What do you guys think about raged zeds after zed count is low?
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It's...ok , you can get around it if you want to look for ammo or guns or to just run to the trader because you're like 200m away by picking which zed to save for last, and it does seem that the scrake is a little slower so you can still sprint from it and not die immediately. It makes public games difficult on Suicidal or HOE because people do not cooperate all the time. Less teamwork is needed on Hard and Normal, you can take a scrake no problem. With the higher difficulties you will get 2-3 scrakes in a row one after another sometimes or a scrake and a fleshpound. All the while there is a crapton of trash flooding in and you and your team has to run and cannot immediately take a big zed. There are aspects that can be frustrating but it is a good thing that this will lead us to try to avoid the scrake conga line because that was that was frustrating at times too.
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It's allright in my books. Even though it ****s hard on you when you happen to leave Scrakes and FP's last.
I had to run away from 2 enraged Fleshpounds and a Scrake. Got the Pounds but got Scrake'd.
The only gripe I have is that the Zeds went to ballet and learned it too thoroughly, now I can't even run past one without it nearly murdering my ***.
I kinda wish that they'd still be relative slowpokes, but would instead have a "Patriarch Lumberjack" attack for those times they just can't get a hold on those pesky people near them.
I had to run away from 2 enraged Fleshpounds and a Scrake. Got the Pounds but got Scrake'd.
The only gripe I have is that the Zeds went to ballet and learned it too thoroughly, now I can't even run past one without it nearly murdering my ***.
I kinda wish that they'd still be relative slowpokes, but would instead have a "Patriarch Lumberjack" attack for those times they just can't get a hold on those pesky people near them.
Yeah that was my initial reaction after reading the changelog and the some of the posts on here. They went overboard with all four things: end wave auto-rage, nerfed ammo, nerfed pickups and esp. the SC terminator auto-targetting [tm].
Sure Id like to see the scrakes have some chance of hitting anyone close-up but auto-hitting players (if thats whats happening) when they try to dodge is just as bad as players auto-dodging scrake attacks.
At first I didn't care, just gets them to me faster. Nothing big. Until scrakes and fps started appearing at the end when it's below the magic number and they're raging and you don't have time to setup for them.
Also with the ammo the way it is now, having more time at the end to hunt some of those rare ammo boxes would be nice.
Also with the ammo the way it is now, having more time at the end to hunt some of those rare ammo boxes would be nice.
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I'll be honest I came across the last 3 being scrakes today, on outpost. Only 1 player was alive at this point, a firebug with a caulk gun. Didn't end well, I can never see it ending well when there's one guy left, that's total reliance on luck/perk & weapons. Who the last man standing is essentially. Even then outcome is grim!
It'd be more reasonable if it was only one or two last scrake or fp rages at once.
I disagree that the instant turn isn't necessarily too much. A walking scrake is slow and if a player is walking right past it then I don't have much sympathy for them getting damaged. I haven't played a ton of the update but as long as the player doesn't get injured and (poorly designed to be sentenced to death from 30 damage), I've really liked having to run away from raged scrakes and hit them between attacks to deal with them. Otherwise, there's no reason to get really get close to a scrake unless the player gets sandwiched by boundary boxes.
Agree, and I think the zeds left should also do a scream when it gets to 5, kinda like the scrake and FP spawn scream (which could be reused for this if there's scrakes or fps left).
After losing yet another game because of this, seems like there's ALWAYS one (or more) scrakes left - sometimes a FP, I don't like it. What's the purpose of it? To make it more of a challenge? Aren't the other changes enough? To prevent conga lines of scrakes and fps?
Seems most of the people like it, so I imagine it'll be a permanent feature. I'll get use to it and deal with it. But I would like to know the reasoning behind it.
Seems most of the people like it, so I imagine it'll be a permanent feature. I'll get use to it and deal with it. But I would like to know the reasoning behind it.
It's so you don't waste time dancing around FPs/scrakes and kill them as they show up. Now you can't avoid them and leave them to wander about until you're ready.
Ok. Good reason. But there are situations that happen where you don't intentionally leave them for last. For example...
Demo. At 10 zeds left, I run around to see what's left. There's a scrake but I can't take him out in the our current positions. So I keep moving around to get into a position to do so. In that process I kill a few because I have too. So now the count's 6-7 zeds. Ok I'm in a good spot where I can hit him with 1-2 sticks and 1-2 rounds. But a gorefast comes up behind me, so now I hit the key for my pistol, ooops the hx comes out instead, fire because he's kicking my butt, kill him and the stalker that was with him. Now the counts down, the scrake is raging. I was able to kill it ( contact sticks
and 1 rpg ) and survived but it's just an example of no matter how careful you are, you're not always going to have all the scrakes and fps killed before the rage. Or be in a position to take them on.Another example was with a fp and scrake left. I got trapped in a hallway by a husk (with no armor left), no chance to get around it so I had to kill it. And promptly died. Raging fp.
So I think what it's trying to do is good, but it's got some draw backs which I don't think are good.
Like I said, I'll keep trying different tactics and strategies and deal with it.
Ok. Good reason. But there are situations that happen where you don't intentionally leave them for last. For example...
Demo. At 10 zeds left, I run around to see what's left. There's a scrake but I can't take him out in the our current positions. So I keep moving around to get into a position to do so. In that process I kill a few because I have too. So now the count's 6-7 zeds. Ok I'm in a good spot where I can hit him with 1-2 sticks and 1-2 rounds. But a gorefast comes up behind me, so now I hit the key for my pistol, ooops the hx comes out instead, fire because he's kicking my butt, kill him and the stalker that was with him. Now the counts down, the scrake is raging. I was able to kill it ( contact sticks
Another example was with a fp and scrake left. I got trapped in a hallway by a husk (with no armor left), no chance to get around it so I had to kill it. And promptly died. Raging fp.
So I think what it's trying to do is good, but it's got some draw backs which I don't think are good.
Like I said, I'll keep trying different tactics and strategies and deal with it.
You're right it does need some tweaking. I do actually like it, but sometimes the stupid FP or scrake-train hasn't actually shown itself for me! It can be a total surprise to see them charging round a corner. Perma-raged fleshpounds is also crazy, I think he should rage until he hits twice or 3 times for that. Layer damage would cause the rest!