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[Sport] The World Cup 2010 Thread
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well some might argue it's because the pundits know what they're taking about.... but come on when past brasil, ajax or liverpool teams passed like that ppl were gushing praise.
i don't understand how spain can be critised when all they have done this world cup is look to keep the ball, move forward and score with it - while every team they face has negatively defended in numbers, often tried to kick them off the ball and score on the break against them.
phaps I should get myself down to ninian park next season, cos you've clearly been spoilt for quality football.
As you can probably tell I don't like football when nothing happens.
I don't see the point of all the fancy passing if there is no end product beyond holding onto the ball - the majority of the time they were fannying around with the ball was not in an attacking manner, they just passed it about a bit, got it out to either wing, didn't get anyone in the box to receive the cross and then wasted the oppertunity.
Either that or they had "Arsenal disease" and constantly failed trying to pass it into the net.
Beaten by Switzerland, wasted countless oppertunities against Honduras, scraping passed a 10 man Chile squad who were denied a full compliment of players by Torres acting like a pussy (let's be honest they were quite fortunate to even qualify), and then 4 far from thrilling 1-0 victories.
I'm not saying the football I'd describe as quality exists, it certainly doesn't exist in Cardiff - You should have seen them try and beat Blackpool for promotion to the Premier League.
I don't see the point of all the fancy passing if there is no end product beyond holding onto the ball - the majority of the time they were fannying around with the ball was not in an attacking manner, they just passed it about a bit, got it out to either wing, didn't get anyone in the box to receive the cross and then wasted the oppertunity.
Either that or they had "Arsenal disease" and constantly failed trying to pass it into the net.
Beaten by Switzerland, wasted countless oppertunities against Honduras, scraping passed a 10 man Chile squad who were denied a full compliment of players by Torres acting like a pussy (let's be honest they were quite fortunate to even qualify), and then 4 far from thrilling 1-0 victories.
I'm not saying the football I'd describe as quality exists, it certainly doesn't exist in Cardiff - You should have seen them try and beat Blackpool for promotion to the Premier League.
The dutch were awful, the game was too dirty and static. The coach even threw away the medal at the end. Sportsmanship = 0
Holland should have fallen against Brazil. They made us watch an awfully violent final.
At least Germany defended and attacked with style and fair play, if some team other than Spain deserved the cup, it was them.
Holland should have fallen against Brazil. They made us watch an awfully violent final.
At least Germany defended and attacked with style and fair play, if some team other than Spain deserved the cup, it was them.
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The Netherlands should be ashamed after that "spectacle" of repeatadly fouling, whining and general unsportsmanly conduct. Well done Spain. 
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That would have meant more red cards for the Dutch (or the Spanish too for that matter).
I think the referee tried to keep the game balanced by not giving penalty kicks (I didn't see a foul that deserved a pk as punishment) or red cards (until he had too).
The referee didn't have anything to do with who won or lost. Robben failed at two different and possibly game winning situations) Sure the Spanish didn't play the most beautiful football but if your team can hold the ball and plays "better" you deserve to win.
That kick foul was a red card yes, but the rest of the match was terrible. Both sides got way too many cards. That goal, the first move was offside, 2nd attempt wasn't. Even a unbiased viewer couldn't say the ref did a good job. It was utter bs.
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howard webb is probably the best referee atm so he was the obvious choice. he should've shown some red cards though, but other than that he wasn't too bad imo, there have been worse performances in this world cup. thing is the dutch dont get to complain at all, the ref shouldve given at least two red cards in 1st period then it wouldve been 11vs9 and the game decided. i was hoping for netherlands and even bet 10
LOL, it's funny how everybody says that the Dutch played dirty and at the same time praise Spain's performance. Hypocrisy much?
During the first half the Dutch played quite dirty, that's for sure. van Bommel and de Jong went over the line. Oranje has much more potential and Robben's chances should have went into the net.
Second half though, the Spanish were dirty as well, diving like a bunch of sissies and actually fooling the referee by doing so (and the rest of the world, see the media). Very unsportsmanship-like.
