Thoughts about a certain video

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DarkHunt3r

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Being an ex soldier I can honestly say you do not fire an LMG in this manner, it is not used this way, it is not deployed this way, and basically unless your built like Arnie or the Rock, you ain't carrying it around and firing it like this.

This is meant to be representative of an MG32, which I believe most people are claiming weighs around 30 lbs, i heavy weight to be swinging back and forth, but also you have to remember the weight of the ammunition, most people don't realise just how heavy it is, 250 rounds of 7.92 ammo would weigh over 20 lbs, that's a total weight of over 50 lbs, you don't sling that sort of weight just back and forth, you don't sprint around with it, stop and start firing.

When you carry the LMG, yo always have a support soldier with you, and that poor sod carries your extra ammo, and it is a ***** of a job. because it is so bloody heavy, not to mention it is very long which also affects its inertia, and the 7.92 round does have tremendous kick, all high velocity rounds do.

The LMG is used in the battlefield as a suppressive weapon, it is effective to 1000 yards (note the word effective, not accurate) it is designed to put masses of bullets into an area to pin down an enemy position while your assault troops move in closer, or to halt the advance on enemy troops. It is not an assault weapon.

I think far too many people here have been watching movies like rambo and thinking that is something like real life, it is not. Battles in Hollywood movies, even good ones like saving private Ryan are nothing like the reality of a real battle.

And whilst it is possible to fire an LMG from the hip, you would only try it in extreme emergencies, and it would be to pepper a direction to halt an attack when all else had failed and you were running for your life or had been over run. the LMG is used as a DEPLOYED weapon, nor as an assault rifle
 

dweeb

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I've played this game quite a lot and I've never witnessed anyone having anywhere NEAR this level of success running and gunning with an mg. In fact I almost never see anyone successfully running and mg gunning at all. Hell, most people aren't half this accurate firing the mp40 from the hip. Not to mention his enemies seemed especially incompetent. Either this guy is:

a - MUCH MUCH better at this specific task than 99% of the playerbase
b - had an exceptionally lucky streak and managed to get it on video.
c - aimbotting? (I don't like to accuse people of that but you never know I guess)

I'm not saying the mg dosen't seem a little too easy to throw around while running. Some way to model the extra awkwardness/inertia of trying this in real life would be good. Or make movement much slower when firing from the hip. There are a variety of ways it could be improved. But this video still isn't at all representative of average gameplay.

Everyone here likes to post videos of unusual stuff happening and then complain endlessly as to this is what the game is like. (and some of the same people tend to proudly state that they never play the game) I mean if I recorded all my gameplay eventually I'd get a recording where I appeared to be some sort of invincible bayonet ninja, but that wouldn't be an accurate representation of the game.
 

Nenjin

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I watched it and thought, if I put a magic marker reticule on my screen, I'd probably do around as well. Which people have been doing since CS.
 
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SCandChives

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I've played this game quite a lot and I've never witnessed anyone having anywhere NEAR this level of success running and gunning with an mg. In fact I almost never see anyone successfully running and mg gunning at all. Hell, most people aren't half this accurate firing the mp40 from the hip. Not to mention his enemies seemed especially incompetent. Either this guy is:

a - MUCH MUCH better at this specific task than 99% of the playerbase
b - had an exceptionally lucky streak and managed to get it on video.
c - aimbotting? (I don't like to accuse people of that but you never know I guess)

I'm not saying the mg dosen't seem a little too easy to throw around while running. Some way to model the extra awkwardness/inertia of trying this in real life would be good. Or make movement much slower when firing from the hip. There are a variety of ways it could be improved. But this video still isn't at all representative of average gameplay.

Everyone here likes to post videos of unusual stuff happening and then complain endlessly as to this is what the game is like. (and some of the same people tend to proudly state that they never play the game) I mean if I recorded all my gameplay eventually I'd get a recording where I appeared to be some sort of invincible bayonet ninja, but that wouldn't be an accurate representation of the game.
I've never seen anyone ever actually do somthing like this before, although I have seen people try, in which case I put a bullet in them, that's what happens when the Russians aren't completely oblivious. And just the graphics settings alone prove he is exploiting.

