Veterans, admit it...

[Nanostrike]

Who else is a KF veteran who eats every stock level for breakfast...

Yet, during your first few times playing Foundry, you got absolutely lost and died humiliatingly?

I have. The first two times I played it, I ended up lost and cornered. I got eaten by a Clot! A CLOT! It got worse, too. Worse to the point that it was hilarious. My friends were even taunting me about it for the rest of the day!

I had such hilarious screw ups as not knowing where a stairwell was and getting flanked by sirens via it when I put my back towards it, not knowing where Crawlers/Stalkers drop and getting surrounded when they did, and putting my back to an enemy spawn...which a pair of Fleshpounds spawned out of and killed me.

No amount of AK-spam or Katana-cheesiness could save me from "New map sickness". Step up and admit it here if the same thing has happened to you!

 

[dextronaut]

ive played all the stock maps in their various forms, so when retail came out, i had a really good handle on the maps, except for farm of course, but thats bloody easy.

foundry however is a whole other story.

 

[Boxiii]

Foundry is pretty difficult, but i still think Biotics is more annoying.

 

[Phantomspiker]

It rains zeds on Foundry....

 

[widowmaker]

Foundry is pretty difficult, but i still think Biotics is more annoying.

Are you kidding me? Biotics lab is easy! The long hallways make it a great place to station sharpshooters, support specialists, and even flamers. That T intersection at the spawn is a great place to hold. Sharpshooters can clear the front while everyone else can focus on clearing the other 2 sides. When the middle gets heavy, everyone can focus fire on the middle and easily push it back.

 

[HunnyPot]

I wouldn't consider myself a Vet persay...but yes! I was so lost when I played Foundry the first couple times not knowing that the zeds drop on top of you
in the middle section or anything that isn't covered if you're on the lower levels. Luckily, I was able to run away and regroup...haha!

 

[Gunthak]

I find the 3rd floor, along the railing behind the elevator shaft (behind the 'Level 3' yellow sign) is very sustainable, high pace killing until Scrake waves. Abandon from that point on.

Get down to L2 -- the first floor above ground. Hold up at the L-shape corner (the one with the blocked door at the corner) so you're easily picking off stuff coming up the metal stairs on one side of the L, and a very controllable corridor down the other length.

 

[w00tm0ng3r]

Yep I got schooled by paradropping fleshpounds from the 101st airborne. My first game I joined 7 waves in on a long game so I was running around on the bottom floor tagging behind someone else (I couldn't find the trader in time so I had no weapon) when a fleshpound landed on the other guy's head. A couple seconds later while I was looking up to see where it had come from 2 more took a beautiful swan dive off the 3rd floor and landed right next to me

 

[IS-234]

i don't think it as hard it just adds a new play style that we are not used to and we having had the game for a while have certain tactics hardwired into us tactics that may or may not be as effective if not down right fool hardy to try on Foundry, maybe some of the new players with out habits ingrained in there brains will come up with some way to survive para trooping FP's and sckrakes or maybe they already have and we just aren't listening

 

[Steve5513]

So far the tactic i have found best is to simply keep moving around on the first floor with the giant things in the floor and the stairs around the outside. I'm talking about the big room just outside the spawn.

 

[Sakujo]

First time i played this map (normal, just to look how the map is) i thought:
"Omg, where to go? Not one good point for closing in"(like the U-formed room at biolabs with the trader in it)

After that, i played it with two friends, and we found a more or not good place to stay. Its on that pipes in the forge, and most spec

 

[Monolithos]

There are a few places where you will not get zombies falling in from the sky or climbing up from under you. They all have zombies from more than one direction though (or require that you have a designated welder).

The only spot where you only get zombies from one direction is the control room - but it is a bit small - with no real room to backpaddle (but in an emergency you can jump out through the window). dont like to hang out there.

 

[Riut]

Nah I actually took to Foundry pretty quickly, saw that enemies couldn't spawn behind you if camped spawn, had an easy time.

 

[Oi!Oi!Oi!]

Foundry is so large compared to the other indoor maps, it's not too hard to stay on the move and out of trouble.

 

[-[SiN]-bswearer]

yeah didn't really have trouble with foundary on hard.....the team i was with beat it the first time i played it and i only died one time in wave 8 i think....stupid sirens

it's still frustrating though on any stock map playing with bad players who won't listen and want to be selfish......and it's not always new players doing that. the people that worry me more are the mid level players like the level3 commandos, level3 supports etc... that think they are too good to listen to level5s. many new players will actually listen to more experienced players because they want to learn how to play from the best.

 

[Riut]

yeah didn't really have trouble with foundary on hard.....the team i was with beat it the first time i played it and i only died one time in wave 8 i think....stupid sirens

it's still frustrating though on any stock map playing with bad players who won't listen and want to be selfish......and it's not always new players doing that. the people that worry me more are the mid level players like the level3 commandos, level3 supports etc... that think they are too good to listen to level5s. many new players will actually listen to more experienced players because they want to learn how to play from the best.

>level 5 players
>the best


Hehehehahaha.

 

[d-bags-abound]

Are you kidding me? Biotics lab is easy! The long hallways make it a great place to station sharpshooters, support specialists, and even flamers. That T intersection at the spawn is a great place to hold. Sharpshooters can clear the front while everyone else can focus on clearing the other 2 sides. When the middle gets heavy, everyone can focus fire on the middle and easily push it back.

With or without friendly fire?
Calling something easy without friendly fire on is moot. Engulfing your team in flames, or lobbing grenades at surrounded buddies in order to rescue them is easy. Trying to save a friend when a FP is in his face knowing that a grenade'll probably seriously splash him, an x-bow shot could penetrate and hit him (ditto for DEs & shotties) and that napalm is likely to give him a very serious skin condition, is not easy. Trying to maneuver -- while being attacked and keeping your own self free from FF -- so you can do max damage to the enemy and minimal to the teammate is hard.
Higher difficulty levels attempt to make the game "harder" by the cheapest of mechanics: less money (--> ammo, weapons, armor), faster enemies and stronger ones. Been there, played that. IIR (and I was there) Pong got "harder" by making things go faster.
FF makes it harder by making you think and act like a team. Heck, if our friend the FP is in my face and I'm seeing red I'll yelp "Run Away Everybody" and drop a few grenades to take him with me.
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[Nanostrike]

Got killed by Clots again. Simply because I forgot that they drop down in a few certain spots. I got grabbed and surrounded on Wave 1. Hilarity (And humiliation) ensues.

 

[{Core}Craig]

vets . . . in a game a few months old . . . .

I hope you mean mod vets and not retail vets . . .

also whoever mentioned farm as being unknown, is not a TWI fanboy!!!!!



Although op is correct, this map is confusing but fun when something jumps out at you!

 

[-[SiN]-bswearer]

since the mod didn't have "stock" maps, he is probably referring to 3-4 month old "vets" of the retail game....yeah 4 months really isn't veteran, but compared to players 2 weeks in?