Also, the ref was terrible. He didn't grant NL a corner, got fooled by the Spanish, didn't see a bunch of fouls and continually gave cards. That red card for Heitinga was totally unnecessary. Spain is a good team that deserved to win, but anyone with half a brain can agree that the ref negatively influenced the game. The Spanish took advantage of that. A dirty tactic, but sadly it works. Which is exactly the reason why FIFA needs to adopt technology to prevent such nonsense.
It's one thing to be rooting for a certain team, but don't view that team through rose-coloured glasses (like the 'pundits' do) please. Be objective.
Anyway, gg.
During the first half the Dutch played quite dirty, that's for sure. van Bommel and de Jong went over the line. Oranje has much more potential and Robben's chances should have went into the net.
Second half though, the Spanish were dirty as well, diving like a bunch of sissies and actually fooling the referee by doing so (and the rest of the world, see the media). Very unsportsmanship-like.
Also, the ref was terrible. He didn't grant NL a corner, got fooled by the Spanish, didn't see a bunch of fouls and continually gave cards. That red card for Heitinga was totally unnecessary. Spain is a good team that deserved to win, but anyone with half a brain can agree that the ref negatively influenced the game. The Spanish took advantage of that. A dirty tactic, but sadly it works. Which is exactly the reason why FIFA needs to adopt technology to prevent such nonsense.
It's one thing to be rooting for a certain team, but don't view that team through rose-coloured glasses (like the 'pundits' do) please. Be objective.
Anyway, gg.
So what? Then maybe the spanish deserved 2-3 yellow cards for diving(though I didn't see any case where a yellow card would have been appropriate except for one case where Iniesta dived), but then at the same time you have to give Van Bommel and De Jong red cards, which would have resulted in immediate destruction of the dutch. So where is the point of complaining? Netherlands didn't play well, all they did was foul in order to destroy spains game. Still spain had like 4985x more ball posession and more chances as well. Of course Robben could've scored twice and should have, but he didn't.
Now anyone saying spains victory was not deserved as well as those complaining about the ref prefering the spanish is just plain ignorant. Again I was completely on the sides of the netherlands and personally I found their fouls quite entertaining haha, and I was hoping for them to reach the penalty shootout. But Spain simply deserved the victory, here ignorance != objectivity
Now anyone saying spains victory was not deserved as well as those complaining about the ref prefering the spanish is just plain ignorant. Again I was completely on the sides of the netherlands and personally I found their fouls quite entertaining haha, and I was hoping for them to reach the penalty shootout. But Spain simply deserved the victory, here ignorance != objectivity
I'm not saying that NL played a great game. Plenty of mistakes there - van Bommel's aggressive tackle (red would be too harsh IMO), de Jong's kungfu kick, bad passes, lost chances. I don't think they played to 'destroy' Spain's team though. Spain was the better team but not even by that much. Difference between ball possession was only 14%. Spain could only make a goal after 116 minutes.
Watch the replays again - apparently the world has forgotten about Spain's dirty tactics and Webb's mistakes. To say that Webb didn't play a role in NL's defeat is looney. I'm not putting all of the blame on Webb, it's a combination of different factors. But the huge number of yellow cards says it all really.
Watch the replays again - apparently the world has forgotten about Spain's dirty tactics and Webb's mistakes. To say that Webb didn't play a role in NL's defeat is looney. I'm not putting all of the blame on Webb, it's a combination of different factors. But the huge number of yellow cards says it all really.
How does that say it all? The high number of yellow card was mostly a result of the fact that he didn't give any of the deserved red cards. If he would have had a better day he would've only been more serious which would mean red cards which would mean Holland probably wouldn't even have made it into extra time
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My comments about instant replay werent angled exclusively toward the final match but rather toward football/soccer as a whole sport.
Football needs better refs; more refs on the field so things arent missed; and they need instant reply for the really game changing situations that happen during matches. Instant replay shows exactly what happened and leaves nothing to interpretation. I believe it's important to have instant replay in all sports, especially very high level matches where a lot is on the line. Humans are fallible - they make mistakes... instant replay does not. There is no arguing with the truth.
Plus if you were going to be shamed in front of the crowd, your team-mates, and the other team you are less likely to act like a prick.