Oh, seriously now?
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Ah well. It gave me time to learn how to fend for myself.
I can now finish waves by myself as a Field Medic because I learned how to shoot.
...Only thing I can't kill properly are Scrakes/Fleshpounds;
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Oh, seriously now?
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Ah well. It gave me time to learn how to fend for myself.
I can now finish waves by myself as a Field Medic because I learned how to shoot.
...Only thing I can't kill properly are Scrakes/Fleshpounds;
That hurt, Jester.
I still play on Normal and if I hadn't reset my perks a week ago, I would be one of those level 6 players playing on Normal.
But I do it because I like to coach--well I sort of yell at people but that's their fault for not listening-- newbies.
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And I can't play on Hard because most of the European servers I can find are full of...
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..Well, retards. No offense to anyone.
Thats about right, if you want a game that isnt' full of mupets, I invite you to join my friends and I some time. I have a UK based server that is open to the public 80% of the time. My Steam userid MGartley. This offer is open to most of the forum btw, just let me know where you added me from.
Aw, really, that's nice, but I bet you're from America or so-
YYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH-
Actually I'm a bit sad to see this happening! Back in the KF Mod everyone was "equal" but now people start complaining about high perk ppl ruining the games experience, which in a way is understandable. However this will split up the Killing Floor community.
If a lvl 3 joins suicidal most players will instantly call him a noob and will try to get him off the server. If I join a normal server to just relax from learning med stuff and play with "new players" I always have that problem beeing lvl 6, which I can't change.
When playing on a HOE server, there's always somone who will make a fatal mistake and the whole team dies. Which can be very frustrating (thus the hate for low level players). In Lan games however HOE is almost too easy and we menage almost every map in 1 or 2 attempts.
In a way this perking system is really nice but it seems to be splitting the community. Some folks even are getting hostile....
In the Kf mod such things never happened but now there's something like an unofficaial law on how to play the game. But such things always seem to happen once a game has a certain playerbase.
In my opinion everyone has the right to play on the difficulty he wants to.
Of course there are "show-off" players who just join a server to let the other players see how good they are. If they die (they often do), they will leave the server immediately.
If a lvl 3 joins suicidal most players will instantly call him a noob and will try to get him off the server. If I join a normal server to just relax from learning med stuff and play with "new players" I always have that problem beeing lvl 6, which I can't change.
When playing on a HOE server, there's always somone who will make a fatal mistake and the whole team dies. Which can be very frustrating (thus the hate for low level players). In Lan games however HOE is almost too easy and we menage almost every map in 1 or 2 attempts.
In a way this perking system is really nice but it seems to be splitting the community. Some folks even are getting hostile....
In the Kf mod such things never happened but now there's something like an unofficaial law on how to play the game. But such things always seem to happen once a game has a certain playerbase.
In my opinion everyone has the right to play on the difficulty he wants to.
Of course there are "show-off" players who just join a server to let the other players see how good they are. If they die (they often do), they will leave the server immediately.
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With your new edit/disclaimer at the bottom of your post I assume you aren't talking about one of my tricks (that I see a lot of others do): I am trying to level up berserker and firebug, so I'll join a normal server as level six sharpshooter, after the first wave I'll switch to berserker (or FB) and sell the xbow for some dosh.
I think your objection is to those lvl 6 who stay the whole game stealing kills and racking up the stats, correct?
Right on the nose
I hear what you are saying, I've been on a few servers like that. There is no end to the frustration as you try to level up and have no targets at all due to over-eager demi-gods.
For those of us with ****e computers/graphics cards, going up a difficulty level can really affect the fps, right? So keep that in mind aswell. The jump from Normal to Hard was very noticeable... at least for myself and another guy I play KF with. I
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My only response to that (while admittedly is not the most helpful) is if you haven't already rolled back the options to get some more fps out of it. Then its long past time to save up and get an upgrade.
We're well aware of that... but some of us can't spare the funds at the moment or have no interest in upgrading a computer at the moment. Just thought I'd bring it up because I don't think anybody has mentioned it.
Huh? Isn't Killing Floor by default limited to 32 zeds at once on the field? No matter which difficulty? I might be wrong.
This won't work on HoE or suicidal. I have witnessed countless games where a lvl 3 or 4 joins and gets promptly slaughtered, and screws the team. Not to mention even if they don't, they will burn up all their ammo, and still not be able to have the killrate of a lvl 6 needed for HoE. I have no problem at all with new players, but they can't hang on HoE, just not gonna happen.
Also, how would it be fun for low levels? Killing two clots and then dying from 3 gorefasts and watching everyone else play is not my idea of fun.
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I can understand being broke, but it is a matter of priorities. I will drive a crappy car and get my clothes at the Goodwill before I play on a comp that can't run my games adequately. I am in college and studying like crazy, so I can only play 30 hours a week or so, though.
