Also the order for the removal of the Tri-colour decal came in 41? iirc. So that should always be missing. As you can see in the previous photo even the veterans didn't necessarily remove their Adler
What do you think a German / Russian Veteran soldier should look like?
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Sovied veterans could wear few watches. I heard from lots of sources they enjoyed "confiscating" them during raid on Berlin. There is popular rumor behind famous photo of soldier setting up USSR flag on Reichstach - he had watches on both hands and soviet censors decided to erase them 
Sovied veterans could wear few watches. I heard from lots of sources they enjoyed "confiscating" them during raid on Berlin. There is popular rumor behind famous photo of soldier setting up USSR flag on Reichstach - he had watches on both hands and soviet censors decided to erase them
I heard that story too, maybe there is some truth behind it
LOL... ok captain serious pants. Take a deep breath.
Its designed to stop shrapnel not bullets. Just like German helmets and flak jackets in Vietnam.
Besides we don't want a class running around invulnerable to bullets that would be too imbalanced.
Besides changes showing the player being more hardened, such as aged uniforms & equipment, etc..... the characters face should have more age lines, dirt, facial hair and the sort.
But even better would be a system in the settings/controls that allows you to upload a front-on photo of your own face, note where the mouth, nose and eyes are in the photo and it makes a modified-aged facial texture based on your own features.....
.... Modified-Aged in that if your 14 years old or 23, whatever, it will make a similar facial texture similar to your own, but looking like you're in your late 30's to mid 40's.
But I don't know how easy it'd be to impliment such a system.
But even better would be a system in the settings/controls that allows you to upload a front-on photo of your own face, note where the mouth, nose and eyes are in the photo and it makes a modified-aged facial texture based on your own features.....
.... Modified-Aged in that if your 14 years old or 23, whatever, it will make a similar facial texture similar to your own, but looking like you're in your late 30's to mid 40's.
But I don't know how easy it'd be to impliment such a system.
Most of the German lads on the frontlines weren't in their mid-40's
Also the Reichstag watch business is no rumor, here is the original print. In the edited version more smoke is added and the watch on the soldiers right wrist is gone.
Hell i'd probably be looting too if i was being shot at everyday.
Also the Reichstag watch business is no rumor, here is the original print. In the edited version more smoke is added and the watch on the soldiers right wrist is gone.
Hell i'd probably be looting too if i was being shot at everyday.
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Most of the German lads on the frontlines weren't in their mid-40's
Also the Reichstag watch business is no rumor, here is the original print. In the edited version more smoke is added and the watch on the soldiers right wrist is gone.
Hell i'd probably be looting too if i was being shot at everyday.
Maybe they were obsessive about the time?
agreed that the pressure thing is pretty ridiculous. But if that actually was believed incorrectly back then, that could have been the reason some guys didn't wear straps.
Also, I've heard but can't confirm that (at least US) soldiers didn't wear chinstraps for fear of being sneaked up on- one can pull back the visor of a strapped helmet from behind, exposing the neck to a knife attack. an unstrapped helmet would just be pulled off
Large shrapnel hole.
It's only proven use was against 9mm rounds at very long distances and protection from blasts and debris in urban combat. It was meant to be a bullet-proof vest, and did a poor job doing so.
I don't mean to be rude, but starting arguments based on an assumption isn't helpful to the discussion.
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Lets be honest though, a glancing hit could conceivably be deflected by one of those plates, or a helmet for that matter. Not all impacts are at 90 degrees to the target. Additionally a bit of steel that lost some energy going through the plate might well fail to go through your rib, or skull in the case of a helmet. Just throwing that out there.
Well, after some thinking (yep. can do that) i must agree. That's pretty stupid idea. Still, what you've written about US troops seems pretty reasonable.
They didn't primarily put bread in the breadbag, you know.
the Breadbag is incredible practical to have stuff in.
