Were have all the Gurus and Commanders gone??

[specta3]

Well two weeks in to the game and i got no complaints about the game its self its great But with out doubt campers and lack of command and communication kill the team play in this game.

70% games i play in i am surrounded by people playing death match.More than 50% of time i get less than 10 kills and still finish in top 5 and i just got the game.Lots of experienced players just don't play commander and just lone wolf it .New players need some experience to push them forward but it rarely happens .

I really think the game would benefit from the more experienced players getting in the commander role and given orders out etc ,is that not the idea of it ?? There are only say five are six full servers at night so choice is limited , So were are all these people who write in the forums and give advice ?? Because i know for sure 70% of them are not in game trying to organise a team with there knowledge ?

Its just way to unbalanced at the moment and people dont communicate..i just want to send half of these numptys to the gulags are have them shot at dawn ))) Because your peeing against the wind when your playing to win, in a team that has no focus are objectives .And it will turn a number of people away from this game. Because it just about the most frustrateing experiance there is in MP when your in a team of headless chickens with no command.

So can we not get all these forum gurus online and commanding and helping the new players and give some structure and tactics to the games ? It just seems one sided in a numer of servers at the moment )

It would make the game so much better for all ))) And i am sure it would help boost the online community ) Are they could be done with it and just make a team death match mode )) Community needs to Find ways to get more people to communicate in game more ))



p.s Apologise to all those who do play to win and help the team

 

[Tea and Crumpets]

I will always try to play as a Commander or SL, when you get a team/squad that communicates it can win the game. Hell I remember a week ago me and a friend were playing on a 64 player server (I was SL and he was Engineer) and with a bit of teamwork we were unstoppable!
Its when this happens that the game really shines.

 

[NikolaiLev]

I don't like shouldering the responsibility because people rarely appreciate it. It's a thankless job. I mean, there it is - it's a job. Generally I'd rather just dink around as a machine gunner or silent SL.

Or maybe people just hate the sound of my voice, because me giving orders rarely seems to result in anything positive happening. It's nice when other people do it, though. But it takes a certain kind of personality. And charisma, to boot.

 

[Unterscharfuhrer]

Campers? There are no campers in "realistic" tactical shooters like ro, or do you think camping was forbidden in ww2 ?

 

[Mike_Nomad]

Where have they all gone??


To get more smoke grenades!!

 

[specta3]

I don't like shouldering the responsibility because people rarely appreciate it. It's a thankless job. I mean, there it is - it's a job. Generally I'd rather just dink around as a machine gunner or silent SL.

Or maybe people just hate the sound of my voice, because me giving orders rarely seems to result in anything positive happening. It's nice when other people do it, though. But it takes a certain kind of personality. And charisma, to boot.

,That made me laugh , I understand what your saying but anyone is better than no one ?.Yes its a thankless role and i can imagine it to be a bit of a mine field for some players.I would get banned from most servers in a day are two playing as a commander. I know my limitations

I think any one who is calm and polite is good for the job in my books ,Its odd some games you dont hear any one talk but when the lives run out and people are watching others run down the clock .Then every one finds there voice )) its funny how that works .Maybe just lots of players out there just need some polite commander to communicate with them.

As tea and crumpets said a team with a commander who talks wins most games.And it makes for a much better game i think )

And when i say campers i fully understand that there are other roles in the game support anti tank snipeing etc i know the word annoys some experianced players ,But that still leaves a good number of players who should be focused on the cap zones .And as you know it boils down to simple maths in the end , more people on the cap control the cap .

And yes there are times its best to camp and dig in ,Just be nice to have a commander more often, who knows how to play and how to win and give instructions as to when to attack and defend etc , Because i get stuck in teams where all i hear is fall back are who the ???? is useing smoke in my line of sight .And we seem to lose every time with the plan of not fighting to defend a cap ) And it makes it worse when you know the other team is talking and has a commander ,

Must be some commanders out their ,only take 8 are 10 Commanders playing in the evening and spread across the busy servers, make it a better game i think for us new players )) I know there are a few on uk realsim server but they stick together and if your on the other team its a struggle).And i like to stay this side of the atlantic for my ping)

 

[schepp himself]

I don't shy away from playing as Commander and Squad Leader. I don't know if I'm that good at it, but at least decent. And I have a mic.

