The point of loading 1 clip insteap of 1 magazine in SVT-40?

[Proud_God]

Take your SVT-40, fire a few rounds, hit reload. You will put in 1 stripper clip from the top, which is way slower than reloading a magazine from below. So, what's the point of this?

 

[Grobut]

Take your SVT-40, fire a few rounds, hit reload. You will put in 1 stripper clip from the top, which is way slower than reloading a magazine from below. So, what's the point of this?

There isen't one, because you technically have as many mags as you can carry.

In reallity though, SVT-40 mags were not so liberally distributed, and the soldiers did carry a lot of their ammo in the form of Mosin Nagant strippers, and only 2 or 3 mags (including the one mounted in the gun).

Ironically, if this was reflected propperly in the game, the SVT-40 would not only be better balanced with the G-41, but it woulden't be as big an improvement over the Bolties as it currently is. It would be historically accurate, it would be better balanced, and it would give more tactical depth to the SVT.

 

[Proud_God]

There isen't one, because you technically have as many mags as you can carry.

In reallity though, SVT-40 mags were not so liberally distributed, and the soldiers did carry a lot of their ammo in the form of Mosin Nagant strippers, and only 2 or 3 mags (including the one mounted in the gun).

Ironically, if this was reflected propperly in the game, the SVT-40 would not only be better balanced with the G-41, but it woulden't be as big an improvement over the Bolties as it currently is. It would be historically accurate, it would be better balanced, and it would give more tactical depth to the SVT.

Hmm I see. I could definately roll with the idea of only a few magazines and the rest stripper clips. I guess this could aslo apply to the ppsh: a few drum mags, the rest stick mags?

 

[Krobar]

I guess this could aslo apply to the ppsh: a few drum mags, the rest stick mags?

Kinda backwards drum mags were standard issue while stick mags were use for roles that drum mags couldn't fit. I think that tank commanders were given stick mags or something due to the cramped tanks.

 

[BL4Z3>FAS>]

I thought it was so rather than having a few almost empty mags ,...you could top them up manually or something to that effect ....

 

[Grobut]

Hmm I see. I could definately roll with the idea of only a few magazines and the rest stripper clips. I guess this could aslo apply to the ppsh: a few drum mags, the rest stick mags?

Yes, a mixed loadout of both drums and sticks were common for the PPSh from cirka late 42 or early 43 onwards, so it does fit roughly with the timeframe of the game.

It would also have been a better way to balance the PPSh and MP-40 than adding the MP-40/II

 

[clambo]

I thought it was so rather than having a few almost empty mags ,...you could top them up manually or something to that effect ....

THIS - you can top off the mag and not have a bunch of almost empty ones left
when you know you're going to need a pretty full one coming up - it is a nice feature

 

[DAT]

Maybe Mother Russia is just being cheap by not issuing magazines....

 

[Proud_God]

THIS - you can top off the mag and not have a bunch of almost empty ones left
when you know you're going to need a pretty full one coming up - it is a nice feature

That does not make sense. Unless you reload again after putting in a clip, the 'combined' mag in your gun will just get used. So no effect on your stock mags. Also, where does the clip come from? From an other mag. So you're splitting up that mag.

 

[DesiQ]

Ironically, if this was reflected propperly in the game, the SVT-40 would not only be better balanced with the G-41

Is it unbalanced because the SVT can reload from a mag and the G-41 must reload from stripper clips?

I would love to see such balancing at work between the 250-round belted MG-34 and the DP-28 with no upgrades.

 

[Colt .45 killer]

Is it unbalanced because the SVT can reload from a mag and the G-41 must reload from stripper clips?

I would love to see such balancing at work between the 250-round belted MG-34 and the DP-28 with no upgrades.

Your head sir, get it out of your arse!


For realism sakes the SVT 40 should be loading almost exclusively from stripper clips, you might have had one spare mag, two if lucky.


Also, @ MG comment, the game should be ballanced out by giving each side what they would have had. meaning Axis should get more MG's and LESS smg's, and the opposite for the russians. (the ruskies could also use that tank model MG)

 

[Stahlhelmii]

There isen't one, because you technically have as many mags as you can carry.

In reallity though, SVT-40 mags were not so liberally distributed, and the soldiers did carry a lot of their ammo in the form of Mosin Nagant strippers, and only 2 or 3 mags (including the one mounted in the gun).

