Tanking; and 'one-man-tanking' in ROHOS - hopefully with a POLL

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Tanking; and 'one-man-tanking' in ROHOS - hopefully with a POLL

  • One-man tank is unrealistic and should made impossible.

    Votes: 15 12.4%
  • One-man tank is too much fun to remove, it also requires skill.

    Votes: 26 21.5%
  • The changing of tank roles should be slowed. Or some other way to give a tank-TEAM an advantage

    Votes: 62 51.2%
  • One-man tanking should be possible in Relaxed Realism mode, and not/nerfed in Full Realism mode

    Votes: 18 14.9%

  • Total voters
    121

Calumhm

Active member
Jul 22, 2009
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This is about when, especially in maps like Arad and Orel, (if thats the huge tank map i'm thinking of) single players drive off in a tank and perform gunner, driver and even MG roles all on their own.

There usually isn't much disadvantage to this tactic, and it's annoying to have your whole tank team of two or three men killed by one guy.

So here's a poll for the devs to jot notes from.
 

GfrSeifter

FNG / Fresh Meat
Dec 29, 2007
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Austria
1-man-tank is not realistic, clear. but so many ppl just dont have a clue how to drive or shoot or coordinate in a tank together (speaking about public)
therefore i avoid being in a tank with other players on a public server

but my point of view is that this question is not the most important about tanking in RO.
the problems about the tanks in OST are known, i hope at least.
 

Calumhm

Active member
Jul 22, 2009
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Plymouth, England
Also, I'm sure a lot of people know about it; but when you one-man-tank you can keep switching in and out of gunner position to make the game automatically load the next shell without you actually staying in the gunner seat.

Presumably this is just a bug, and won't be there in RO:HOS anyway, which will make it a little more difficult to one-man-tank
 

[5GTA] Juan

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 18, 2008
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Ebro Front
www.clantoro-ro.wesped.es
I understand that 1man tanking is neccessary to kkep a number of tanks moving through the battlefield when servers are not full, but I see no advantage of a 2man tank, at least in public game.
I ask to slow place sifting inside the tank.
 

SturmSS

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 31, 2007
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I would prefer if it were more realistic with a normal two man crew but the commands need to be a lot better - oh and of course people need to be willing to listen. Many a time have I spammed the tank voice command "Stop!" but to no avail...
 

Private Who?

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 18, 2006
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Texas
mine was a toss-up between the 2nd and 3rd options. I don't think single-player tanking should be eliminated. That would make it too hard to start tanking servers. Say you had ten guys....that's 5v5. If you have a two crew minimum before your tank would move, it becomes a 3v2 game with less action, at least until the server starts to fill more. And even then you will have fewer targets to shoot at.

I don't mind tanking by myself, and I don't even mind someone hopping in with me if they would just listen. Sometimes they do. Mostly I try to drive off by myself, but that's just due to the fact that most pubbers (including myself on occasion :eek: ) are idiots when it comes to communication in a tank.

That said, it is definitely a better experience when you have a two man crew really working together. [TxM] ChrisT and I used to make a pretty good team, with him as commander and me as driver/MG. It's best though when we can get in Teamspeak and use that as our 'local' comms channel.
 

Apos

FNG / Fresh Meat
Dec 3, 2007
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The changing of tank roles should be slowed. Or some other way to give a tank-TEAM an advantage

Option number 3# is most fair. Tank operated by 2-3 players should have faster reload time/could drive and shoot in same time/etc*. Team play should be the most important thing in RO:HoS.

I really hate Bad Company 2/Modern Warfare 2 point of view where one guy can operate tank, plant bomb and win whole match by self. But well, these game are for console casual players, RO:HoS is for fps PC players only.

*) all based on historical data, not super 1337 perks like reduce rld time to 50%, boost damage to 125% etc.
 

Flogger23m

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 5, 2009
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I generally take my own tank because no one else is willing to cooperate.

That, or they don't speak English.
 

O'Shannon

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 18, 2006
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Germany
i would even go further and say you should be able to lock your tank, so no other Teammate can get in.

--> team tanking is almost impossible on public server(most people lag skill or better said knowledge how to angle ect.)
--> only chance to get good tankteamplay is with VOIP.

dont get me wrong... i would welcome a 3manOnly tank system but only with a proper solution to report enemies (as driver/mg to the gunner,and vice versa) and offline "enemy spotting and reporting" and "and how to play tanks" Trainings which are required to play tanks online ...
 
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Capt.Cool

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jan 5, 2010
777
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Sky high
I generally take my own tank because no one else is willing to cooperate.

where have you played? ;) There are enough good tankers out there, you just have to give them a chance.
I have the problem with selfish guys who take a tank alone and if you enter they yell at you: "Get out of MY tank!" :rolleyes:
 

EvilHobo

Grizzled Veteran
Dec 22, 2005
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Single manned tanks can be thought of as a well coordinated, fully crewed tank with whatever role assumed by the player to be thought of as simply another perspective (another member of the crew). The idea of a single crewmember whether teleporting or climbing around inside of the tank is absurd. I furthermore feel that these additional simulated crew members should be factored in to the damage model and if a penetration causes a projectile to pass through one of these simulated crewmembers then their position should be denied to the player unless another one is moved in to that position.
 

VariousNames

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 6, 2009
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IMO....option 3 and 4.

4 is a good idea, and preserves the game's integrity for both camps.

3 is the bare minimum. Instant switching of tank roles is stupid and needs to go. Realistic switching times, please, or an approximation of them.
 

Zetsumei

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Nov 22, 2005
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Singlehanded tanking should be possible. However 2, 1 man tanks should not be better than a 2 man tank. So i would prefer some balancing, to make switching position go with some animation/time delay (either moving around in a tank or looking through the eyes of another tanker in the tank).

So that its possible to tank alone, however that if you tank with 2 people you get some sort of a worthwhile advantage. Currently the only advantage with 2 people is the faster reload time (which is exploitable as a 1 man tanker) and that you can move your gun while driving. Beside that the engine keeps running if your driver doesnt go to the mg slot making aiming actually harder with a 2 man team.

So what i would like to see is that getting in a tank and out a tank takes some time, and that switching position takes some time. So 2 man tanks become a more viable option. Currently having 2 tanks individually controlled is far more advantagous than having a one man tank with 2 people inside.
 
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D3terioNation

FNG / Fresh Meat
Dec 15, 2005
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The problem in the past was the difference in reload speed was so minor between a crewed tank and a solo one that it didnt really matter!

The benefits in teaming up should be drastic and not subtle!
 

=GG= Mr Moe

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 16, 2006
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You can't eliminate single player tanking for a number of reasons. I thought the 3rd option was the best for encouraging players to team up. :)
 

Mr Milkman

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 10, 2009
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I seriously hate tanking with other people unless they are a friend, it gets too frustrating when they are too busy strafing in the air giving ur position away or just doing donuts in the tank.... I wish they would implement central locking so I can keep the gimps outa me ride! :p