The cause of RedOctoberFactory and Barracks crashes

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throumbas

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As people have realized, having shadows to low causes crashes on these two maps. What this does in ROEngine.ini is to set "DynamicShadows=False", I've tested it a lot today this is what's causing the crashes. The reason someone would want to have that as false is that it removes the shadows that soldiers cast, a pretty small graphic difference that will give you 20fps EASILY. You can test this on GrainElevator, it makes a big difference. You can also try "LightEnvironmentShadows=False" which removes all shadows from the map but that will crash the game in the splash screen. They might be related.

If you crash in GrainElevator too, and at random times, try turning down texture quality to medium or low. The thing is, if you have a 32bit operating system, it doesn't matter how much video card memory or RAM you have. Most engines these days are made with console limitations in mind, the engine can't fathom running out of memory when it's running the same system on all users (consoles), so when it does run out of memory, there's no warning, no backup, just a crash with a useless non-descriptive error, sometimes a blue screen, or a black screen. If that happens, don't try to run the game again before restarting your computer, the graphics card is already screwed, and will give you more and different problems when you run the game after the crash.

So my advice is, have shadows and texture quality to medium, this should fix the widespread crashes. For anything else, it's probably something more obscure related to your system.
 
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Dionysos

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Wow the dynamic shadow thingy fixed the crashing for me! No more crash on artillery/grenades. It was off for some reason, even though I didn't have shadows on low (had it on high).
 

throumbas

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Guys, I've been tweaking an ini tonight that is a mix to fix crashes and to improve performance. To use this replace the old one and in game set your settings for low shadows and medium textures, these arent the same settings that the game sets, they are modified. So the low shadows setting wont crash the game, it gets the same performance as the old Low shadows setting without the crash. Theres also a bunch of other stuff from the forums that can fix crashes and some texture loading modifications. If you're crashing give this file a go. You can delete it to revert to the default settings or backup your own file first.

[url]http://www.mediafire.com/?gae1bgm6gxzmtmt[/URL]
 

Gudenrath

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I just crashed on Grain Elevator with shadows set to "high" (on Windows 7). :(

So it's not a fix-all, even though the number of crashes has certainly diminished.
 

throumbas

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I just crashed on Grain Elevator with shadows set to "high" (on Windows 7). :(

So it's not a fix-all, even though the number of crashes has certainly diminished.

Try the ini I posted, set shadows to low, and textures to medium, even if they are set at those settings, drag the slider left and right and then reselect the correct settings. Restart before doing this.
 

Maj.Faux-Pas

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Worked! I just played Barracks for the first time without some stupid memory leak or bluescreen. Thanks!
I didn't have to change the sliders, but I did have to change audio to 32 channels and adjust the display resolution.
 

plsiwannaplay

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guys i tried to make thread but the censoring bastards wont accept it and put it on the forum

i load fine and get to the game but im stuck on a view of the battlefield like spectator mode, cant join teams cant even go back to menu cant do anything HELP PLEASE
 

Maj.Faux-Pas

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guys i tried to make thread but the censoring bastards wont accept it and put it on the forum

i load fine and get to the game but im stuck on a view of the battlefield like spectator mode, cant join teams cant even go back to menu cant do anything HELP PLEASE

I think that there are threads concerning that issue. Use the search function. Try the bug forum too.
 

Oo.k.

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Thanks for this, not sure what you changed in the .ini file but it works great.

:D:D:D
 

tracerbullet101

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Downloaded and replaced my INI with the one in this thread, so far so good. I was working earlier in the day when I upgraded to the Steam Client beta, as well as turning off Dynamic shadows, game worked for a bit then crashed.

This INI file has got me up and running again for now! Much thanks.
 

wazups2x

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As people have realized, having shadows to low causes crashes on these two maps. What this does in ROEngine.ini is to set "DynamicShadows=False", I've tested it a lot today this is what's causing the crashes.

I disabled DynamicShadows and went from 20-30 FPS on Utra settings with ambient occlusion enabled to an almost 40-50 FPS.
 
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Efstratios

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What about the DynamicShadows setting in the ROCompat.ini file? My DynamicShadows is set to True in the ROEngine.ini but set to FALSE in the ROCompat.ini.
 

Dionysos

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This is getting weirder and weirder for me, I think I give up for a while. Before I tried your ini, I had about 30-40 FPS on barracks during normal play and 20 during stressed scenes. After reverting back to my own I barely get above 30, and even on grain elevator (which was great before) I only barely get up to 40 indoors.
 
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Kiwi-NZ

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What CPU do you got? I have a 5870 and I get a lot less than that... though I haven't tried out the full ini yet.

I have used the "full" .ini, tweaking bit by bit with other hints was not helping.
My CPU is a PhenomII x4 955

Reffer my previous attached settings (Picture) so that you can see clearly which options I have selected.
 

Gudenrath

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Try the ini I posted, set shadows to low, and textures to medium, even if they are set at those settings, drag the slider left and right and then reselect the correct settings. Restart before doing this.

I tried it, and unfortunately I crashed on Grain Elevator after having played two rounds and only 2 mins left of the last round.

Here's the dump file (in case any devs are interested):

[url]http://www.multiupload.com/GCK2TI7GNT[/URL]
 

Gudenrath

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Been playing several rounds of Grain Elevator as well as Barracks today, and I have yet to crash. Perhaps it is working after all. :)
 

throumbas

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Been playing several rounds of Grain Elevator as well as Barracks today, and I have yet to crash. Perhaps it is working after all. :)

Whats your OS and ram? Random crashes like that are caused by setting textures to too high a setting, and/or having something else taking up too much memory, like antivirus or antimalware.
 

Dionysos

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I have very seldom, random, crashes, but 8GB of RAM and not nearly all is used. I think the random crashes are rather game/driver etc related.
 
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