Terrible Tragedy In Norway

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Kashash

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I can't believe that the German media is grabbing this up to heat up the hype against "killer games" again. :rolleyes:

Well like people wouldn't be better in this world if violent computer games didn't exist? Definitely less introverts that's one.
 

Vintage

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Video games have absolutely nothing to do with any violent crimes. To imply that this man murdered 90 people because of video games is pathetic. He murdered people because he is an unstable lunatic. Do not allow him to use video games as an excuse for murdering people.
 
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Kashash

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>implying

Just saying you can't deny games generally are waste off time and you'd better off be reading some books which are much more productive, with positive effect activity. I'm not referring this to the killer at all though, you have to be obviously insane to do stuff like that and not saying it's a game fault. But the world would be better and smarter without games, perhaps less murdering,crimes would happen.
 
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Vintage

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@Kashash, the violence caused by books far outweighs any violence that could ever even be remotely attributed to video games.

See: The Bible and the Quran.

There have been countless murders due to these two books alone. I doubt someone would say the world would be better off without books though.

Side comment not directed at Kashash: If anyone tries to use this man's mass murder for fuel to crusade against video games they are a horrible, horrible person. Exploiting the murders of 90 people to push any form of agenda is wrong. Full stop.
 
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Kashash

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@Kashash, the violence caused by books far outweighs any violence that could ever even be remotely attributed to video games.

See: The Bible and the Quran.

There have been countless murders due to these two books alone. I doubt someone would say the world would be better off without books though.

These are not just normal books these are a tool of a religion rather than typical science/novel/fiction book which have good impact on people and have much more profound conveyance than full of frivolity games which basically make people stupid.
Religions have been known to be a product of some cruel deeds though.
 
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MrLebanon

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*ignorant comment, edited out - my apologies*
Peace,

And my condolences to those who have passed and their families
 
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Vintage

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Edit to clarify previous post:

My previous post was not intended as an attack on anyone's beliefs. It was merely an example that people will twist anything they can to justify their actions.
 
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MrLebanon

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My apologies, I read it the wrong way

You're right. People will use anything to develop their own twisted conclusions.
 

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No problem, I could have been more careful with my wording. You are right that people will use anything to develop their own twisted conclusions, which is why it bothers me that people are disgusting enough to take advantage of a psycho murdering 90 people to push their agenda on others. When something like this happens the first thing people do shouldn't be to take advantage of the victims' deaths. It is disrespectful.
 

MrLebanon

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exactly

it becomes a blame game that everyone uses politically to push their own agendas

The victims just become a tool for the big guys
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/world/roofer-hailed-a-hero-after-norway-island-rescue-20110726-1hxq5.html

I immediately suspected that there was a connection to the attack in Oslo. I know the difference between fireworks and gunfire. I knew what it was about," Mr Gleffe, who was described in media reports as having a military background, told Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet. "In such a situation, you don't think at all," he told Der Spiegel.

"There were people swimming everywhere in the water. I threw them lifejackets and pulled those into the boat who were having the most trouble. Everyone was screaming, but they were also helping each other."
Mr Gleffe brought his boat as close to the shore of Utoya island as he could and kept an eye out for Breivik - whom he had earlier spotted through his binoculars.

He was initially puzzled as to why some of the youths were frightened of him when he tried to rescue them, with some screaming' don't come too close' or 'do you want to kill us', but later found out that Breivik, while dressed in a policeman's uniform, had called the youths to come to him before he fired on them.

Mr Gleffe made about four or five boat trips and pulled up to 30 people out from the water. Together with other campers, they rescued a total of 150 people from the island.
 
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Mormegil

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Terrible tragedy. It's strange and sad how this seems to hit home much more than when similar fatality numbers come out of the Middle East from suicide bombings. I guess it has a harder impact because we don't expect it there.

Something I'm curious about. How did the death count go down? It's now in the 70's down from 93.
 

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No wonder the right-wing are trying to paint this as the fault of "violent" video games.

They are clutching at straws, trying to get attention away from the fact that it was their sick hate propaganda and conspiracy theories about "Eurabia/EUSSR" and Socialism that made this guy go nuts in the first place.

Edit; just saw this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler
FFS america, when will you incarcarate this guy for hate speech?
 
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REZ

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Yeah, I was watching Keith Olbermann on Current TV and he showed a clip of this sh!tbag saying those things about the kids. He's worse than low-class, he has no class. He's one of Rupert Murdochs' hate mongering puppets who's job it is is to brainwash the uninformed, undereducated, scared, and easily malleable among us.

He's one of those unintended consequences of American style free-speech.