However I do think MG handling certainly needs some tweaking.
 

heath4n

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Jul 15, 2009
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I just tried it then, this is possible.

Once you get the hang of it, its a hip shooting sniper lol.

The key is to single shot it like he did, learn the exact distance from the tripod to the middle of the screen and it's insane.
 

Squad Leader

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Sep 26, 2011
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Being an ex soldier I can honestly say you do not fire an LMG in this manner, it is not used this way, it is not deployed this way, and basically unless your built like Arnie or the Rock, you ain't carrying it around and firing it like this.

This is meant to be representative of an MG32, which I believe most people are claiming weighs around 30 lbs, i heavy weight to be swinging back and forth, but also you have to remember the weight of the ammunition, most people don't realise just how heavy it is, 250 rounds of 7.92 ammo would weigh over 20 lbs, that's a total weight of over 50 lbs, you don't sling that sort of weight just back and forth, you don't sprint around with it, stop and start firing.

When you carry the LMG, yo always have a support soldier with you, and that poor sod carries your extra ammo, and it is a ***** of a job. because it is so bloody heavy, not to mention it is very long which also affects its inertia, and the 7.92 round does have tremendous kick, all high velocity rounds do.

The LMG is used in the battlefield as a suppressive weapon, it is effective to 1000 yards (note the word effective, not accurate) it is designed to put masses of bullets into an area to pin down an enemy position while your assault troops move in closer, or to halt the advance on enemy troops. It is not an assault weapon.

I think far too many people here have been watching movies like rambo and thinking that is something like real life, it is not. Battles in Hollywood movies, even good ones like saving private Ryan are nothing like the reality of a real battle.

And whilst it is possible to fire an LMG from the hip, you would only try it in extreme emergencies, and it would be to pepper a direction to halt an attack when all else had failed and you were running for your life or had been over run. the LMG is used as a DEPLOYED weapon, nor as an assault rifle

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This game is very inaccurate. The only LMG that is possible to do this with in real life is the BAR. Even then, with the over powering kick, you wouldn't be able to hit the broad side of a barn with it over 30 meters.

I say this should be addressed or this game should be labled an arcade FPS.
 
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Cyper

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The fact that people are even thinking about Killstreaks in a RO game, and succeeds with it, puts the game to shame according to the RO standard.
 

l3earJew

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Sep 16, 2011
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Is this really what the devs had in mind????? Come on..that's a joke!!

I do feel much better about my deaths online if they are coming from people playing like that.

I have a feeling the "Is this game dead thread" will be a little larger once we all level our machine guns up to 50 or 75!
 

Esh325

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The MG-34 is a VERY heavy gun in in my experience. While I have not fired it, but have held one, I really doubt you could go around hip shooting people with it. Yes, I know that's not the right way to hold a MG-34, lest I burn my fingers off.
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|716ID| Hptm.Popov

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I have to admit, i'm actually playing like this. But , there is a justification for this ... actually all player can have a ZOOM with all their weapon, and can shoot with awesome accuracy every poor mg gunner defending a position.

Mg are absolutely useless in their historical role in this game. So ... i'm Mg34 lover, and in order to continue playing with it , i change my way to fight, and now i'm run n gunning like this.

I'm wrong i know, but i will change my way to play as soon as Ro2 become REALISTIC ! removing this ****ing ZOOM, and removing some accuracy to all weapon.
 

Cyper

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I have to admit, i'm actually playing like this. But , there is a justification for this ... actually all player can have a ZOOM with all their weapon, and can shoot with awesome accuracy every poor mg gunner defending a position.

Mg are absolutely useless in their historical role in this game. So ... i'm Mg34 lover, and in order to continue playing with it , i change my way to fight, and now i'm run n gunning like this.

I'm wrong i know, but i will change my way to play as soon as Ro2 become REALISTIC ! removing this ****ing ZOOM, and removing some accuracy to all weapon.

What's wrong with that?

If it works to play like rambo that's how you should play. Since this game allows that kind of behaviour it's fine.
 

GeneralGinger

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The fact that people are even thinking about Killstreaks in a RO game, and succeeds with it, puts the game to shame according to the RO standard.
Only kill streak i ever thought about in RO or RO2 was the one for the assault class in RO, Blood Rage i think.