The "Stop Online Piracy Act".
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How do you suppose they would that? I have never heard of this "fact", please inform me.
Steele- I do know the Internet was developed by the US DoD. It is my understanding, however, that it has since become a global thing over which the US DoD does not have a definite voice.
They do? Well, let them shut down the Internet. The Americans are crazy enough to do that, no need of convincing me; we go back 25 years. But once an idea is out there, you really have to go to great lengths to kill it. The US kill the Internet, Internet 2 - be it nationally- or internationally-developed - appears some time later. The idea persists.
I should think the US economy needs a stab in the back right now with the killing off of the internet and hence that's what the US senators are going to do. Right?
Naturally, the absurdity of the whole idea does not mean we should be any less vehement in not allowing this to happen- because why should we go back 25 years (that could be made up for in a few weeks/months/years)?
On the flip side of the whole issue, somewhere at the core of this idea there is a grain of truth. I know of websites which really put their backs into making all the pretence of looking like a legit site, while allowing illegal content to be uploaded. An IP issue arises? Fine, the website pulls the content down - sometimes even forbids any further uploads of same content to happen again. But the whole idea for that unnamed website (intentionally; and it's not a codeword for any of the giant websites, rather it's something you've probably not heard of, unless you're into a certain niche of the economy) was to provide a platform for sharing those illegal files. I imagine whoever came up with the idea for the bill might have been inspired by such cases of dishonesty and pushing the envelope of what was legally possible.
Oh, and that song referred to in the OP's video, the one that was taken down? Again, I have no way of knowing, but I suppose that the artists involved were bound by contractual terms- which the record company in question felt they violated by making the song (under their artist names?). Again, questionable, but as with many things connected with the law, you could argue for either side.'
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Heck, somewhere inside of me, there is a little devil that wants to see the US divest themselves of its power over the internet in this way. Armageddons are such fun, afterall.
They do? Well, let them shut down the Internet. The Americans are crazy enough to do that, no need of convincing me; we go back 25 years. But once an idea is out there, you really have to go to great lengths to kill it. The US kill the Internet, Internet 2 - be it nationally- or internationally-developed - appears some time later. The idea persists.
I should think the US economy needs a stab in the back right now with the killing off of the internet and hence that's what the US senators are going to do. Right?
Naturally, the absurdity of the whole idea does not mean we should be any less vehement in not allowing this to happen- because why should we go back 25 years (that could be made up for in a few weeks/months/years)?
On the flip side of the whole issue, somewhere at the core of this idea there is a grain of truth. I know of websites which really put their backs into making all the pretence of looking like a legit site, while allowing illegal content to be uploaded. An IP issue arises? Fine, the website pulls the content down - sometimes even forbids any further uploads of same content to happen again. But the whole idea for that unnamed website (intentionally; and it's not a codeword for any of the giant websites, rather it's something you've probably not heard of, unless you're into a certain niche of the economy) was to provide a platform for sharing those illegal files. I imagine whoever came up with the idea for the bill might have been inspired by such cases of dishonesty and pushing the envelope of what was legally possible.
Oh, and that song referred to in the OP's video, the one that was taken down? Again, I have no way of knowing, but I suppose that the artists involved were bound by contractual terms- which the record company in question felt they violated by making the song (under their artist names?). Again, questionable, but as with many things connected with the law, you could argue for either side.'
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Heck, somewhere inside of me, there is a little devil that wants to see the US divest themselves of its power over the internet in this way. Armageddons are such fun, afterall.
What i'd like to know, is how does it affect this country, with the United States passing that bill, would they then have the power to shut down sites based here?
Is hard to predict whats gonna happen to those outside the US in terms of internet accessibility to free and independent content, but one thing is certain: nothing good will come out of having the giant corporations taking full control of the media released to such a big market as is the US, and the ability to lock the means that smaller companies had to access that market.
But if that happens then the people providing the content would loose a large amount of their profits, which might cause them to shut down, which would in turn mean that people outside of the US will be indirectly denied access to said content as well.
Come on now, I didn't berate. I don't think it's out of line to ask for a person to have at least an inkling of an idea about a subject before commenting on it. But I'll try to be nice next time, I promise.
There's provisions in the bill for copyright holders to pursue legal action against foreign enablers, so I'd assume if there's some kind of workaround they would have grounds attack that as well.
It's so broad it really shows the ignorance of the people working to enact it.
While its possible, I don't see this actually passing and if it does it will eventually be removed.
Just my prediction.
Just my prediction.
But seriously if anyone thinks the internet can be 'shut down' you need to learn how the internet actually works and the history of its development.
The "left" and "right" in Europe is very different from the "left" and "right" in the USA.