For the car and clothes comment, thrift store clothes will do the exact same as name brand, my beat up station wagon does the same thing as an expensive car, it drives. But I can't play KF on a computer from 1995, it is all a matter of effectiveness.
I have a few lvl6 perks and still play on normal servers quite a bit. How else am I meant to get my lower level perks up? My demo is lvl4, my firebug 3, beserker only 2.
I'm trying to level them up, but i'll often play as a lvl 6 perk for a round or two to get a decent weapon and cash together so I can properly invest in the class I want to level.
I'll also switch to a lvl 6 if the team is really struggling to keep people alive. I try to play in a friendly way when I do, shooting only what needs to be killed, picking a class that no one else is and focussing on the key targets for that class.
Also I agree with someone's earlier comment - some days after a long day of work all I want is a relaxing game where I can just annihilate waves of specimens and revel in ZED time ragdolls and gore. When I do play lvl 6 on a normal server I tend to make friends, not upset people. Always a half dozen friend invites on steam from random encounters like those.
I'm trying to level them up, but i'll often play as a lvl 6 perk for a round or two to get a decent weapon and cash together so I can properly invest in the class I want to level.
I'll also switch to a lvl 6 if the team is really struggling to keep people alive. I try to play in a friendly way when I do, shooting only what needs to be killed, picking a class that no one else is and focussing on the key targets for that class.
Also I agree with someone's earlier comment - some days after a long day of work all I want is a relaxing game where I can just annihilate waves of specimens and revel in ZED time ragdolls and gore. When I do play lvl 6 on a normal server I tend to make friends, not upset people. Always a half dozen friend invites on steam from random encounters like those.
Just a little nit-picking here, I see demo 4 as totally suitable for Hard. Along with firebug 3 up to scrake waves - unless your team is set up for killing the big stuff, in which case it'd be fine. Berserker 2 is really the only one I'd play on normal in a.. normal situation.
Then again, after resetting your perks, it's very awkward to level up again. Skills for Suicidal, levels for Normal. I found sharpshooter 0-2 to be perfectly fine for Hard though, where demo and firebug were very underpowered in terms of damage and cost. (Admittedly my worst perks).
Pretty much this. I was playing hard with one friend as a level 4 firebug, him a medic, in Biotics Lab. From wave 2 onwards, new players would keep joining, accept our dosh with a rare "thanks", then proceed to get 10 kills, die, and leave without a word. My friend seemed to refuse to switch from medic after wave 5, though he just didn't hear me. Not easy to handle upwards of 100 specimens yourself in a corner as firebug. This is when a particular player showed up.
He took maybe $600 from each of us, as a low level commando, and bought berserker weapons. Alright, this is already looking bad. We head back to the spawn point, making sure our welds were intact (we had plans for escape, all that good stuff) and a couple more people join just as the trader closes. Oh, hell. Maybe one of them sticks with us, picking off zeds that are slipping by my flames, and covers me as I go to the other room and back for more ammo. The commando had run forward into the mob in a narrow hallway, cutting up maybe 5 specimens with a katana, then died. We barely managed to finish the wave, with the two new joiners having left already.
Scrake time.
He revives, we don't give him cash because we may need it later on, despite him saying "I need some money" a couple dozen times before and during the trader wave. This server didn't have kick voting. Wave starts, I'm telling my friend to help me out and switch to support or something, he doesn't notice it as he's in the trader, and we head back to our spot. Then we realize the commando is nowhere to be seen.
Wave starts, he dies, we manage to take out scrakes with a combination of fire, mac-10 to the face, and accurate LAR shots. Commando spawns again, heads to the trader, and buys a crossbow. My friend barely manages to switch to support in time, but doesn't buy any shotguns.
Immediately we hear an FP around the corner, and start kiting it, taking turns watching our backs. The commando runs right up to it, crouches, and shoots it in the face. Needless to say, it enraged, killed him in one hit (apparently his crossbow was more important than armor) then continues running towards us as he never stopped firing at the thing. I take a solid hit, nearly no armor left, dying, and we continue running. (Commando has 15 kills on the scoreboard and is still in the room, watching)
Down to 40 specimens left, good use of grenades, ammo boxes, armor spawns, etc, and we're pinched between a couple scrakes and an FP. We die quickly.
The commando says "gg" and leaves. He must've played for a total of 90 seconds, not counting trader time, and watched us kite for a good 15 minutes, and assisted us in 15 kills. This CANNOT have been fun for him, unless he's a griefer. Now, I will say this one time.
I do not approve of level 2s joining hard servers, especially if that's likely their best perk. When you play a game where you can level up, picking a high difficulty is utterly stupid. In a game like L4D, for example, there's no leveling. You're put into a map with guns and ammo spawns. The only variable is your knowledge of the game, and how good you are. Saying "oh, I'm up for a challenge, hard sounds great" in Killing Floor is just terrible. I constantly have to explain to newbies joining that suicidal means "suicidal for skilled, high leveled players", although that never works.
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