Were have all the Gurus and Commanders gone??

[r5cya]

are you kidding? Who is going to play at night?

lots of people do. It's not just about you and when you're online.
where are you located anyway?

ON TOPIC, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL TAKING COMMANDER OR SQUAD LEADER. IF SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE THE JOB I'M DOING, I OFFER TO LET THEM FEEL FREE TO TAKE THE JOB AT MAP CHANGE OR BETWEEN ROUNDS. USUALLY THE CHANGE THIER MIND AND GO BACK TO KILLING. sorry for caps.

 

[eM*]

Im here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland

GM+1, my day is someone else night, but.. I mostly encounter what he wrote about, during the later hours. Playing during the day is the most comfortable, and enjoyable (for me). Once there was a dude on the server, who was talking (minutes..) about his penis, sex, girls etc.

 

[Cpt-Praxius]

70% games i play in i am surrounded by people playing death match.More than 50% of time i get less than 10 kills and still finish in top 5 and i just got the game.Lots of experienced players just don't play commander and just lone wolf it .New players need some experience to push them forward but it rarely happens .

I really think the game would benefit from the more experienced players getting in the commander role and given orders out etc ,is that not the idea of it ?? There are only say five are six full servers at night so choice is limited , So were are all these people who write in the forums and give advice ?? Because i know for sure 70% of them are not in game trying to organise a team with there knowledge ?

As an experienced, old vet with vast knowledge of the universe.... I have responsibilities such as work, wife, family, etc.... so I'm not on all that much.

And while I'm a level 90 honour guy with Hero status as Commander, I've been focusing on other classes for a while as I've played the last half year playing pretty much nothing buy commander, so I figured I'd let other's give it a go.

Having Experienced Commanders only goes so far with helping the overall game..... other players actually have to listen to the Commander/Squad Leaders and work as a Team... one guy doesn't normally make all the difference when it comes to your team working together.

And I don't normally use the mic any more, mainly because my computer is in the living room, so yaking on about what's going on in the game is distracting to others (so I type instead) and I usually have to keep my ears open for my son when he wakes up or whatever.

 

[MeFirst]

Exactly a player who is a good commander will not win the battle for you. He is pretty much one player who has a few support options for the team but in the end it is the entire team who must get the job done.

I usually play commander when it is acaible but like other people lately I am busy with personal things and hardly find time to play RO2.

 

[stern]

well im not playing TL for along time, not untill ****s who take the supporting roles (SLs) learn their fukcing roles.. i play as SL and if asked by the TL ill mark arty, ill also mark it with out being asked because thats my role and i know it helps the team win..

yet more an more often SLs dont play their role, again 7 sls not 1 would give arty loc... and its not as if they were retarded players one of them was the highest scorer! still no loc!! its being to piss me teh **** off. i take the role to help the team win.. yet no one will help me help the team.. **** the team!

yes sorry for the ant, but its begining to get more and more like this!

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

The past few months I started playing SL most of the time myself just because of the lack of players taking that role. Seems really odd, guess players aren't taking it for the weapons like you imagine they might.

On top of that, I would mark artillery and call for it and find out no one has taken the TL role!

Just puzzles me that so few of the players are taking leadership roles these days when in the past the positions were always full.

 

[Cwivey]

I've noticed it too, people are taking Riflemen in classic over the Squad Leader, even though they have pistols and smoke! Part of the stigma around the commander is that people feel they must always have an experienced guy in there, rather than a new guy willing to learn. Doesn't always happen, but on the 64 player servers, it seems much more evident and less forgiving. A number are afraid of geting shouted at / losing the match / geting kicked if they do something wrong, at least, thats what somone told me when I asked one guy today, o' course, our team molded him into an artillery launching machine by the end of the match and we won! So good stuff all around for that match.

If I don't see at least one SL in the game, I take it and start popping smoke an' spawning players on the frontlines.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Well, he's right. There can be some real jerks out there-- and outright disrespectful for no reason.

Maybe a better term is 'dumping'. Somebody is angry about their life, so they dump their bullsh*t onto you.

Now, if someone is a jerk to me, I'm gonna be an assh*le right back to them. I don't have any hesitation treating somebody how they wanna be treated.

Exactly - substitute your favorite synonym for this type of internet personality

 

[Cpt-Praxius]

I've noticed it too, people are taking Riflemen in classic over the Squad Leader, even though they have pistols and smoke! Part of the stigma around the commander is that people feel they must always have an experienced guy in there, rather than a new guy willing to learn. Doesn't always happen, but on the 64 player servers, it seems much more evident and less forgiving. A number are afraid of geting shouted at / losing the match / geting kicked if they do something wrong, at least, thats what somone told me when I asked one guy today, o' course, our team molded him into an artillery launching machine by the end of the match and we won! So good stuff all around for that match.

If I don't see at least one SL in the game, I take it and start popping smoke an' spawning players on the frontlines.

I think another deterrent is other players.... a few months back I was playing Spartanovka as German Commander and attacked the gully with my team, popping my smoke and getting into the cap zone, when a couple of clowns started ragging on me for being a crappy Commander for not sticking by the radio to use recon and use arty.

