Some things bump mapped, others not?

[oscar.nein]

UC2 runs on UE2X. It's a special xbox version of the engine. I don't know for sure if they're using normal mapping though.

UE2.5 does not support normal mapping. I can only think of one game that uses UE2.5 and supports normal mapping and it is very heavily modified game. (I'm not talking Bioshock)

 

[SgtH3nry3]

There always is the Vengeance engine, but it's extremely expensive due to the implementation of the Havok engine...
Isn't it possible to "acquire" bits of the Vengeance engine without the Havok part?

 

[Innociv]

Ah.. Yeah it does have bump mapping. But yeah it's UE2x . I didn't know there was such a big difference between them.

I still wish for getting bump mapping added to the engine, even if it isn't used, so modders can use it.

 

[oscar.nein]

Well it's not going to happen, so drop it.

 

[Innociv]

You can't squash my dreams ;[

 

[mistk�fer]

he can and he just did

 

[Innociv]

For some reason bump mapping is listed on the normal ue2 page too. http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/Legacy:Unreal_Engine_Versions/2

>Direct3D 8 and OpenGL 1.x support
>Hardware shader support for vertex shader and pixel shader
>Improved texture compression
>Environment mapped bump mapping and cube mapping
>Weighted skeletal animation
>Smooth-skinned geometry(skinning animation)
>Facial animation support (including lip syncing)
>Large scale terrain support
>Seamless mixing of indoor BSP meshes, static meshes, dynamic meshes, and terrain meshes
>High resolution 2048x2048 size texture support

I know all the other things are right.. weird.

 

[Yoshiro]

It's because that list incorporates 2x and doesn't list it as a seperate build of the engine.

 

[Murphy]

Isn't Deus Ex 2 based on UE2.5 and not UE2.X? Deus Ex 2 has bump-mapping. While it isn't a default component of the engine it appearantly has been added to it in at least this case and that's maybe why it's listed there (EDIT: Thief 3 is UE2.5 too, right? Because that game has bumpmaps too).

This doesn't mean TWI can just add it, like checking a checkbox somewhere.

The "faked bumpmaps" look pretty good anyway, I have to say.

 

[Dastard]

Deus X 2 had volumetric shadows and a bunch of other wacky and zany engine additions too. It really comes down to whether or not you have the budget for an engine dev, and if it's really necessary. Looking at the screenshots, I'd say it isn't all that necessary.

 

[Innociv]

It definitely looks better than any UT2004 mods, and it looks better than RO too I think.

I would love to have bump mapping at least for modding, though.

I think it's a matter of TWI not having an engine dev. They're looking for one on their jobs page, but says there for improving UE3..