Sage, fascists are more country first, nationalistic people. The nation comes before God and anything else for that matter. Communism in it's pure state, is purely social, there is no state/nation to speak of.
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Like that John Lennon song?Sage, fascists are more country first, nationalistic people. The nation comes before God and anything else for that matter. Communism in it's pure state, is purely social, there is no state/nation to speak of.
I still haven't been shown the difference between a fascist and a communist. Both systems are totatlitarian, and value the people as a group over the people as individuals.
I'd be happy to have someone show me what the difference is, but looking at history, I don't see a difference, TBH.
I still haven't been shown the difference between a fascist and a communist. Both systems are totatlitarian, and value the people as a group over the people as individuals.
I'd be happy to have someone show me what the difference is, but looking at history, I don't see a difference, TBH.
just the ammount of quotes in there makes my eyes hurt ... theres like 15 discussions going on at the same time, so each post has 10 quotes and 10 answers to those quotes
Well. I can give you two points.
1. In fascism there was a theory of races. Another race is better than other. Like Italian fascist thought that "the Latin" race is better that others. And in Germany there were "Aryans".
In Italian fascism there were not so strong influense with race theory than in Germany. And in Italy there were not antisemitism in the beginning.
In communism (theory I mean) all men are the same. That is by race too, I mean. So no racial theories there.
2. The other difference is economical.
Fascism co-operated with "capital". With this I mean they did not "socialised" privat property like in CCCP. They co-operated with "bourgeois" and that is how they manged to rise power. Same in Germany and in Italy.
Like in Germany big military orders from the state kept big industry rolling and Hitler got friends from "capitalists".
And in Soviet Union everything was socialised and state owned everything. So no friends from "bourgeois"
There. Just two points to make the difference.
And fascism is nationalistic thought and communism is internationalistic thought (Stalin was not internationalist, but he supported "Soviet patriotism", what ever that is).
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Oh. And just one more thing. Relation to religion.
Fascism in Italy was good friends with catholic church. And popes boys (not all ofcourse) liked Italian fascists and Mussolini. (Who used to be an atheist earlier)
Fascist Spains (Franco) greatest ally was catholic church.
HardCore-Nazis in Germany did not appreciate church, but they co-operated with it. Ordinary (lower-)middle class nazis appreciated church.
Communism is hostile against religion and church. Like Marx said: "Religion is opium for the people."
Well, that's a start. But I still gotta say that from the average Joe's point of view, there's not really much, if any difference.
without politics or religion, everybody gets well along with others.
perhaps i should flame the us politics about france.
I sure i could flame the thread again.
we should try to push them to the limit (to the closed thread)
You're also moderator flashpoint forum ?Just try, but I can guarantee it will not only be the thread we close
The average Joe makes not much distinction between anything beside sports anyway. Taking the average Joe on such topic means a crippled result that has nothing to do with history.