KF Top ten killing floor players

[Kuebic]

I feel the OP just wants a list of good players to watch and learn from. It really is hard to say best players, as some of the best players no longer play such as GigaMonkey (or so I heard a year ago...)

I can list a few players that post periodic KF videos that's worth watching to learn from.

Scary Ghost
Devante
Sarius
Armored Puppy
Amber Lamps
ToeKneeAy
DasB
SkyWindRushing
DarkFalz
Felix
Natniik

I'm not saying they're the best, but they definitely are experienced and post videos that taught me a lot when I started learning as much as I could about KF.

Edit: made names link to youtube channel

 

[ramndude]

some of the usual suspects here

http://killingfloor-experience.fr/ranking

That's probably the closest you're going to get for "best" Killing Floor players. There is one major thing wrong with this website though - It doesn't include every player out there. I can't find myself but know exactly where I would rest at. Also, it ranks people by in-game statistics, which can be grinded for on lower difficulties or a perk-leveling map.

But for such an easy game as Killing Floor, it's very difficult to measure "skill" as there are several avenues by which people can use to substantiate it such as:

• Teamwork
• Ability to solo
• Ability to kite
• Amount of hours
• Win rate
• Knowledge of combos
• Knowledge of mechanics

I won't try to list off a top ten, as imo there is no such thing for this type of game. It's simply not competitive, it's cooperative.

I will however contribute something more to this thread. I've made a list of a bunch of Killing Floor YouTubers that I often visit for entertainment and/or knowledge of game mechanics and combos.

The List

 

[yoshimomo]

best reply

here we go. a gentleman and a scholar. cheers mate. now, spare some dosh?

 

[Skell]

It really is hard to say best players, as some of the best players no longer play such as GigaMonkey (or so I heard a year ago...)

I played with Giga last week though...

I agree with this your list though, it's pretty accurate!

Kinda off-putting that I play with all of these people listed and hang out in TS/Mumble with them all the time.

 

[naksiloth]

why are you resisting this? i just f*ing named TWO such players who are considered exceptional players, because they are. i should remember several more but atm i can't. that's what i am trying to get help with here - from other long time kf players who have better memories. don't act dense. i don't expect anyone to report themselves.

I didn't see any of them tbh, but I mostly play Euro servers. Also it feels like you're trying to force your opinions down people's throat, asking "why are we resisting to identify them as our masters" is a silly question to begin with. May be I played with deepblu888 once, but that's a vague memory. As for learning from better players guess Kuebic and DasB gave nice answers.

 

[Gregs2k2]

I'd say i'm pretty high up... in the top 10 worst players list.

 

[DasB]

i just f*ing named TWO such players who are considered exceptional players

That's a very good way to ask people for help... If you can't live with different opinions, better don't post in forums.

Again, I don't think that comparing e-peens is a good thing but that's just me.

oh, and i am sure somebody knows of that american player who does have YT videos. he's very good. i remember watching one where he plays santa's workshop (HOE obviously) and talks throughout it, giving tips and talking how he loves to change his loadout and he loves the magnum and desert eagle for their penetration capabilities. (he played as zerker) he also wishes someone entered the game to play with him but nobody does. well someone did eventually, but left before the next wave. i should have bookmarked his page. though i did lose my bookmarks anyway a while back. someone here will know for sure.

It was Sarius, you are talking about this video and you can find his channel here.

 

[|WC|Capt.525]

May be I played with deepblu888 once, but that's a vague memory.

Deep's nothing but a scrub
Sauce: He's a baddie.

But yeah, if you are looking to learn Yoshi, hang around the welding simulator, some pretty good guys can usually be found around there. And watch Sarius, because he explains stuff really well. And those other guys are okay I guess... <3

Deep's actually one of the best Sharps I know of, or was before he became a Doto baddie (he's still 9000x better than me, and I don't think I'm too horrible at the game)

 

[Dr_Killjoy]

I was good team leader in public server who could bring even noobs to victory, and throwed useless players overboard. But it was long time ago, something like 2-3 years before this day. If we are talking about reaction and proper weapon switching and ammo dispencing - SkyWindRushing is the best person I know. But I have never been concerned about seeking high skills in KF everywhere, so I noticed only players on servers where I played.

