has plenty of ammo.

Also where on earth do you get the idea that there's not enough room to carry much else with the EBR?

 

[outofrealman]

Actually I found commando do even better than ss in killing zeds up to scrake.

AK can one shot pop off the heads of clots, gorefasts, bloats, stalkers. Sirens only takes a few shots. SCAR can one-bodyshot crawlers. Around 4-6 headshots to kill a 6-man suicidal husk, even you spam SCAR to a husk's body, he dies in half mag. Scarcks can be killed without raging him if all your bullets hit the head.

Meanwhie, commando can have AK + SCAR with ease (normally in a 6-man game sharpshotoer cannot affort both M14 and SCAR). The only thing commando cannot do while ss can is killing fleshpounds.

But the thing is, due to the really high amont of ammo and extreme low recoil of M14 in ss hands, it is spamable. M14 + dual HCs can spam all over the wave and may still have ammo left. Support is said to be balance because you cannot spam, you have to consider before each shot or you run out of ammo FAST.

 

[outofrealman]

Maybe it has too much ammo, but then again if you carry M14 there is not much room for anything else and you need the ammo to take out scrakes and fleshpounds.

By this line you make me think you are one of the "spammers" using M14.

Do you know how much bullets you need to down scrakes and fleshpounds using M14 IF you aim for the head? Although I haven't play with M14 for really long time. I am sure in a 6-man suicidal game, fleshpounds take surely less than 8 headshots to kill WITHOUT raging him. Scrakes die before they rage, too.

And, M14 is only 5blocks..... you can have a granade launcher together with the M14 AND STILL HAVE SPACE to carry pipebombs.

 

[Xolat]

What is this M14 spammer talk?
Do you mean that it is firing without aiming, if so I never do that with any weapon, I think nobody does that.

It's a shame KF doesn't have any statistics, like accuracy, I'm sure mine would be well above 70% with any weapon.

Also you always ran out of M14 ammo on suicidal.

 

[Nenjin]

Do you mean that it is firing without aiming, if so I never do that with any weapon, I think nobody does that.

YouTube - killing floor M14

 

[Oldih]

This is not true, there is a huge recoil below level 5, isn't that the point of leveling?

You can spam M14 even as non-sharp to some tolerable degree if the target is moderately close, and presuming you can aim straight with ironsight it's possible to pop heads with basically 1-2 shots only for most of the low level zeds. Of course this doesn't apply on suicidal.

Maybe it has too much ammo, but then again if you carry M14 there is not much room for anything else and you need the ammo to take out scrakes and fleshpounds.

Last time I played with M14 + LAR combination I didn't restock M14 for in about 5x waves as I barely had shot more than four magazines empty over the course of the game and I still had no problems with scarkes of FPs.

 

[HaTeMe]

What is this M14 spammer talk?
Do you mean that it is firing without aiming, if so I never do that with any weapon, I think nobody does that.

Except that EVERYONE does it. M14 has horrible iron sights so nobody uses it, they just spam the weapon randomly with lasersight on, because it has relatively big clipsize, fast rate of fire and MASSIVE DAMAGE.

 

[Xolat]

M14 doesn't have horrible iron-sights, I can almost always one-shot bloats and husks from across the map.
The only drawback of M14 iron-sights is that you are much less aware of your immediate surroundings unlike with SCAR.