To all the anti-fanboys/fanboys...
- Thread starter SSGermanOfficer
- Start date
He starts out here:
And then proceeds to sound like this: "If you like this game derp derp then you should keep playing deerp with the dwindling derp derp player base, and if you think your ability to overlook derp derp bugs and issues is a virtue it isn't derp derp derp it's just because you're either a TWI fanboy or blind and deeeerp. Don't you know it's a derp derp fact, this game is dead....."
Brilliant.
And then proceeds to sound like this: "If you like this game derp derp then you should keep playing deerp with the dwindling derp derp player base, and if you think your ability to overlook derp derp bugs and issues is a virtue it isn't derp derp derp it's just because you're either a TWI fanboy or blind and deeeerp. Don't you know it's a derp derp fact, this game is dead....."
Brilliant.
find it funny how the fanboys flocked to this like bees to honey. as OP said anyone with eyes (and atlest a semi good taste in FPS) will tell you there are alot of things wrong with RO2, mostly machanically (bugs and poor optimization) but also gameplay wise (MKBs, unlocks that mess with balance, no drum for PPSH)
can it be worked out? ya probably, but will thier be enough people to fill even 1 64 player server once its all fixed? well between mods and maps probably not.
can it be worked out? ya probably, but will thier be enough people to fill even 1 64 player server once its all fixed? well between mods and maps probably not.
That's the thing Rump...even those of us that would be classified as "fanboys" because we might "defend" the game can clearly see the bugs. My biggest issue is the "The sky is falling" hyperbole of the original post. Hell, even your post contains it...
I won't speak for anyone else, but that is my biggest gripe. And the fact that the OP rips "fanboys" for not listening to legitimate gripes and then proceeds to rip "fanboys" for not agreeing with him is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Yeah, you (and anyone that feels as the OP does) has every right to voice their opinion. But don't criticize someone else for disagreeing. That is the crap these forums are full of.
PS I really did have some hope reading the title of the thread, that this one would be different. That this one would be calling for some clear-headedness. Alas...
I won't speak for anyone else, but that is my biggest gripe. And the fact that the OP rips "fanboys" for not listening to legitimate gripes and then proceeds to rip "fanboys" for not agreeing with him is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Yeah, you (and anyone that feels as the OP does) has every right to voice their opinion. But don't criticize someone else for disagreeing. That is the crap these forums are full of.
PS I really did have some hope reading the title of the thread, that this one would be different. That this one would be calling for some clear-headedness. Alas...
Don't be such a ****ing ignoramus - we, 'the fanboys', already all agreed that there are bugs. In fact, we started reporting these bugs and mistakes and whatnot straight away.
People ought to learn to read before joining this forum; half of it is filled with cretins.
//Edit:
The whole point was that posting 'feedback' that appears to be more of a rant, a nerd rage, or something among those lines is absolutely pointless, especially if you don't even suggest any improvements. Get a clue.
Last edited:
ooo what an angry sounding post, did i hit a nerve? ofcourse theres bugs anyone with any gaming experince knows that ALL games have **** ton of bugs at the begining. thing is with RO2 half theses bugs make the game practically unplayable, between the poor netcode (all servers with 150+ ping) and sound bugs and lag spikes i can barely manage to play for more then 30mins without pounding my head into the wall. even the beta ran about 50% smoother and less glichy then the retail version, what game actually gets worse later on??
yes sure theres alot of pointless threads about nerd raging over really silly things, but theres alot more "fanboys" just trash talking anyone who even dares to think that RO2 should be better than this.
a one legged diabetic with a bad hip could run better then this game.
If you've just joined in the last three months and you call yourself a Fanboi, you have a hell of a lot to learn. May I recommend reading the forum posts for the last 2 or three years? 
What you are seeing here is the old guard of Fanboi's who were, well blatantly put, backstabbed. We havent received a tactical shooter, while HOS keeps some of the good bits of Ost, it strays from the spirit of Ost or any good tactical shooter in so many ways.
Actually the best thing to do if you want to inform yourself of the situation is to watch the press release videos, and read old posts on the forums, the ones where we were told of a very different game. Please also realize these were not hype based comments, they were factual. For example the difference between "the game will be fun" and "there will be a hero class who will get rare weapons, there will be ONE of these per team". The second is factual, and it is statements like those that we were fed.
The OP has got it nailed right on the head.
@ about half the posts in here, Clean up your act, even if you disagree with someone either dont post, or do so in a respectful manner! If you are un-capable of that then be gone from these forums.
What you are seeing here is the old guard of Fanboi's who were, well blatantly put, backstabbed. We havent received a tactical shooter, while HOS keeps some of the good bits of Ost, it strays from the spirit of Ost or any good tactical shooter in so many ways.