There is several characteristics of skill
1.Mechanical skill:
Many people supposes that it is real skill and nothing other counts, but it's incorrect; this skill means accuracy, reaction, maybe proper ammo management and weapon switching can be added, but I don't think this things are so binded together

2.Tactic skill:
Proper movement, in-time reloads, proper weapon switching and prioritizing targets and weapons for them)

3.strategy skill
This means planning game for more long perspective then killing group of zeds; includes priority of buying weapons, or if to say more general, proper money spending using priorities for each wave and map/perk, the way player spend ammo for the goal of saving ammo for not got wiped; this type of skill also has very serious part of teamplay - this player can be superior on this current match (adviser or team leader) and need to think strategy for all players (what perks to choose, what weapons and equips for what concrete player is more prioritised and give certain amount of money to more prioritized players for needed equip). Also strategy skill includes decisions what player needs to live and what player needs to die. In some cases, killing harmful player is needed, in some situation saving core player is needed to. So main thing about strategy is prioritizing roles, players, equip and position.

So player with good strategy can be bad tactic, or good tactic who know how zed to kill and how to spend ammo and reload, can have low reaction and accuracy. But player with good brains can compensate his low reaction or accuracy. The most important parameter here is level of teamplay - high mechanic skilled player if don't very good in tactics or strategy, can listen to superior and give advantage to his team. And the same way good tactic can cover other players by the matter he knows how to react in each situation and save their asses when they got confused or just plainly gone to reload. Good strategist can play medic or zerker and have alot of money and decide which player get more money and buy more useful equip, also medic and zerker is good to leading team to correct position, and saving useful players by taking huge zed's focus on himself, or do nothing and watch how useless or harmful player dies from FP or SCR, getting rid of ballast.

I don't want to say that noone can be good at 3 positions, but if you have high level of teamplay, 1 of this types of skill would be enough in case you play with other high-teamplayed people. I don't know if someone can really make correct opinion about someone's skill.

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I won't try to list off a top ten, as imo there is no such thing for this type of game. It's simply not competitive, it's cooperative.

I will however contribute something more to this thread. I've made a list of a bunch of Killing Floor YouTubers that I often visit for entertainment and/or knowledge of game mechanics and combos.

The List

Ok. I will estimate every noob equally to high-skill-teamplay gamer, cos this game has no conception of skill.

 

[okungnyo]

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Ok. I will estimate every noob equally to high-skill-teamplay gamer, cos this game has no conception of skill.

That's not what he was saying.

What he means by Killing Floor "being easy" is that it has a very low skill ceiling, because this is a PvE game in which the zeds always behave the same way.

After learning that, no, you shouldn't shoot that Scrake as a Demolitions, and no, you shouldn't shoot that Fleshpound with your Flamethower, and then learning learn some combos, there's nothing else left. You've pretty much mastered the game.

Compare this to a PvP game, where you're fighting against other real human beings who are always changing, adapting, and unpredictable.

I think that's what he meant.

 

[<NUT> N]

