the ability to shoot through tank veiw slits

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Rak

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I remember a scene in saving private ryna in which US soldier unloaded thomson magazine into a tiger through driver "window". Was it realistic or just an hollywood crap ?

It's just a hollywood crap. There's no way you can shoot through those slits as they are protected by a very thick armored glass. Some say it even withstands some small caliber of AT projectiles :)

Also, you should search, thread starter. There has been 100x threads about this.
 

Sieg

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TBH as soon as i saw the thread title i thought " Oh dear, another poor devil who believes everything that happens in Saving Private Ryan must be absolutely authentic". :rolleyes:
 

Letum

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If you look at the "tiger" in SPR, at one point, they have a piece of wood with a painted-on drivers viewport... mildly amusing.

Thats because they used T-34s with a wooden frame round to make it look like a tiger.

Take a look at the tracks.
 

SgtH3nry3

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Thats because they used T-34s with a wooden frame round to make it look like a tiger.

Take a look at the tracks.
It was a T55.

You can even recognize it by it's distinct V-55 V12 diesel engine which sounds rather like a huge companycar engine. :D


And not to forget the roadwheels which aren't properly aligned, also the tank itself was higher because the T-55 was not as heavy as the Tiger tank and had it's engine placed lower for a lower point of gravity.
 

Heinz

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not in german tanks http://ourworld.compuserve.com/Homepages/willphelps/Album0000023.htm

The contraption you see before you is the driver's visor, or "window", along with the mechanism that opens and closes the armored shutter located outside. This model of visor, the "Fahrersehklappe 50", was first introduced with the Ausf. F1.
The shutter can be closed to give the driver extra protection. He might then rely on a set of KFF-2 twin periscopes to see the road...or lack thereof! The periscopes would ordinarily peer out through two little holes above the driver's visor. But, starting around January 1943 (late Ausf. G), the periscopes were left out. This is the case here.

the photos of that exact MkIV, in that exact location, are from a tank museum that used to be in Mattituck, Long Island (NY, USA). I spent alot of Sunday mornings and afternoons there, and spoke with the owner. He acquired that tank from Syria.

Apparently, he traced it back to post-war france (apparently, during the war, it was in service with Vichy French forces). From there is was sold in the late 1940s/early 1050s to Syria.

He and his team unearthed it from the sand and had it shipped to the US, after purchasing it from Syria. I forget what he paid. I remember him to be rather eccentric. A short guy with firey red hair. He wore twin pearl-handled revolvers while he strode around the place.

He had thousands of small arms, and uniforms as well. what an awesome place. he finally moved the whole kit and kaboodle down south. Not sure where. It's a loss for us here in the northeast USA, that's for sure. :(
 

USMC_Recruit

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I remember a scene in saving private ryna in which US soldier unloaded thomson magazine into a tiger through driver "window". Was it realistic or just an hollywood crap ?


I couldn't believe what i was seeing the first time i saw that movie. The .45 ACP is not a penetrator, i could see someone out of desparation firing a Browning .50 cal at the driver's viewport, but not a .45, no friggen way. Grunts are smart enough to know better.
 

Crim

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which was directly followed by a pair of P-51s flying overhead, along with the explanation that they were "tank-busters."

Pro-hint: it was the planes that blew the tank up, not the pistol.

vvv just making sure.
 
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piller

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well I never knew that there was glass there. Theres nothing in the game to suggest glass is preasent. If you have that much bullet proof glass in that density theres bound to be some discoloration or view distortion, especially back when most pieces of glass were no more than 2 square feet.
 

Sgt._Geist

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Crim the clown car gunner is not invinciable all you have to do is cook a grenade and throw it over him........ it will kill him instantly.........

same for poeple in a HT..... boom all dead..

But then again......there is WW2 footage of seeing american flamethrowers shooting into the tank slots............

seeing the hatch open up and germans come running out on fire as they get mowed down by garrands....

So therefore where is the damn flamethrower in the game........ I wana be able to shoot a German with one and watch him burst into flames..... how SWEET would that be....
 

Colt .45 killer

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is this type of glas on all tanks , or did the ruskies have their own glass or was there none, because i remember seeing something about the t34 and seeing inside it, at one part the owner was driving it and you were sorta looking at his face/viewport and it dident look like there was glass there, especially when some water and mud splashed up the front armor and onto him...(it came thru the viewport as i remember...
 

Crim

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Crim the clown car gunner is not invinciable all you have to do is cook a grenade and throw it over him........ it will kill him instantly.........

same for poeple in a HT..... boom all dead..

I know for a fact that grenades will never kill the gunner of a BA-64, as I've thrown many grenades at many BA-64s and have yet to kill anyone but the driver.
 

[5.SS]Strother

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Yeah and I've cooked many grenades and threw them over top the halftrack without killing anyone except the gunner and driver, the passangers NEVER get hurt, in fact one time I was in a halftrack and I got it stuck on an incline and my motor was shot out (it was a good 45 degree angle or more) and I was swarmed by Russians. So I switched to the passanger seat so I could look in 3rd person view and I saw about 6 Russians firing DIRECTLY at me and not even harming me, they were all like WTF and they started giving up untill my Halftrack took to many bullets and exploded :confused: :rolleyes:
 

Gomer Pyle

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It was a good story and I think you'd like it. I'll keep looking.
Wow, I didn't realize this thread had gotten so old. The tank commander was Fritz Langanke. I had a couple facts a little wrong but not by much. I found his story on the Das Reich web page. www.dasreich.ca

Here are the three parts of his story they had there. I found them extremely interesting and I think the tanker folks here will like them too.

http://www.dasreich.ca/fritz_anec1.html
http://www.dasreich.ca/fritz_anec2.html
http://www.dasreich.ca/fritz_anec3.html
 

Silky_Slim

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I don't know if this is possible, correct me if i'm wrong, but can't you "blind" the view slits by pumping out high caliber rounds at it? The bullets would get stuck in the glass or crack, splinter the outer layer thus distorting the view?

like this:
bulletshot.jpg


I know that the view slits would have much thicker protection, but wouldn't the outer most layer still be effected?