Actually the best thing to do if you want to inform yourself of the situation is to watch the press release videos, and read old posts on the forums, the ones where we were told of a very different game. Please also realize these were not hype based comments, they were factual. For example the difference between "the game will be fun" and "there will be a hero class who will get rare weapons, there will be ONE of these per team". The second is factual, and it is statements like those that we were fed.
The OP has got it nailed right on the head.
@ about half the posts in here, Clean up your act, even if you disagree with someone either dont post, or do so in a respectful manner! If you are un-capable of that then be gone from these forums.
Okay i guess this is nearly hopeless but one last post from me. (Edit: maybe not it seems)
Rumpullpus:
I'm sorry but OP's arguments just don't hold any ground I ask you to read my post and see why. If you disagree with my response please tell where I am wrong instead of blurting out "fanboy" when you are oppossed in the argument. It's to much an easy way to avoid thinking if you ask me.
I don't understand what you mean by poor netcode i have just been playing on 64P server for 5 hours with 75 ping, i havn't seen any issues related specifically to this.
Some servers do seem to have a problem but please check out other servers before calling it a problem of grand proportions, alot do actually work.
I can think of 2 sound bugs: the MKB and the "sound off" after loading a map? Is this really game breaking? It happens to me maybe every 5 days.... I don't know about you?
I don't know about lag spikes i'm getting alot of FPS drops and performance issues but since patch only on pavlovs house, barracks and station. The other maps seem to work better, still not good enough though i'd say.
The game works better now for me then during beta... I've sent many perfdumps maybe that helped me i don't know... but thats just me, its hard to argue over this really. It's my word against youres really.
I am not trash talking...BTW
And why would my arguments be less valid then your arguments? Because you call me a fanboy? Is that making a point really?
To Ss:
Btw, what the hell is up with that name? I guess thats another issue but why would someone want to call himself an SSofficer. Maybe i'm taking you to seriously.....
First, let me point out an incoherence:
"most of you elude it and act as if the issues are not as significant"
"everyone I see complains about it"
Who is this "most of us" and "everyone" you talk about?
Everyone is complaing but most of us act as if the issues are not significant? What does this mean?
I don't feel like i'm dismissive at all i gave you my idea's about what you said you havn't come up with much of a reply.
I didn't understand a word you said about reality, if thats the definition of reality well we're all in deep sh*t i must say. All i can say is you havn't proven to me yet that "that the reality is in the fact" let alone "the fact that it is not working". If this is common sense then 2 + 2 = 178. And thats because i say so.
I havn't blamed you for anything exept being faulty in you're arguments. But i wouldn't really call that "blaming" its more like responding to what you said. You may say what you want please do... I just disagree and will tell you, whats wrong with that?
People get much to defensive when confronted by critisism, I'm not telling you to shut up, i'm telling you you're wrong and why you are wrong.
Rumpullpus:
I'm sorry but OP's arguments just don't hold any ground I ask you to read my post and see why. If you disagree with my response please tell where I am wrong instead of blurting out "fanboy" when you are oppossed in the argument. It's to much an easy way to avoid thinking if you ask me.
I don't understand what you mean by poor netcode i have just been playing on 64P server for 5 hours with 75 ping, i havn't seen any issues related specifically to this.
Some servers do seem to have a problem but please check out other servers before calling it a problem of grand proportions, alot do actually work.
I can think of 2 sound bugs: the MKB and the "sound off" after loading a map? Is this really game breaking? It happens to me maybe every 5 days.... I don't know about you?
I don't know about lag spikes i'm getting alot of FPS drops and performance issues but since patch only on pavlovs house, barracks and station. The other maps seem to work better, still not good enough though i'd say.
The game works better now for me then during beta... I've sent many perfdumps maybe that helped me i don't know... but thats just me, its hard to argue over this really. It's my word against youres really.
I am not trash talking...BTW
And why would my arguments be less valid then your arguments? Because you call me a fanboy? Is that making a point really?
To Ss:
Btw, what the hell is up with that name? I guess thats another issue but why would someone want to call himself an SSofficer. Maybe i'm taking you to seriously.....
First, let me point out an incoherence:
"most of you elude it and act as if the issues are not as significant"
"everyone I see complains about it"
Who is this "most of us" and "everyone" you talk about?
Everyone is complaing but most of us act as if the issues are not significant? What does this mean?
I don't feel like i'm dismissive at all i gave you my idea's about what you said you havn't come up with much of a reply.
I didn't understand a word you said about reality, if thats the definition of reality well we're all in deep sh*t i must say. All i can say is you havn't proven to me yet that "that the reality is in the fact" let alone "the fact that it is not working". If this is common sense then 2 + 2 = 178. And thats because i say so.
I havn't blamed you for anything exept being faulty in you're arguments. But i wouldn't really call that "blaming" its more like responding to what you said. You may say what you want please do... I just disagree and will tell you, whats wrong with that?
