The community is one of the worst I've seen.....

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Moratinur

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Blatent idiocy. I call troll...

I am not a troll damnit and I stand by what I said. I had a better experience with coop play in campaign mode in L4D than in KF.

My theory: L4D is a pretty linear design and there is not much freedom and choices. In KF however you got a lot of freedom in what you do. That means that the other players can have a much deeper impact in your playing experience. Maybe that is why it seems worse, idk.

Also I am not saying KF has the worst community of all GAMES, as stated in my OP I was talking about COOP games.


4) Logging in on wave 9 or 10 and begging for money

I don't beg, I ask once nicely. If nobody gives anything then fine, but don't flame me when WE die.

Oh, and as for using the pistol, the 9mm is my main weapon, and I can tell you that it is nothing but a cash cow. Pistol ammo is dirt cheap and it generates tons of cash.

Kinda hard to believe, in the first few waves it might be a good weapon. But once people get the M14 and scar you got no chance of getting much kills.
 

omarfw

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Jun 13, 2009
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Kinda hard to believe, in the first few waves it might be a good weapon. But once people get the M14 and scar you got no chance of getting much kills.

the game is about killing hordes of zombies (specimens). if you aren't having fun because you aren't getting enough kills (or more then everyone else) then you're playing the game for the wrong reason. it's not a competitive game.
 

nutterbutter

FNG / Fresh Meat
Feb 8, 2010
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yes the SS is overpowered right now, but some people don't care about winning and efficiency, they care about having fun.

Did you read anything I typed? The reason for always logging in as SS, unless someone is lvl 5 in another class, is having perks with a spawned weapon.

What good is a lvl 3 flamer/commando/demo/whatever? No weapon and no perks so he is just about useless in generated money for the trader.

As I stated, once the person has the cash AT THE END OF THE LEVEL, he can always switch to what they want to play.
 

nutterbutter

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Kinda hard to believe, in the first few waves it might be a good weapon. But once people get the M14 and scar you got no chance of getting much kills.

lol. Dude, I only use pistols and almost always the 9mm. I only use cannons when I have to make a hole. XBow for scrakes and FP. I damn near always lead in kills even when I join 3 or 4 waves late. I don't run around looking for kills either. I just plan myself right in the middle and shoot stuff.

I don't barricade and I don't use the m14.

And before you think I am bragging, I'm not the only one. You probably have no idea how powerful the lever action rifle is either.
 

nutterbutter

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Feb 8, 2010
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You are exactly the kind of person who gives us a bad name >_<

Yeah, whatever. You don't know me nor have to ever played in a game with me.

Of course, you have no problem insulting people you know nothing about.
 
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Moratinur

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May 15, 2009
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the game is about killing hordes of zombies (specimens). if you aren't having fun because you aren't getting enough kills (or more then everyone else) then you're playing the game for the wrong reason. it's not a competitive game.

Kills > Money > Weapons > Armor = fun

I don't care how much I kill as long as we survive and I get to buy shiny stuff.

But I agree, people who only think about the scoreboard are a problem. That was my point from the beginning.


And before you think I am bragging, I'm not the only one. You probably have no idea how powerful the lever action rifle is either.

The lever action is powerful and always has been, I am not arguing that. And if you are happy using the 9mm then fine, I still find it hard to believe that you will get much money. (unless you are playing medic of course).
 

d_sparks

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 30, 2010
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I find it funny that you compare this to the "much better" l4d community. I quit playing l4d competitively and the l4d community (aside from *SOME* awesome people) is the most childish, egotistical, and asshole-ish community I've ever seen in a game.

Unfortunately every game community is going to have it's setbacks and there is going to be childish actions everywhere and there's nothing you can do about it. Best thing I've found is just get a group of people you're happy playing with and don't stray. Hell, we've gone so far as to password our server and only use it for our own use.

The few ''pub'' games I've played in, however, have not been bad experiences (with the exception of one or two but those guys were childish asshats). In fact, I've even made a few friends through some "pub" games and they've been invited to play on our server with us.

One of the most annoying things I have seen, though... Several times I'll go into a suicidal game...and some lvl 0's will join and beg and beg for money, and if they don't get what they want, they start griefing... -_-
 

-[SiN]-bswearer

FNG / Fresh Meat
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i play to beat the map. i got my perks all to 5 before the levelup update; after the update all but 2 went automatically to level6. i had all the achievements before the update, got all of the added non-map achievements and all of the map achievements but a few suicidal maps within the first two days after the update. took about another 2 or 3 weeks to get all the stock maps beat on suicidal. anyway the reason why i say this is because even before the levelup update, i really stopped caring about my own personal achievements and stats. since then i've played only to have fun with friends and clanmates and lend my skills to help anyone beat maps on suicidal. for me that's my fun.

i never care if i get the most kills, or the most money but i play to keep the team alive and win the map. if i happen to kill the most cool beans. if i earn a lot of money, awesome, i give it all away to others. i will buy weapons for other players in the class i'm using if they are lower levels, so long as they give me some extra money to do it. waves 1-3 i'll suicide three times to give extra weapons for people to sell since i can respawn with new weapons, full armour and if timed correctly, all my money earned from the last wave.

i say all this because i know there's a lot of other people who play like i do. if anyone really keeps having bad luck with idiot players in servers, please, just add me as a friend on steam. i've got a lot of friends that play KF the right way and would be happy to keep you company. KF has some great people, you just have to find them and get connected with them.
 

omarfw

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Jun 13, 2009
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Did you read anything I typed? The reason for always logging in as SS, unless someone is lvl 5 in another class, is having perks with a spawned weapon.