I only want to say, that list is non sense, only for a simple reason, the players from America, like lot of what you said, usually never play in europe server, and visceverse, because the pings, i can't play in a server from usa because my lag is really huge, i dont have the honour of know anyone of that ppl, never see playing karsey, devante, toeknee ... etc. And probably they never see play the good ppl who are in europe, i know really good players, but some only good in solo games or playing whit 6-man team soloing, but as poosh said, KF is a co-op game, i dont like admit that but is, and mostly of ppl only take care about kills and score, so never you will see any good team player, because the fun is have lot of kills, more than the others. Im not a good teammate sometimes I admit, and see lot of ppl same, lot of pl only play for himself, and probably are very good, but that is no the sense of the game. And when the ppl start to only care of kills, is when have all maps achievements done, and only want to got fun, because to got achievements always ask for good players for help. I try to be a good teammate, and mostly of my games do it and try to help everybody, but saw so many times the ppl only want to be the best killer better than a member of a team. So too many things to look to said who is or who is not the best players. PD: I dont consider my self good player, im only are a guy who like play the game, and know good players who think like me, dont care if someone say if is good or bad, only try to enjoy the game and play for fun.

 

[Dr_Killjoy]

That's not what he was saying.

What he means by Killing Floor "being easy" is that it has a very low skill ceiling, because this is a PvE game in which the zeds always behave the same way.

After learning that, no, you shouldn't shoot that Scrake as a Demolitions, and no, you shouldn't shoot that Fleshpound with your Flamethower, and then learning learn some combos, there's nothing else left. You've pretty much mastered the game.

Compare this to a PvP game, where you're fighting against other real human beings who are always changing, adapting, and unpredictable.

I think that's what he meant.

PvP for most players is game to humiliate other, not to improve skill. If you ar won, you have humiliated someone, doesnt matter are you using cheats or exploits or you are really strong. I played in pvp and I had to say that 90% of players is easier then AI, even if not the 95%. And when in pvp two teams of noobs encounters, half of noobs will always win. In Kf when team full of noobs enters the proper difficulty - all noobs are wiped. And where is skill here? If even when you are noob, you have 50% chance to win. Ok, there is 5% skilled players - so 45% chance to win. For noob. If you tell that monsters are too weak, set their quantity and strenght, increasing it you will have meet barrier that you cannot reach, sooner or later. There is no such barrier in pvp too.I think the best type of game is the game where AI and humans fighting on both sides, full pvp is unacceptable, full pve isn't enough.

Really enjoing pvp can be made only with group of equal skill players that has high moral quality - other is trash. If you are high accuracy and reaction, but you are trying to humiliate other / win (for 95% of people it means the same; when you are defeated you can verbally hurt opponent and it also can be counted for yourself as victory), you aren't skilled enough. Skill includes civility too and respect to your teammates and opponents. If player don't have this, he cannot be counted as high skill initially.

 

[DasB]

only for a simple reason, the players from America, like lot of what you said, usually never play in europe server, and visceverse, because the pings

No. People from overseas usually get pings between ~100 and ~180 which is definitely playable. I see quite a lot of people from there and play with them as well (either they play on EU servers or I join them. (with the same ping...). Skill is not based on ping, just watch some of the recent tournaments where people from all across the globe participate and do equally as good / bad, independent of their connection. It doesn't matter how your ping is, if someone is terribad they will be like this on 0 and 300 ping. If you know what you're doing, you can play (up to a certain point ofc.) fairly consistent. So I don't think that this is a reason why such a "top 10 list" does not make sense. (even though I disagree with the general idea of it for various other reasons)

and mostly of ppl only take care about kills and score

Killz equals skillz, that's common knowledge.
may contain traces of irony

I dont consider my self good player, im only are a guy who like play the game, and know good players who think like me, dont care if someone say if is good or bad, only try to enjoy the game and play for fun.

In my experience, those people are usually much more capable than those who call themselfes pro.

 

[ToeKneeAy]

Yes one thing to keep in mind as Flux mentioned is that really good players don't necessarily record themselves playing and may not be involved in tournaments and the like so we would never really know.

This is fair but also consider that KF HoE is a fairly small community. Unless someone consistently plays solo as well as not doing YouTube videos, there's a pretty good chance someone has played with them. Not all players will play with one another due to server location but as previously noted by DasB, many players do play on foreign servers.

On the same point, in response to Nut, I don't think the point about Americans not playing on European servers is true. What region of EU are you? Myself and some of my friends join servers there all the time.

