Strong PC- Low fps??

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PaLi

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Hello,
I finally bought a new pc and its very good I get great fps in other games but in RO I get about 60-80, sometimes 40.

my PC:

Gigabyte Geforce 8800GT 512MB
Core 2 Quad Q6600 overclocked
2GB Ram


I should get at least 100 fps in this game!

Whats going on?
 
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First of all, I think it is capped at 85fps for multiplayer, so it shouldn't go higher.

You also have the same system (mostly) as me and while I get around 85fps on most maps, others do drop lower due to optimization, view distance, things going on in the map etc. It sound like you are around just what you should be to me....:)
 
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fiftyone

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You may get more in practice mode but for on-line play thats about right.
Put everything on super-max and you may well have the same fps.
Disable mouse lag/smoothing maybe.
 
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PaLi

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Cause I actually saw that the 8800gt cards have some problems with the RO engine...
 
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C.J.B.17

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you could also turn Vsync off in nvidia control panel. That always has gotton me more FPS.
 
Murphy

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Read what V-Sync does and decide on your own...

Not meant as an offense, man, but if you SEE you get less frames per second than your monitor is set to then you should obviously disable V-Sync. In that case - apart from causing mouselag and cutting your framerate down - it can't do anything anyway since you don't even reach the cap is supposed to enforce.

Regardless of speed, the 8800 cards are known to have problems with RO's engine. I guess you can blame nvidia for it because it seems to be a driver problem. The end result is that you get crappy fps values in some spots on some maps. There isn't much you can do about that other than to throw away all your weapons, because someone seems to have found out that the bug is somehow related to the first person weapon models. :p
 
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fiftyone

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Depends on what type of monitor you use.

I just picked this of the internetz, its the basics.
Most games disable it by default, some recommend disabling in the gpu driver settings.
The key word is tearing, not to be confused with lagging.
LCD monitors are set at 60mhz, so in theory you should be capped at 60 fps but as we all know "life ain't what it seems to be" (thats me that wrote).

Vsync matches your monitors refresh rate/frequency, with a 3D applications frame rate.

In other words, It doesn't let your frame rate go above your monitors refresh rate. 85 Hz. = 85 FPS
100 Hz. = 100 FPS
and so on. (That was iternet that wrote).

Disable in the Nvidia control panel and in the in-game options and report back.
Vsync will bring your fps to a lower rate depending on the application fluency but at the same time will give a smoother less jittery image...I think :p

@ Murphy: Its not only RO as you know already, it seems more prominent in XP than Vista but that is also open to debate, I am waiting for final SP1(vista) & SP3 for XP. It seems that things are looking optomistic at the very least.
On a personnel note , all this bullocks is holding me back from upgrading my computer (at the same time that of my boys, "come on Dad give us your vid, I wanna play Assassins Creed" as it should be played).
Danzig is special I tell thee, I know I was there.

Thanks...
 
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Murphy

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V-Sync synchonizes your monitor with your graphics card in that it caps the graphics cards framerate at the framerate of the monitor.

If your card renders faster than your monitor can display you will get shown half frames, which means that the upper part of the image is already updated but the lower part is not etc. If you move fast or turn fast this means that the upper part of the screen and the lower part of the screen are a frame off so a wall or any other vertical line seems to be cut in two disaligned halves.

By capping the framerate to the refreshrate of the monitor this is prevented and you only get full frames. So no image tearing.

However if your framerate falls below the refreshrate v-sync can have undesirable results. For once it is known to cause mouselag, and it also has an impact on your framerate as it tries to cut it down to half of the refreshrate to do it's job at that rate instead of the original one. If you have even lower framerates it cuts it in half again and so and so forth. It only cuts in halves. No thirds or anything.

Soooo: If your framerate is above the refreshrate of your monitor you can either be happy your computer is performing so well and live with the bit of tearing, or you can romp up some settings just for the heck of it, like absurd amounts of AA or AF or you can cap it down to the refresh rate via V-Sync.

If your framerate is below your refreshrate there is no need for V-Sync, because it can't do what it should do and it doesn't need to do what it should do because what it is there for to prevent can not occur.:p

Disabling it won't fix your problem since it isn't speed but bug related but it might help you save a few frames that would otherwhise be eaten by the v-sync.

Oh, another thing: If your refreshrate happens to be 85 you don't need v-sync anyway since RO is capped at 85 frames anyway (only online) and without the probable disadvantages of v-sync too!
 
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fiftyone

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Murphy, stop editing yer posts, would yer now !
can't keep up wit yer, lol.
 
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PaLi

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Look Murphy I didn't realy understand what you were trying to say {also cause my English is bad}, once you said that I should turn off the Vsync and then you said I shouln't cause it won't help...

But it seems that in an online game the MAXIMUM OF THE FPS IS 85,
Cause even in the smallest map wile I am looking at the sky the FPS is 85, so Is there a command in the console like in other games to MAXIMIZE IT?

And please tel me more about the Vsync thing, but clearly- Should I disable it or enable it?
BY THE WAY: I tried to disable it, the frameas were still 85 like before.

[some people say tha tthey get 80-120 FPS, so I should get the same... its a damn strong machine men!!]
 
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As stated, I think it has to do with being online/multiplayer, 85 fps is the max in an online server. I dont' think that this is user changeable. You can do things to increase your fps if it is lower, but it should cap at 85. Somewhere in here, maybe around a year ago, there was an actual explanation for this, but I don't remember where it was.

If you were to go and do the maps in practice, your fps will jump higher than that as it is not capped at 85.
 
Murphy

Murphy

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PaLi said:
[some people say tha tthey get 80-120 FPS, so I should get the same... its a damn strong machine men!!]
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If you want to see how well your system performs you have to run a test match offline in practice mode. The framerate isn't capped there.

Online it is capped at 85 fps but you shouldn't worry about that since it is more than enough. There is no way to "de-cap" it either since it isn't arbitrary but it is there for a reason, namely to reduce the stress the server has with keeping the clients in sync.

As for V-Sync: What I meant to say is: Disable it. There is no need to keep it ON if your framerate is lower than the rate at which you would want to cap it with it and in fact it can even be bad if you still leave it on.

Your framerate going down to forty will not be fixed by disabling v-sync. You should do that for other reasons, which are mentioned already. Your framerate going down is due to an issue your graphicscard has with the engine RO uses and there is no way to fix it yet.
You will just have to live with that.

On the bright side: 40 frames per second isn't bad. If you wouldn't see the numbers you wouldn't even notice that it is "low". So my advice to you is to disable anything that displays your framerate (stat fps command, fraps, or whatever you are using) and to trust your eyes more.

If you eyes can't see stuttering, there is no stuttering. If your eyes can see stuttering, there is stuttering.;)
 
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