A screwdriver, sewing stuff, some chocolate, a drinking cup, ebits burner, can opener and lots of other neat little things =)
Speaking of experience.. It is impossible to move quietly in the german kit :3 Toss in a box of MG ammo and you are sounding like Stomp playing. (90s band making music with garbage lids) bootstuds slip on hard surfaces (running on asphalt and cobblestone is just.. suicide, you just slide around) gasmaskcan and water can bang together.. If they should make RO realistic the sound of rushing germans should be "rattlerattlerattlerattle".
The most critical factor in the Germans keeping the jackboot with it's nails was because of a critical lack of rubber in Germany. All of the rubber the Germans had went towards things like wheels etc. They simply couldn't afford to change the boots out to have a more modern heel.
Also remember that the German jackboot was an 1800's footwear, quite an old design, but was retained because it was very durable, didn't utilize rubber and of course iconic to the image of a German soldier.
Also remember that the German jackboot was an 1800's footwear, quite an old design, but was retained because it was very durable, didn't utilize rubber and of course iconic to the image of a German soldier.
For the record, there are hobnails in the low boots too. They're incredibly comfortable (honestly I hike in them on occasion), but they're just as loud as the jackboots.
It's not just lack of rubber, it's increases potential lifespan of a shoe\boot and being cheaper in some ways when you can just replace hobnails and heel several times before you need to replace the actual sole\get a new boot. Try doing the same with a rubber shoe. Ask a local cobbler if you want even more insight about it.
(Obviously rubber is a better base for a sole but we'll ignore that stuff for now.)
Not if you're planning to keep them on your feet during cold temperatures for extended period of times or having to wear the extended period of time while engaging in movement you would expect in a firefight. Then it becomes obvious how they tend to be rough for heels and kneels while making sure your feet are potentially more cold or "worn out" unless you resort to footrag-sock\doublerag\doublesock combination, which is only practical during winter. There's a reason soldiers pried them off on their own at times despite technically damaging army property.
Good information on the German boots guys, cheers.
Kind of makes me wonder, if it real life, gamers that are obsessed with playing as the Germans, whether they would indeed want to be a German knowing they literally can't move without making too much noise, and are actually restricted in movement to surfaces so that you won't fall over whilst running. Thinking about it, I woulod take the British Battledress and trimmings anyday over the German kit.
Sturm
Kind of makes me wonder, if it real life, gamers that are obsessed with playing as the Germans, whether they would indeed want to be a German knowing they literally can't move without making too much noise, and are actually restricted in movement to surfaces so that you won't fall over whilst running. Thinking about it, I woulod take the British Battledress and trimmings anyday over the German kit.
Sturm
Well you'd be surprised, you get used to walking on hard surfaces in hobnails. The trick is to just walk normally, your first instinct would probably be to try and walk gently but you'll slip if you do it that way. In my limited experience anyhow.
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but I'd love to be able to clinch a cigarette between my grizzled veterans teeth now and then.
(just think that would be so typical for some senoir NCO)
Being able to steal tobacco off of the enemy dead would be cool too!
(just think that would be so typical for some senoir NCO)
Being able to steal tobacco off of the enemy dead would be cool too!
Speaking of experience it is perfectly possible. You have to know how to attach fieldgear together. One can write, maybe not book, but article about ways of doing it. I'd say, knowing the ways of attaching fieldgear, so it would not make any noise, was a must in Heer and WSS. In my reenactment group it's a must.
Another thing is, when you go for a patrol or some kind of mission done by squads in size of Trupp or Gruppe you are equipped in "combat mode" - no need to take canteen, Zeltbahn, sometimes you don't need a shovel or gas mask can. Of course it's hard to not make rattle when you take your part in full assault or strategic advance and you have to carry all your personal fieldgear, MG ammo boxes and belts, spare barrels, granades, Panzerfausts, Schiessbechers with grenades, mines etc. etc. But In that case you dont have to keep such low profile.