What good is a lvl 3 flamer/commando/demo/whatever? No weapon and no perks so he is just about useless in generated money for the trader.

As I stated, once the person has the cash AT THE END OF THE LEVEL, he can always switch to what they want to play.

the game is supposed to be difficult. purposefully choosing a more difficult route money wise is not stupid. though you're allowed to think so. some would say it's more fun since it's more challenging to have less money.
 

CandleJack

FNG / Fresh Meat
Dec 2, 2009
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rambo medics=kicked

People need to get cash for playing their perk... AKA, support needs to get cash for multi-kills, demo for gibs, SS for headshots, commando for stalkers, zerker for interception kills (zeds that are attacking a different player), and medics for healing people.

You would not BELIEVE what i did yesterday as medic.

I got the imaginary "pacifist" achievement.

I went through a suicidal/long game on westlondon without getting a single kill, as medic. This meant that i relied on others to get the kills. I still had plenty of cash just from winning the wave to patch up the 1-10 pound armour cost.

If all medics tried to get this imaginary achievement then teamwork becomes vital. And it's fun to try and get.
 

nutterbutter

FNG / Fresh Meat
Feb 8, 2010
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the game is supposed to be difficult. purposefully choosing a more difficult route money wise is not stupid. though you're allowed to think so. some would say it's more fun since it's more challenging to have less money.

Really? That is your argument? That it is a more fun completely ignoring the perks. Yeah, OK.


Wow.
 

Undedd Jester

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 31, 2009
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Now don't take this the wrong way nutter, because I consider myself a rather passive fellow... but you do realise alot of arguements tend to build up after your posts don't you?

Just ease off the aggression and finger pointing dude, use a little diplomacy expressing your view and you might even have a laugh rather than finding half the community tearing at your throat all the time.

Just a thought :)

PS. Under level 5 perks other than SS are useful. Berserker is a good perk to join in as due to speed + knife damage plus a number of his weapons can be found in the map, medic gives you speed, healing and discount on armour at the end of the wave before you switch to your main class, support can quite happily weld a door and keep it shut, even in later waves. There are perks that have alternative boosts that offer different benefits to the player. Plus the SS originally never had the pistol as part of his perk, and he will also be nerfed in the future, you can count on that. The point its down to the players skill, not what perk they pick.

Someone isn't an idiot if they choose to play a class that doesn't offer them a real benefit upon spawn, they might be looking for a challenge, or simply they identify themselves as that perk and want to stay as that perk no matter what. Your post should have been directed at people who are just poor at the game, and not poor as in new, poor as in idiotic. Its people who are bad players and keep demanding money that should be the target. Just another thought :)

From your friendly neighbourhood J* :D
 
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Temstar

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 21, 2009
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There are plenty of reason why you would spawn as a non-sharpshooter Level 1-4:

Medic: uber speed, powerful healing with the syringe (you know, what everyone had to use before MP7M), if he finds armour he'll be very tough

Berserker: speed, knife, melee weapon spawn often for him

Support: welding, shotgun can spawn, can collect masses of weapons for loadsamoney next round due to high weight limit

Commando: global weapon reload time decrease, can see HP bar in the dark/smoke (very useful on some maps)

Firebug: fire grenades, Husk blocking

Demo: very powerful grenades
 

Deafmute

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 22, 2009
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knee deep in pussy.
Really? That is your argument? That it is a more fun completely ignoring the perks. Yeah, OK.


Wow.

Jesus christ, calm down dude. There's no reason to be so aggressive, every one of your posts so far has been unnecessarily abrasive. It's no way to conduct a debate if you want people to take you seriously.
 

!_Zombie_!

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jul 5, 2009
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Am I lucky or just ignorant?

In about 200 hours of KF I've never encountered more than 2 games where someone was griefing.

In 20 or so hours in L4D2 I've never encoutered unpleasant people. I know this is significantly lower, but I enjoy both communities for both games. I also always have friends to play with if I so wish it.
 

Reaper420

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jan 12, 2010
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Lebanon, Oregon
Its people who are bad players and keep demanding money that should be the target. Just another thought :)

Ah hell yeah. That's driving me nuts. People bustin' in during wave 2/3 begging for money like I didn't just get started. Especially drives me nuts on suicidal. We already get weak pay, plus people wanna beg too?