I agree with your OP that this game only shines when a team is communicating with each other. Games in which neither the Commander nor the Squadleaders talk with each other or the team are insanely boring imo. So I try to babble away, mostly game relating though...

Greets
Schepp himself

 

[Johnny Utah]

I always take CMDR if its a tough map and/or it seems like our team has been struggling bc of lack of coordination not lack of talent - but, like today on apartments, sometimes ppl dont listen

 

[stern]

Im almost always squad leader, on the few occasions im not ill be team leader.

But im seeing very little proper play from other sls (or tls who use their sl's((not to brag but i think i do a very good as a SL, an its very annoying when a tl ignores your advice and does his own thing and its a waste of what ever, like arty on cap point A once its already capped and your fighting for B or C!))

The other night i was playing as tl with 7 sls available, for the first round not one marked arty for me, and the radio was far from the front line, which meant i spent more time running to spot then running back to the radio than being able to help really. And in the second round i had to talk to the sls like they were children to get any marks, i think in the end i said "do sls have binos?" "yes" came the reply, from an sl "then ****ing use them and mark arty where you need it!" i said. That then got me 3 marks form 3 different sls. Which is a shame i had to say that to get them to play their role!

However when you find squad members or sls or tls who want to work together, i dont have a mic so all my stuff is typed up, not the best but i dont like using voip. But even that way can still result in decent teamplay, even if its just locking down a hallway or so.

I think at the moment people (depending on the game type) arent to bothered with the team play aspect and just want to shoot each other, but in time they will begin too or will leave, and we'll be left with those who do. and if its really bothering you step up into those roles, and try yourself, no one minds a "new" player taking the role (i guess some people do but we dont like them) aslong as your willing to play your role and if comms is bad, even a rifleman can say what needs doing and people will follow you or at least work with you.

Hopefully you'll find a server or 2 where teamplay is more or less the order of the day for the majority of players, and if you do keep going there.

Sorry for the ramble...

 

[specta3]

Good stuff , keep it up and keep talking are typeing )))

I try to follow the below when playing and talking ,think allot of new players are afraid of the role))) Afraid they will drop a arty on the whole team etc ))

1, Be polite , Dont be afraid to use your mic,

2, Respect other people ideas on how to approach a objective etc, Just way to many people get aggressive because they disagree with another persons view of the battle, Its the fog of war and heat of battle we all have are own ideas and views .

3. Mute people who are rude and aggressive and if you dont want to hear them ,most of the time ,most people will be thinking the same as you , but they dont want to get involved .

4. Understand that lots of players dont speak English as there mother tongue.

I am from England your from America he is from France and the other guy is from Holland ,Germany etc .Who gives a ???? we are all sitting on a rock spining around in space . Just get on with it and play the game you enjoy , its the same for us all

5.Listen to experienced players , But you dont have to agree with them but lots of times they are correct, but a few of them are just out for there K/D ratio.

6.Some one tests your Patience, you about to explode on them , Take a few deep breaths and try to rise above it and be constructive in your comments on how they can improve .Because there are few kids out ther playing way past there bed time and they like to try and shoot people down))

Have to say was much better over Friday an Sat most games had one are two people in using mic and commanding etc , Made the game so much better) More players who want to use there mic, check the map and command , Makes for a much better experience for new players and boost numbers))

Because the one time this game sucks it when no one talks and your getting owned .Dont mind getting a sound thrashing as long as a few of use are trying and talking , makes for fun

Know this is old rope to most people on here , But its therapeutic for me to come on here and spread my dribble and my perceived pearls of wisdom ))) Saving me on a fortune on appointments ))))

 

[Sensemann]

Pretty much given up on playing TL. It's not worth the effort to lead an attack (especially on Spartanovka) when 30 seconds into the game, 2 guys are calling you an idiot because there is no artillery. Another one repeats that you should shut up because he is discussing weekend plans with his friend who happens to be on the same server. A fourth player decided to play his collection of WW 2 songs as background music. For the immersion of course. While all that gives you a couple of seconds in between, you realize that your warning of "Artillery in E 7" has been either not heard or ignored, but surely, the teamkill will lead into the next rant of a player who thinks that he is the true TL.