I of course told them where to shove it and explained why I was doing what I was doing, which was to help add pressure in capping the gully and then the church with my additional capping power. When I got to the church, I pulled up the recon, informed my team the recon was active and then I set some arty past the next cap to slow down the Russians..... I then restocked, popped more smoke and headed off to the next cap as the arty flung little Russians into the air as I force spawned when a lot of players were waiting and had to wait for more than 6 seconds.

Within about 5-10 minutes of total gameplay in the match, we just rolled over the Russians and won with ease..... which by that time I seemed to be everybody's friend, including the guys who were giving me a hard time at the start who didn't think I knew what I was doing.... they seemed to love the show I put on with my couple of arty strikes and how I used my additional smoke grenades to help us hit the final cap.

I got no apologies for the crap I was given at the start of course.... but that's what new players usually end up having to deal with when they pick SL or TL.... if other players feel they're not doing something right for 5 seconds, they get trashed on..... but if they're doing a good job, nobody says anything.

 

[MeFirst]

Also dont forget it is summer. I often find myself do other things than playing video games.

 

[Ritterkreuz]

I don't fully understand the commander system (I only played as commander twice).

So If I mark a pointer on a target as a squad leader, the mark appears on the radio set for the commander?

This confuses me, as there was often SL1 SL2 SL3, etc. marks all over the artillery map, and I didn't know which one to click. The mark could be made in a nonsense location, for better or worse.

Also, I find myself using artillery rather than mortars and rockets.

 

[Ritterkreuz]

I play squad leader and rifleman the most, and I attack the objective. I always use smoke to cover my and their approach. However, I never mark artillery targets (always forget, or believe that the commander would probably ignore me).

Other than that, I enjoy the fact that I get to use a semi-auto rifle and have players respawn around me. It increases my life expectancy.

The experience of playing SL so many times has pretty much confirmed to me the fact that if SL's carried 3 or 4 smokes (like they would in reality), this class would be three times as potent.

One smoke is simply not enough (in lieu of resupply).

I can understand why they limit the smokes, as for balance issues. If every SL and TL carried four smokes, the whole map would be in a fog and attackers could infiltrate a lot more easily.

 

[ShadowPuppet]

i play commander most of the time and I'm mostly found hoaring kills...


HOWEVER someone asked me to fire arty the other day and seemed to be interested in actually playing the game.... GREAT..

if you actually want to play the game, shout it out, it's just a lack of enthusiasm because 99% of the time everyone ignores the commander and I have to make my own arty marks.

 

[DeadVDr.Inks]

Well in my experience as commander(which i don't get to play often because i always join servers last), it is often hard to get a response at all out of your team, but as soon as one sql marks a target for me, and i thank him, people seem to queue to share observations or request orders. it really is fulfilling to say "arty is falling behind G, so we take the right shore first" in bridges, then see the little blue dots move over there!

I am sometimes too shy to use VoIP, but it tends to help when i have had a few ;b

 

[Tig Ol Bitties]

Hey All,

I'm a level 84 in this game with 400+ hours of gameplay but I never take the Commander position for one reason. You simply aren't given any way to learn how to do it properly.

If you jump into the role and aren't already an expert, you will be berated by long time TLs and others. I hear the berating and arguing on the mics from experienced TLs but it still begs the question...how can you learn to be Commander if you other players won't let you learn?!

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Hey All,

I'm a level 84 in this game with 400+ hours of gameplay but I never take the Commander position for one reason. You simply aren't given any way to learn how to do it properly.

If you jump into the role and aren't already an expert, you will be berated by long time TLs and others. I hear the berating and arguing on the mics from experienced TLs but it still begs the question...how can you learn to be Commander if you other players won't let you learn?!

Well, I guess you can work your way up after taking the Squad Leader position. That's what I've been doing the past few months.

I have only taken the Commander postion when no one else has, well, because we really needed one just for the sake of arty and all. I hadn't done too bad, no one has complained yet and I always let it be know that if someone wanted that postion, I would bow out to a lower one. No one ever asked to take over...

 

[Cwivey]

Remember, you can guide, but not lead! You're there to give useful artillery, smoke and battle information, and thats really all people expect. Even if you think no-one cares, just type out tank locations, grouping of enemies etc. If team-mates pay attention then Woot, else, don't give a crap and play like an Assault Trooper with smoke grenades. :x

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Remember, you can guide, but not lead! You're there to give useful artillery, smoke and battle information, and thats really all people expect. Even if you think no-one cares, just type out tank locations, grouping of enemies etc. If team-mates pay attention then Woot, else, don't give a crap and play like an Assault Trooper with smoke grenades. :x

True. There are always a few who are there to play as a team and will try to work with you. You might not always see them, or notice them but they are there. If you are lucky, there are more than a few

 

[Twrecks]

When ever I play as a Russian SL, I get picked off by German snipers, must be the hat

One thing to remember, playing either side, is to acknowlege commands. Lets your commander (SL/TL) that you are playing as a team. Then when you move up through the ranks, use the command widgit + mic. IMO, if you don't have a mic, get one, otherwise stay a grunt.

 

[Cwivey]

IMO, if you don't have a mic, get one, otherwise stay a grunt.

Nevvarrr!!!!! I've guided many a team to victory without a microphone. :x