I think what other people said covers most things. There's not really a way to create a list of top players but there is a large difference between good and bad players. Some criteria on which people can be judged we listed in gg's reply.

 

[munchiepoo]

I personally don't see the same player more than once and haven't in my time of playing Killing Floor if I am honest, maybe once.

The whole point of this game is co-op, you can't rate a player based on their footage of them playing solo games, it just doesn't work due to the fact the amount of players increases the amount of zeds in a wave and also how the perks compliment each other.

However, I understand what you're looking for but to be honest there is no "special way to play" the best way to learn and improve is simply to communicate with your team and not do things solo, do what your perk asks of you (ie if you're a Field Medic, heal your team, etc.)

 

[FluX]

This is fair but also consider that KF HoE is a fairly small community. Unless someone consistently plays solo as well as not doing YouTube videos, there's a pretty good chance someone has played with them. Not all players will play with one another due to server location but as previously noted by DasB, many players do play on foreign servers.

On the same point, in response to Nut, I don't think the point about Americans not playing on European servers is true. What region of EU are you? Myself and some of my friends join servers there all the time.

I think what other people said covers most things. There's not really a way to create a list of top players but there is a large difference between good and bad players. Some criteria on which people can be judged we listed in gg's reply.

You have a point but then again, it's still 50/50. I've got the odd american playing on my UK server. I also heard that the odd UK goes to an american server. It's rare but it happens. They do prefer to have lower pings so they prefer not to go to high ping servers (generally 120+ on average is classed as high ping).

You're both right but also both wrong. Agree to disagree

 

[Gladius]

1. mindset
2. tactics
3. skill
4. equipment

On a sidenote: This is what modern weapon instructors teach about what makes an effective warrior. Noteworthy here is that the weapon handling

 

[Gladius]

On the same point, in response to Nut, I don't think the point about Americans not playing on European servers is true. What region of EU are you? Myself and some of my friends join servers there all the time.

Recently I had a game with friends of a friend from australia. They came over to an european server with >330 ping and were uppercutting real badass. Speaking of skill...

 

[rawgr]

I can list a few players that post periodic KF videos that's worth watching to learn from.

Scary Ghost
Devante
Sarius
Armored Puppy
Amber Lamps
ToeKneeAy
DasB
SkyWindRushing
DarkFalz
Felix
Natniik

Thank you for that list.

 

[FeeLicks]

The player skill is something quite vague in KF, but in my personal opinion, it's nothing like having the best aim or winning all your HoE games. I think that a good KF player is always looking to improve and is never in a mindset of "that's it, I am the best now".

For those who took the time to watch devante's videos, you can clearly tell he's a monster at what he does. And speaking to him makes you realise how humble these people can be. To quote him, he says he's an "average player" or "bad@kf" simply because he can't reach the objectives he fixed himself. And once reached, he aims even higher. THAT is undeniably a good player in my standards.

If I had to say some things that make a player somewhat good, it would be healing others prior to themselves, being a teamplayer as in saving your teammates when in danger but also evaluate the danger they're in to see if they actually need you or if you're just going to steal kills, ruin the aggro a fleshpound or a scrake had on them or get them killed by trying to help. (if the player in question is a berserker, it's ok to steal the kill, pissing off a berserker is a favour to the team)

Playing as low level on HoE is also something that requires quite a bit of skill to do, but I'll rule Steff out of this subject, he's one of the most selfish teammates I was ever given to play with.

Wasted did play the game a lot and may seem good to some people (and to himself, miscellaneously) but in the end, all he ever did back when I saw him around was being larry the crab's pocket medic or bowsharp/zerk on westlondon and mountainpass. And that is not the level of skill you expect from someone that complains on the forums about how easy the game is.

To add a constructive touch to all of this, I would say Kuebic's list of good players to learn from is quite accurate. I would rule that Felix guy out though, he's terrible at the game and doesn't even make good videos.