The list of low hanging fruit: simple yet annoying issues that should have easy fixes

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Kerc Kasha

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The term might confuse some people but what I mean by it is: fixing simple yet annoying problems that exist in the game currently. Maybe the community can help out with listing some of the more obnoxious yet simple to fix issues in the game currently. While there are more 'pressing' and high priority issues such as performance and crashing, this is a list of fixes that would improve the game itself without dabbling into the area of balance etc.

Remember this is for stuff that could be easily changed or fixed not for things like the 'no-shoot' bug that is bewildering us all. Anything that requires a complete redo of an existing system is NOT long hanging-fruit as it'd more than likely bring further issues to an issue prone game.

The list will be broken up into several categories and sub-categories in order to simplify things as the list gets larger.

New Features

UI


  • Not being able to remove Artillery markers as commander - Right now the only way to do this is by selecting the marker you want to remove with left click and then selecting another marker. This is obnoxious and annoying, please just make it so a right click will remove a marker.
  • Give a notification when you've been 'replaced' via a commission - Just a simple message and returns you to the class select screen when you die - if you're not dead already.
  • Add a list of who is in your vehicle/squad to the tactical overlay
  • Make it more obvious when you can and can't spawn on your squad leader - Right now the majority of people believe that the squad leader spawning is bugged even though it really isn't just not many people know how it works. Instead of sending a manual to everyone make it more obvious when you can and can't spawn on your squad leader. This can be done in a few ways: 1) force the camera to spectate the squad leader. 2) add a message stating when the squad leader is in combat , this will appear while you're spectating him. 3) Pause the spawn timer on 0 for the individual player until the squad leader dies or leaves combat.
  • Add a chat history hotkey or button to the escape menu.
  • Add a hud icon for Squad leaders to indicate if people can spawn on them, also a number of people waiting to spawn on them next to it.
  • Add a rose menu to the universal use key(cover button) that will appear when there is more than one action possible.
  • Highlight the current players name on the scoreboard. - Similarly it might be a good idea to make it so if the current player isn't on the scoreboard (because their score is too low/too many players) that they'll be at the very bottom regardless.
  • Select a spawn point by clicking it on the map rather than the 'Spawn 1' etc buttons

Gameplay

  • Make it more obvious when a reload animation ends - It happens at least once, you reload your weapon, think it's reloaded and start moving again, try to shoot someone and hear a dreadful 'click'. Maybe make reload animations uninteruptable towards the very end of the animation. Like the very last few frames
  • Swapping between Iron sights/Scope can be done without raising the sights/scope

End-user configuration

  • Change chat colour based on side, squad and maybe class. Commander orange, your squad leader green etc. Maybe not text, maybe just the name.
  • Hotkeys for individual voice commands
  • Hud overlay transparency, individual client setting.
  • Add hotkey combinations similar to RO1
  • Have a forgive hotkey.
  • Allow all 'use' key actions(cover, resupplying, bandaging etc) to be rebound
Tweaks

UI

  • Change Menu priorities - The escape menu should override both the map and respawn menu.
  • Escape closes everything. Chat, Map, Spawn selection, battlefield commissions. Escape gets all that crap out of your face.
  • Reduce the amount of chat messages during tanking. A lot of them aren't useful. - When a command is repeated, only display it once. So the chat isn't flooded with 'Turn left, turn left' over and over again.
  • Make the player's current position on the map more obvious - The little triangle can be hard to find on a cluttered map.
  • Resize the objective icons on the tactical overview - They're much too large and will block vision, usually when the overview is forced to appear when an objective changes hands
  • Make use of the tooltips in the profile stats page - Right now if you mouse over stats a tool tip pops up that simply restates what you're hovering over. Please make use of these tool tips to explain what each stat means

Gameplay

  • Auto-balance takes into account 'leader' roles and is least likely to swap them.
  • Tank commanders should start in the commander position, not the driver.
  • Changing classes while alive will change the class the next time you spawn, not forcing you to suicide. Allow an option to suicide if the player so chooses, something other than 'suicide' in console.
  • Increase the time spent before map change on servers that do not use the voting features. - This is to allow players to chat after the game has ended. Just make it long enough that the full victory music can play like it does on servers with map voting enabled.
  • Add a automatic 'ready' checkbox to the spawn menu - Some people would prefer to make sure they spawn where they want to spawn the first time but others would rather to spawn ASAP, this checkbox allows them to be always ready regardless of if they've set a spawn point.
  • The spawn menu will remember your last chosen spawn point
  • Squads only open when all existing squads are full. - The reason for this is on not completely full servers people will select Squad Leader, Assault and elite riflemen positions in completely empty squads which usually leads to the amount of automatic weapons:bolt ratio being completely out. This is particularly bad on servers running 64 player versions of the map with significantly less people. The first squad should always be open, the second squad should always be a specialist squad such as engineers or machine gun squads(and also be always open) while the 3rd and 4th should be locked until the first two are full. This can be a server setting