Ironically, if this was reflected propperly in the game, the SVT-40 would not only be better balanced with the G-41, but it woulden't be as big an improvement over the Bolties as it currently is. It would be historically accurate, it would be better balanced, and it would give more tactical depth to the SVT.

Yep, even the M1 Garand was generally reloaded by using stripper clips.

 

[bier]

Yep, even the M1 Garand was generally reloaded by using stripper clips.

Aren't that en-bloc clips?

 

[Grobut]

Is it unbalanced because the SVT can reload from a mag and the G-41 must reload from stripper clips?

It would make them more similar, so yeah, with the SVT you'd just have the abillity to do one or two quick full mag changes, an option you don't get with the G-41.

But more importantly to me, it would be realistic, and it would make the semi rifle slightly less

 

[pepihoh]

Take your SVT-40, fire a few rounds, hit reload. You will put in 1 stripper clip from the top, which is way slower than reloading a magazine from below. So, what's the point of this?

You wont be carrying a bunch of half empty mags maybe? Reloading via stripper clip is far better than have a bunch of mags with 3-4 bullets left. Yes, it still splits your mags, but after you reload two times you lose that mag anyway so most of your mags are full, and your rifle is always at full capacity. Personally, I like this feature, and instead in ro1 where I would just fire off the remaining rounds to get rid of the half empty mag now I can just keep reloading with stripper clips and the problem is solved.

EDIT:And another upside of this, you have for example two mags each having 5 bullets. By using stripper clips, you can easily merge them into one full magazine.

 

[Proud_God]

You wont be carrying a bunch of half empty mags maybe? Reloading via stripper clip is far better than have a bunch of mags with 3-4 bullets left. Yes, it still splits your mags, but after you reload two times you lose that mag anyway so most of your mags are full, and your rifle is always at full capacity. Personally, I like this feature, and instead in ro1 where I would just fire off the remaining rounds to get rid of the half empty mag now I can just keep reloading with stripper clips and the problem is solved.

EDIT:And another upside of this, you have for example two mags each having 5 bullets. By using stripper clips, you can easily merge them into one full magazine.

At the very least we need the option on what to reload (mags or clips). If I still have full mags instock, I want to reload a mag, and not lose time with stripper clips.

 

[Sir Roderick]

THIS - you can top off the mag and not have a bunch of almost empty ones left
when you know you're going to need a pretty full one coming up - it is a nice feature

I'm now imagining sitting in a corner topping off drum mags one round at a time

 

[pepihoh]

At the very least we need the option on what to reload (mags or clips). If I still have full mags instock, I want to reload a mag, and not lose time with stripper clips.

Well you reload stripper clips only when you have exactly five bullets left. Otherwise you reload a mag.

 

[SCandChives]

There isen't one, because you technically have as many mags as you can carry.

In reallity though, SVT-40 mags were not so liberally distributed, and the soldiers did carry a lot of their ammo in the form of Mosin Nagant strippers, and only 2 or 3 mags (including the one mounted in the gun).

Ironically, if this was reflected propperly in the game, the SVT-40 would not only be better balanced with the G-41, but it woulden't be as big an improvement over the Bolties as it currently is. It would be historically accurate, it would be better balanced, and it would give more tactical depth to the SVT.

Pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking, just a couple of mags and the rest clips.

Hmm I see. I could definately roll with the idea of only a few magazines and the rest stripper clips. I guess this could aslo apply to the ppsh: a few drum mags, the rest stick mags?

That too.

Also, @ MG comment, the game should be ballanced out by giving each side what they would have had. meaning Axis should get more MG's and LESS smg's, and the opposite for the russians. (the ruskies could also use that tank model MG)

IIRC (without looking it up) the MG's in the T34 were pretty much the equivalent of a .50 cal, certainly not fit for use as an LMG. Though the Russians certainly need something to balance it out though.

I'm now imagining sitting in a corner topping off drum mags one round at a time

Stop ****ting your pants and grow some balls. Just grab the other end and use it as a club.

 

[Proud_God]

Well you reload stripper clips only when you have exactly five bullets left. Otherwise you reload a mag.

Not true, you reload a clip is there are 5 or less bullets left in your gun. In these cases I would like the options to load a mag.