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Hans Ludwig

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@jerothb: I don't have a problem updating a post when somebody corrects me; there's no need to be a jerk about it. Please note the revision above. (I didn't address CoD: Modern Warfare because that doesn't feature a real-world terrorist group.)
Since you asked, I spent about an hour writing the post. The incorrect sentence was one of the last I added, which is usually when errors creep into stories.
- RP


Why is this guy getting so angry? Did he really thing he was going to get a positive response from gamers?
 
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Reise

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Why is it that most journalists seem to be complete idiots and take assumptions and misinformation and turn it into alarmist crap all the time now?

You know these people are just seizing the opportunity to jump on another bandwagon and spread around more hatred and misunderstanding of dem dere violant veedeo games.

It just blows my mind that there are people who are intelligent enough to write for large reporting firms like The Washington Post, but are stupid enough to just regurgitate such ignorant crap.
 

Galslacht

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You need to get your facts straight. Read No True Glory by Bing West. There was not an innocent civilian in Fallujah during the siege.
Read this http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/14/iraq.iraq3 , many other sources that state the same.

Not to mention the civilian casualties that were made in Fallujah during Gulf War 1.

But I guess your source is 100% the truth, and mine is not, so let the retard-internetz-battle commence! ;)

Also, many people still suffer from light-uranium-armed ammunition that was used. Misformed childs are still being born. And not only in Fallujah, all over Iraq. Creating more legit hatred against the USA. Good job! Making games out of it really is a gain for humanity.

You dont make a game about the warsaw-uprising, and you do not make a game about fallujah. Yes, they are similar in many aspects in the eyes of muslims.
It's immoral to commercialize it.

But OT, the journalist in the article used 'ROOST' for figurative reasons. It does not really matter for TWI itself I suppose. It's more of unsolicited but desirable marketing imho.
 

reyalpOR

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You dont make a game about the warsaw-uprising, and you do not make a game about fallujah...It's immoral to commercialize it.

Who says? When did morality stop artists portraying a concept? And what makes either of those (Warsaw/Fallujah) any more off-limits than anything that has ever come before?
 

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Moyako

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Fine. There were no noncombatants in Fallujah during the siege.

Well, they were defending themselves from a foreign force invading their country (something that anyone in the world would do). I fail to see why is that bad... and no one is trolling America (which is a continent, not a country). It's not a political discussion, is a simple fact :p
 

Tomcat_ha

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they should remove the americans and british because of all the people they killed in afganistan as well then.

make it blob vs blob with weapons found irl
 

Alexander Ostmann

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You need to get your facts straight. Read No True Glory by Bing West. There was not an innocent civilian in Fallujah during the siege.
I was just about to say this.

Fallujah was a large Insurgent stronghold. The US dropped leaflets warning all civilians to leave soon, as the military is coming in. Whoever stayed was an Insurgent, and that's that.
 
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Pig

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Very wise step of EA tbh. Think the reason behind is is simply imbalance in the multiplayer. Many players simply don't want to play as terrorists who kill alot of innocent people so they simple can't enjoy the game and stay away from multiplayer when they can't play the american side.

Some of you guys are refering to the iraq war. thats a different story isn't it because US were facing the iraq army at the beginning and after the "war" the terrorists joined



I wouldn't enjoy it to play a SS guy from the KZ's even if its only a game. Same goes for other people.
 
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Knighted

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It's not really just about politics, the fact is the Taliban isn't the only faction we encounter, and it's difficult to put a specific label on a multi-factional guerrilla force.
 

Moyako

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Some of you guys are refering to the iraq war. thats a different story isn't it because US were facing the iraq army at the beginning and after the "war" the resistance joined

Fixed. And I'm glad they did. no one should accept a foreign soldier's boot steeping their country
 
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Pig

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Fixed. And I'm gald they did. no one should accept a foreign soldier's boot steeping their country

true, what i tried to say is that the taliban is a evil organisation which simple some people don't want to play. the invasion of the iraq was a different story because two sides were fighting each other.

also i believe that most of the "resistance" are terroists because blowing up a market isn't exactly a resistance
 
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HerrPorsche

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Guys when it comes down to it we are playing games. No one is really trying to glorify any of the horrors of war. War is wrong no matter what side you are on. Each person is right in their discussion. We are on these forums because we are interested in the game "Heroes of Stalingrad". Political discussions even though they are important, have a time and place. And I do not think each person is going to be able to change anyone's political views. Even though as we are young we some how believe that they will. The problems that plague us are not new to the world. They have been going on since the beginning of time.
My wife showed me this quote the other day...

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive
treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known
and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the
gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very
halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in
accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he
appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the
soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the

pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer
resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."


Marcus Tullius Cicero
(106-43 B.C.) Roman Statesman, Philosopher and Orator
Attributed. 58 BC, Speech in the Roman Senate



Now if you did not know you would think that it could be spoken about the country we each live in.
These games we play, even though they represent some of the worse times in human history still allow us to see the pointlessness of these events in the end. No matter what country you come from- we are all the same in the end. Each of us wants the same thing in life. So lets get along and realize that no one person can be 100% political correct. If they were they could not leave their house because they would offend someone, sometime with something they did.

Peace....
 

SheepDip

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The US dropped leaflets warning all civilians to leave soon, as the military is coming in.
Yeah cos that works often with people who see you as an aggressor, they'll just up and leave and let you destroy their homes.
Whoever stayed was an Insurgent, and that's that.
Yeah, how dare people stay to try and protect their property from someone they perceive to be their enemy.

Read No True Glory by Bing West. There was not an innocent civilian in Fallujah during the siege.
To expect 100% of the civilian population to have left is completely na
 

dogbadger

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putting aside whether or not it's fair to be ordered out of your home, i don't know how easy it is to just walk out of an insurgent stronghold tbh.

'yeah, you better leave like the enemy say, seeing as your not fighting with us - it may make their job a lot easier but still, we wouldn't want to see you get caught in the crossfire..'
 
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