End-user configuration

  • Increase the number of lines for chat or allow for end-users to set how many lines they desire.
  • 'Looted' Veteran weapons are the default selection - A lot of people dislike the idea of spawning with a Russian weapon as a German and vice versa but disregarding that issue entirely, it's probably not a good thing that these weapons become the new default weapon for veteran classes. Please swap them around including the MKB over the Mp40 and AVT over the PPSh-41.
Glitches

UI

  • Fix the icons on the tactical overlay - A lot of icons clip through the ground. This is also an issue on the map where the icons are nowhere near the actual place they're marking
  • Fix reopening the spawn menu - Right now you can press ; to reopen the spawn menu after already selecting a spawn, however it will usually close immediately after making it difficult to actually change your choice. This seems to be linked to the spectator system as it seems to close right after you left or right click.
  • Fix squad class selection - Right now if you scroll down the list on the 'join a squad' menu and someone selects a class, your list will immediately jump right back to the top while the scroll bar will be stuck where you had it previously. Remove the jumping.
  • Map voting - Similar to squad class selection, the map voting will jump back up to the top of the list and reset your currently selected map everytime someone votes.


Gameplay

  • Artillery cancels on objective capture if the artillery target is in now protected area - This wouldn't be so much of an issue if it didn't mean you'd be without artillery for the full cooldown even if all you had was on mortar salvo before it fell into a protected area. This is particularly bad on Commissar's House.

End-user configuration
Mistakes and bugs
UI

  • Stats page does not work as intended, class unlocks do not show that they are unlocked, weapon unlocks will always say the next unlock is at 25 even when it is not. - Pretty simple just make everything work as it's supposed to. I'm guessing it was given the least priority as it's not exactly a game breaking issue.
  • Fix the np/forgive system - There is no message for either successfully forgiving someone or being forgiven. Messages for both confirming an NP and when receiving one.
  • Fix the voting system, again give feedback for successfully voting. Also add the ability to change the voting keys from F4 and F5.
  • The 'Server is full' message can sometimes fall behind other UI elements.
  • Squad leader move orders and 'suppress/attack' orders won't show on the tactical overlay.
  • A lot of the names of upgrades on the stat page are incorrect - For example the K98 Scoped first unlock is supposedly a bayonet, when in reality in unlocks a 6x scope. It's second unlock is supposed a 1.5x ZF41 scope, when in reality it's a bayonet.
Gameplay

  • If a player is team swapped upon being killed, his killer will receive a 'team-kill'
End-user configuration
Maps

Zone Issues(Spawn Protection, Artillery no fire zones, Objective cap radius etc)

  • On Commissar's House the artillery protection is overly aggressive usually disallowing artillery on just locked objectives. A good example of this is if Allies take objective A, Axis cannot call arty on anything beyond point A.

Tweaks


MG/AT weapons being unable to deploy on geometry that they should be able to
-Current list:

  • piles of grain sacks on Station
  • various other bits of railway gear on Station
  • all windows on all maps (that's right, check them all and fix the ones where deployment either buries you inside the wall or sticks you to the side of the window instead of the bottom edge).
Outcropping geometry causing movement/aiming issues


  • in the NCO barracks in "barracks", on the 2nd floor on the right middle room the overlooks the infirmary, there is some piece of geometry sticking out of the floor which can mess up your movements while crouched.
  • on Pavlov's house, in the 2nd floor room that overlooks, there's a wooden pallet on the floor that can spam up your movement when you're crouched near the window, which can be problematic when you're having gunfights with people in the building across the street.

Gameplay
EDIT:

I added a map section also as there's quite a few problems in some of the maps and being able to pinpoint them will be very helpful.
 
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Colt .45 killer

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Less easy : Gun still not firing on first click ( this happens to me approx 300-500% more then before after this last patch )

Team ballance should not switch team leaders or squad leader, there is a conflict of interest If I have just sighted artillery for the commander and told my guys to be flanking on side X.

When the respawn location selector is open, if you hit Esc it does not take priority and the respawn window will still be there. If I recall right hitting ready then closes that and then you see the esc window.

Respawn locations do not remember which one you have selected, they should.


There should be some way of the commander knowing people want to spawn on him, and people knowing they cannot spawn on the commander. Also possibly an option to wait till the commander is in cover and you can spawn on him.

Some better information in terms of the reload animations, I swear many times I have fully waiting till the hammer is home then started running to move up, acquire a target, gun up. Click! The animation was some .001 seconds from finishing and as such my gun is not loaded.
 

nuNce

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Aug 25, 2011
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Fix the squad selection menu (happens sometimes it keeps returning to the top, after draggin it down) and make it the default menu to choose a role. Also allow "special classes" (mg, assault, elite) to choose whichever team they want, as long as they are under a certain limit (say 2). Simple as that: i pick a squad slot then I'm bought to the role selection menu whith only the available weapons shown.