People get much to defensive when confronted by critisism, I'm not telling you to shut up, i'm telling you you're wrong and why you are wrong.
Last edited:
If you've just joined in the last three months and you call yourself a Fanboi, you have a hell of a lot to learn. May I recommend reading the forum posts for the last 2 or three years?
What you are seeing here is the old guard of Fanboi's who were, well blatantly put, backstabbed. We havent received a tactical shooter, while HOS keeps some of the good bits of Ost, it strays from the spirit of Ost or any good tactical shooter in so many ways.
Actually the best thing to do if you want to inform yourself of the situation is to watch the press release videos, and read old posts on the forums, the ones where we were told of a very different game. Please also realize these were not hype based comments, they were factual. For example the difference between "the game will be fun" and "there will be a hero class who will get rare weapons, there will be ONE of these per team". The second is factual, and it is statements like those that we were fed.
The OP has got it nailed right on the head.
@ about half the posts in here, Clean up your act, even if you disagree with someone either dont post, or do so in a respectful manner! If you are un-capable of that then be gone from these forums.
You must agree I am as respectfull as can be?
I do agree with you on one point, it was definitivly said that only hero class would get the crazy stuff.
This hasn't killed my experience with the game though, i'm not going to cry about it because i find the game fun, but i was disapointed i must say. I don't like that MKB nor the double mag for the MP40, it does kill the ambience. I don't mind it being there as an option though.
On the other hand we are definitivly, if you ask me in a tactical game. Its very clear that tactics are needed to do anything if confronted with tactics, no? But maybe even Battlefield 3 can be tactical also right? I guess you meant realistic?
Last edited:
The post was so confusing. So much Sarcasm, I started to get confused about what was sarcasm and what he actually was being truthful about.
One last thing. I like the Waffen-SS even though they got a bad rep but your name is doing no one any favours.
One last thing. I like the Waffen-SS even though they got a bad rep but your name is doing no one any favours.
Last edited:
Well, the only thing that I'm personally having some trouble with are the maps. Now, I didn't play RO1 so I do not know how they were handled there but almost all the maps in RO2 seem rather small / linear.
I know it's Stalingrad and close quarter combat but it sort of feels that there is not that much tactics to be employed like flanking the main line to get behind the enemies to capture an objective since the capping is done in such linear fashion.
Then again this is also something that is quite easily remedied by the modding community and new maps can always be created but for the moment this feels a bit weird so to say.
I know it's Stalingrad and close quarter combat but it sort of feels that there is not that much tactics to be employed like flanking the main line to get behind the enemies to capture an objective since the capping is done in such linear fashion.
Then again this is also something that is quite easily remedied by the modding community and new maps can always be created but for the moment this feels a bit weird so to say.
OP argument... 'my opinion is in fact not an opinion but the actually solid facts and anyone not agreeing with me is a douch fanboy mindlessly defending a fundamentally flawed game'.
Bravo. Glad you set us all straight.
Bravo. Glad you set us all straight.
The OP has pretty much owned you all. He may not be right about everything he said about the game but he has destroyed you all LOL it's amusing.
+1
I really dont get all this pissing and moaning. I play a few hours when i can (work and GF permitting) and i dont see most of the issues people complain about. i sometimes get the old "everyone runs straight ahead into walls etc" thing when i join a server, diconnect and reconnect and its fine. I can then play for 2 hours with zero issues. It sometimes feels like im playing a different game to some of the people on these boards....
I like how in the last 1-2 years everyone who is criticizing a game must be a troll, a whiner or a hater and on the other side everyone who likes something must be a fanboy. Welcome to the internet in 2010.
A Special Olympics participant could write a better argument than you just did; that's something to think about.
I'm playing this game competitively, mostly, in other words the people I play usually try harder than those in a public server. Now, instead of complaining over and over again about the same things, I rather just adapt myself to the current issues to the best of my ability. Recently I've played against a team on ROLadder with a ping of over 320+, consistently, I've still managed to frag 30 people, get the most points and, together with my team of course, win the game.
Another interesting thing you clearly have not even bothered to look up or think about, is the fact that the constantly high pings are caused by the idiots running their servers inappropriately. Our server runs perfectly fine, be it with many people or just several, be it a private game or a public one. You too can achieve this. Instead of wasting your time on the border of 'pounding your head into the wall', you could have spent those 30 minutes reading up about the UE3 engine and finding the necessary client/server-sided tweaks to fix several issues, or at least minimize their effect, yourself. Although many of us would really appreciate it if you kept on banging that 'head' of yours into a concrete wall, instead of returning here and spewing verbal diarrhea onto the forums.
Lastly, no - you did not hit a nerve, I simply called you people out for what you are, and trust me, I know your kind well - for several years I've been covering several competitive scenes in various different places, and your type of people drive games with great potential straight into the ground.
Can't see how it's even possible to argue against the OP. All of his points are more or less facts.