On the next map then, playing another role. Seeing the TL totally failing is surprising has he just been the guy with the best advices before. Smiling however, since it's now his turn to get over the voice chat.

Meanwhile, I switched to teamspeak...

 

[specta3]

Pretty much given up on playing TL. It's not worth the effort to lead an attack (especially on Spartanovka) when 30 seconds into the game, 2 guys are calling you an idiot because there is no artillery. Another one repeats that you should shut up because he is discussing weekend plans with his friend who happens to be on the same server. A fourth player decided to play his collection of WW 2 songs as background music. For the immersion of course. While all that gives you a couple of seconds in between, you realize that your warning of "Artillery in E 7" has been either not heard or ignored, but surely, the teamkill will lead into the next rant of a player who thinks that he is the true TL.

On the next map then, playing another role. Seeing the TL totally failing is surprising has he just been the guy with the best advices before. Smiling however, since it's now his turn to get over the voice chat.

Meanwhile, I switched to teamspeak...

Feel your pain on that one i have been on both sides of that coin .
Think they need a officers mess were all the commanders can go and vent there frustrations ) But dont let them put you off , water off a ducks back )) A team and game with no commander who talks is just half the game it could be)) I am sure lots of them silent heros out there are greatfull for it .

 

[Kowalczyk]

I am surprised you guys even see people occupy the SL/Commander roles, when I am trying to find a smaller server to play on, I would say most time the other roles get filled and there is no Commander and very few SLs.

It doesnt happen much on full 64 player servers, but I think in general most players dont want the responsibility that they have to help the team and not their score directly with kills, and might take abuse for not doing the job 'right' according to other players.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Pretty much given up on playing TL. It's not worth the effort to lead an attack (especially on Spartanovka) when 30 seconds into the game, 2 guys are calling you an idiot because there is no artillery. Another one repeats that you should shut up because he is discussing weekend plans with his friend who happens to be on the same server. A fourth player decided to play his collection of WW 2 songs as background music. For the immersion of course. While all that gives you a couple of seconds in between, you realize that your warning of "Artillery in E 7" has been either not heard or ignored, but surely, the teamkill will lead into the next rant of a player who thinks that he is the true TL.

On the next map then, playing another role. Seeing the TL totally failing is surprising has he just been the guy with the best advices before. Smiling however, since it's now his turn to get over the voice chat.

Meanwhile, I switched to teamspeak...

Fact

 

[PeteAtomic]

Fact

 

[Mike_Nomad]

The choads? lol

Not funny.......

Brill ain't it? Kinda tells you the mindset of the author.

 

[Mormegil]

Campers? There are no campers in "realistic" tactical shooters like ro, or do you think camping was forbidden in ww2 ?

Camping is a fine defensive tactic, especially on attrition based maps.

What's frustrating is being a Soviet on Commissar's house, and seeing half the team trying to be snipers with their unscoped rifles from the A building.

I've gotten so frustrated at times as commander that I've threatened to start executing them (you kill 1 or 2, and that usually does the trick). But the team oddly doesn't seem to appreciate it. Next time, I'll just toss smoke into the room.

 

[AtheistIII]

I've gotten so frustrated at times as commander that I've threatened to start executing them (you kill 1 or 2, and that usually does the trick).

Playing Enemy at the gates, huh?

 

[PeteAtomic]

Not funny.......

Brill ain't it? Kinda tells you the mindset of the author.

Well, he's right. There can be some real jerks out there-- and outright disrespectful for no reason.

Maybe a better term is 'dumping'. Somebody is angry about their life, so they dump their bullsh*t onto you.

Now, if someone is a jerk to me, I'm gonna be an assh*le right back to them. I don't have any hesitation treating somebody how they wanna be treated.

 

[eM*]

There are only say five are six full servers at night so choice is limited , So were are all these people who write in the forums and give advice ?? Because i know for sure 70% of them are not in game trying to organise a team with there knowledge ?

Are you kidding? Who is going to play at night?

Im playing from 7 am to 18 usually. Other than that, its all true.