Show in the tactical view the name of your squad members at least when you are squad leader. But I'd do it for the normal grunt too, damn in war you would know who your teamates are, and make it more obvious when you are near a teamate. Maybe even a slight difference on the uniform. A coloured patch, whatever you want.

Allow me to spawn in a tank as long as there are AI crewman.

Make the commander of a tank spawn as a commander, not as the driver.
 
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Shadrach

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- Fix dying (suicide) when selecting a different role in the role selection screen (this one is *annoying*)

- More lines of team chat text or ability to choose num of lines to show
- Esc to cancel text chat input
- Text chat history and input window - useful for seeing stuff you missed
- Different text chat colours for different teams, Axis/Allies etc.
- Ability for text chat while waiting for battle/after battle/during voting

- Ability to use "hotkey"-combinations for voice commands instead of mouse (like in RO1)
- Ability to set confirm/deny to other keys than F4/F5 (like PgUP/Down, it seems hard coded to F4+5 and can't be changed atm)
- Ability to map certain voice commands (Grenade, Friendly Fire etc) to keys - F is very useful to bind to "Friendly Fire!" for instance.
- HUD overlay transparency (like in RO1)
 

Vyllis

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Jun 3, 2010
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-> Make it appear on the screen/chat when someone forgive you.

-> Make it appear on the screen/chat when i successfully forgave someone.

-> Stop showing the enemies location, everywhere in our screen, when an objective is captured/lost.
 
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Kerc Kasha

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Sep 11, 2011
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added most of the posted ideas to the OP. The ones that I didn't are either because they were already too similar to what I originally had or could require a great deal of work(such as allowing the swapping and changing of classes within squads - a good idea but I don't think the current system would allow it without being completely redone)

EDIT: oh damn more posts i'll go through those aswell
 
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Gaizokubanou

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Sep 5, 2011
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Show correct ping for the server. Every server gets something between 30 ~ 100 extra ping in game.
 

Kerc Kasha

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Sep 11, 2011
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Show correct ping for the server. Every server gets something between 30 ~ 100 extra ping in game.
the extra ping is because nearly every server is under serious load at the moment and is actually accurate. The ping you see in the server browser does not include the increased pings from CPU load
 
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nuNce

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Aug 25, 2011
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added most of the posted ideas to the OP. The ones that I didn't are either because they were already too similar to what I originally had or could require a great deal of work(such as allowing the swapping and changing of classes within squads - a good idea but I don't think the current system would allow it without being completely redone)

EDIT: oh damn more posts i'll go through those aswell

Sure, you're right keeping it tight. Good job! :)
 

Flanker15

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Jul 18, 2006
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-> Make it appear on the screen/chat when someone forgive you.

-> Make it appear on the screen/chat when i successfully forgave someone.

-> Have a single button press to forgive

-> Give the SL some icon to know that people can spawn on him on the tac hud.
 

Unus Offa Unus Nex

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Oct 21, 2010
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Two of the most saught after additions to the game that should've been there from the start:

- The ability to choose between your unlocked weapon upgrades
- The ability to attach & detach bayonet ingame

When TWI gets around adding both of these things the game will become A LOT more enjoyable for everyone.
 

Millitron

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 8, 2011
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Change the cover system. I hate having so much stuff bound to one key. At least make it an option.

Ability to choose what unlocks to use. I don't want the scope on my MKB, but I have no choice.

FIX THE GUN-NOT-FIRING-ON-FIRST-CLICK BUG
 

Graphic

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Aug 2, 2006
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Fix the map voting menu resetting to whatever map you have highlighted every time someone votes.

This leads to only a handful of maps being played on servers with voting.
 

Dionysos

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Mar 6, 2006
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I really wonder how some of these things made it into the game. I mean a good part of them should (?) be basically decisions... like chat color. Or the death on role change (why? how?)... I would *love* to hear the story behind these.

Overall the list seems to cover all the small gripes I have though.

Oh, and you should add "Being able to easily find yourself on the scoreboard". But yeah, this belongs in suggestions.
 
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fiftyone

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-> Make it appear on the screen/chat when someone forgive you.

-> Make it appear on the screen/chat when i successfully forgave someone.

Last time I looked in the console after typing "NP", I saw a "unkown command" error, or something of the sort.

Last night on the Factory map (me tinks :D), I had a "lighting needs to be rebuilt" error message, this should only happen in the editor I believe.

Maybe a server problem but I doubt it.

Anybody ?

Fixes, not bugs, Examiner2.