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Well, I guess that makes them an insurgent when they don't leave. Doesn't it?
If they stay and fight, they are deemed hostile, and should be terminated. If America told me to get out of my home because they are coming in, I would get the f*** out.
I don't care about politics, but I wouldn't let anyone throw me out of my home, and therefore, I would defend it. I guess I should be terminated for loving my home too much.
It's this logic that make people resist the American troops more and more.
It's lack of empathy that is the big problem with the American army, that comes not from me, but from NATO-colleagues in the press.
If you were in Fallujah in Operation Phantom Fury and you had that mentality as a native there, you would be an Insurgent, and eliminated by the American military. That's just how it is.
Any country would resist a foreign force. That's nature. No one wanted to be occupied by Britain, but they were anyway. They had to deal with it, and so does the Middle East with America.
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If my country was invaded It doesn't mean I would fight for it, but I would fight for my home if someone wants to throw me out. My life is built around this place, if I work my *** off to have a place for myself to belong, I wont just hand it over to someone else. I'll probably die here, yes, but doesn't mean I deserve it.
Humans are territorial animals, and you can't just label everyone an insurgent just because they refuse to abandon their homes.
What I said have nothing to do with that war in particular, as my opinion on it, is that I despise both parties involved, just as I despise all games with a modern warfare theme.
So Ostmann your logic is to always bend over and learn how to survive with something that is a bit unjust?
Hmmm... So, you are telling us that just because these people happen to live in a major city of a country that has oil/lithium/whatever they should be brainwashed from their first years that they have different rights than others? What about those who couldn't leave their homes, be it an illness of some sort or getting threatened by the opposition? Anyway, here is not the right place to discuss it.
Btw I have a question for anyone who knows, joining the US army and going to a warzone is something random (you get drafted) or you volunteer?
Hmmm... So, you are telling us that just because these people happen to live in a major city of a country that has oil/lithium/whatever they should be brainwashed from their first years that they have different rights than others? What about those who couldn't leave their homes, be it an illness of some sort or getting threatened by the opposition? Anyway, here is not the right place to discuss it.
Btw I have a question for anyone who knows, joining the US army and going to a warzone is something random (you get drafted) or you volunteer?
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In that situation, it is clear that the American Army did not drop leaflets to warn the residents of Fallujah, but rather to give themselves permission to kill everyone indiscriminately and say, when attacked for killing civilians, "But, we dropped leaflets."
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Just want to add that I agree, people should had left their homes cause they knew what was gonna happen (its not like WW2 or Vietnam happened centuries ago and war now is more civilized), but I don't agree as to why this whole conflict had to happen in the first place.
Seems to have fallen upon deaf ears. Time for the lock?
To answer an unrelated question: Serving in the US military is 100% voluntary. You may request or "sign up" for a particular tour but ultimately you go where they send you. (Be that Korea, North Carolina, Afghanistan, or Timbuktu).
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sad thing is that MOH got more coverage in this thread than RO2 did 
so, to reiterate the good news (and point zets was trying to me), TW and RO2 are gaining enough popularity that some writer from the washington post mentioned them in his article alongside a "popular" mainstream game
so, to reiterate the good news (and point zets was trying to me), TW and RO2 are gaining enough popularity that some writer from the washington post mentioned them in his article alongside a "popular" mainstream game
sad thing is that MOH got more coverage in this thread than RO2 did
so, to reiterate the good news (and point zets was trying to me), TW and RO2 are gaining enough popularity that some writer from the washington post mentioned them in his article alongside a "popular" mainstream game
There will be coverage the day they make a German SP campaign against the USA :IS2:
The sad bit is, once you pick up a weapon you're a combatant. Doesn't matter who you are. (In that particular instance at least)
Doesn't mean it's right or that anyone should be absolved of guilt, it's just the way it is.
yup, as unfortunate as that is, it's enevitable
curious to see the responses to RS should there be a single player allowing you to play as the japanese.....yup, as unfortunate as that is, it's enevitable
you could already play as the japanese and germans in games going as far back as allied assault in 1999(probably others)
your comment is misinformed, as are most reactionary remarks against game censorship. no one is ever outraged by playable japanese or germans because the us isn't currently engaged in a war with them, and family members do not still have people fighting that specific war. that is why ww2 and vietnam games get a pass. that is just the most superficial level of their argument.
i think "gamers" or people who are against censorship should at least know what the other side are saying so they don't say stupid things like "next time they'll ban japanese from ww2 games, hyuk hyuk".
imho...
For what its worth you could in the single player campaign of battlefield1942, we have yet to see whether ROHOS will have the real deal as a single player campaign.
As in like multiplayer maps with special pathing and scripting for singleplayer. Or that its more like the multiplayer campaign with bots.
did they give it a backstory? i thought that was only single player by virtue of replacing ppl with bots, and letting you play aas offline.
What a **** are you talking about, if tomorrow North
Korea drops a leaflets warnings to civilians in New York
that they are going to attack,
and day after that Korea nukes whole city in the air.
You are saying that they can prodly say that no civilians
were killed because whole city was full of insurgents.
Did you ever think with your own brains or just trust to
everything what TV says.
There was time when Nazi germany occupyed Europe
and those who fighted back with bombs and strikes
on allied side were called as a partisans or
commandos. And their actions were called brave, and
german counter actions were called as a war crimes
Best of those partisans or commandos get medals and
fame.
How ever after Nazis were destroyed and Allied forces
started to occupy countries around the world, those
who fighted sameway on occupyed countries are
called terrorist (not partisans or commandos),
and their actions are called cowardly and counter actions
made by Allied forces agains them are called legal
counter actions.
Even that surrounding a city and blowing everything
inside in the air sounds exactly same what Nazis
did to Villages which got some partisan action.
And to underlineing my point little bit more i think
allkind of military action against unarmed person
with leaflets, parking ticets or without any papers
is illegal and wrong, in ww2, before it and nowadays.
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