Solo Tankers

[EGF_PeeGee]

I'm afraid Wk is right. The way tank damage is modelled (see numerous other threads) doesn't repay subtlety. The best method is to get as many tanks together as you can and score as many hits as possible fast. In real life a heavy tank like the Tiger or IS2 could advance slowly with infantry support, knowing that it was very difficult to destroy. As things are at the moment in RO, damage from even light weapons builds up until you are destroyed, so you need to adopt the "massed cavalry charge" tactic.

It doesn't excuse some of the silliness seen from tank crews - but it does mean that not everyone dashing around alone in a tank is stupid. Some of us have simply looked more closely at the damage modelling and adapted our tactics accordingly.

 

[Butters]

People just need to learn that this is a game based on teamwork, and that even if your driving you still get points for a kill from a cannon or machinegun. Also its an advantage to have a driver and a gunner, once you fire the driver can try to avoid the enemies retaliation while you reload. Its also nice when the other members of the tank crew have a mic, it just makes everything so much easier.

 

[Stanislav]

People never listen to my commands. Instead they drive into other tanks and get us blown up. So i normally go alone.

 

[Butters]

People never listen to my commands. Instead they drive into other tanks and get us blown up. So i normally go alone.

I prefer to go alone too, but you should give others a chance to jump into your tank.

 

[Bikewer]

I'm pretty used to solo tank work from WWII online; manuever to a good spot, observe, repeat.
I've had the same problem as the others, with folks jumping in who either can't drive or can't shoot.

No doubt working with a clan or squad would solve such problems, but us old guys with work and all have to jump in where we can.

 

[Butters]

I havent gotten assholes in my tank who just like to **** around yet.. but I hate it when you get people with out a mic, HAVE A MIC WHEN YOUR OPERATING A TANK PEOPLE!!!!

 

[Phoenix-D]

I havent gotten assholes in my tank who just like to **** around yet.. but I hate it when you get people with out a mic, HAVE A MIC WHEN YOUR OPERATING A TANK PEOPLE!!!!

The number pad works quite nicely when the mic isn't working (which it doesn't with EAX still).

 

[[TW]DrGuppy]

Personally my problems with tanks are the following:

- There are too many on most maps. I play full 32-player servers and usually there's so many tanks that you have enough for one tanker each.

- Very few drawbacks for multiple crewmembers. Yes, if you get a good crew that knows what they're doing you can cause havock among the enemy but more often then not soloing is more effective because if you're the only one in the tank and say stop, you're going to stop!

I love using teamwork with tanks (and everything else in the game as well) but if I see 3 tanks in spawn and 2 other tankers I will always take my own tank. In almost every situation more tanks are better than fully crewed ones.

 

[EGF_PeeGee]

In almost every situation more tanks are better than fully crewed ones.

Absolutely, and that will remain the case unless or until the damage modelling is made more realistic.

Of course, there is another option for the devs. No matter how many tanks are available on a map, they only spawn one at a time. Then only after a fully crewed tank has gone a certain distance away from spawn will another one appear, but I guess this would have its own set of problems as well.

 

[rossmc]

Anyone who tries to use a tank on his own should be shot,and then shot again and maybe a third time if necessary.

 

[blitze]

I will often tank alone on pub servers. Sorry but I get sick and tired of people who don't know what they are doing and drive us into ditches or enemy tanks straight on. Maybe when damage modelling is better then things will improve but when I ask for a driver to stop I expect it. Likewise if I angle a tank I expect the gunner to shoot as my 11 or 1 o'clock to kill the other tank.

On Knonigsplatz I was with a 3 man crew in the tigar and they had no idea. I then decided to go Panzerfaust as I could do more good protecting my team from the IS2's than in a tigar. I was a hoot running after the IS2's and letting them have it.

 

[Oleg]

Anyone who tries to use a tank on his own should be shot,and then shot again and maybe a third time if necessary.

This is the kind of friendly and tolerant attitude that will make RO insanely popular.

 

[Oleg]

As of yesterday, count me as member of "solo tankers fanboy club". In fact I think game should be redesigned to support solo tanking by design (which will make it more popular).

I was playing with my friend and office-mate (after I pimped the game to him making him buy it). We both logged to same server, running Arad, and took Russian side. We were both in the office, he was physically in the room next to mine - we communicated using voices (shouts), so, no VOIP, no language barriers, no nothing, no commo problems at all. Can it get any easier than that?

I thought it will be a breeze, yet, after we sucked two consecutive games, I couldn't help concluding I simply work better when playing solo. I constantly had to explain my ideas to him, where to stop, what to do, what angle, what speed, where... "go 30 yards forward, slightly to the left then abruptly stop", "no, not towards that tree, I meant that OTHER tree", "man you stopped on a slope I cannot depress the gun enough etc" etc. When he was commander and I was the driver it was the same story.

I found myself constantly shouting, covered with sweat with effort just to communicate simple ideas to a man that is my friend, long time gamer and guy I know for years.

That was painful enough as it is.... NOW, if we have on mind that *additionally*:

a) Multiple crews die together, reducing replacement rate quicker than solo tankers when they die

b) Abundance of tanks as already mentioned, so there are enough tanks for solo tankers already

c) From a tactical standpoint it is much MUCH better to have three solo crewed IS-2s, than 1 fully crewed. 3 solo crewed tanks with average players will ALWAYS beat even the best fully crewed enemy tank even if it has uber elite crew.

Conclusion, for me, is perfectly clear: solo taks rule. Sorry guys, that is how it is. If you think it sucks, then the game should be redesigned to support crewed tanks better (or to drop them altogether, and support solo tanks only, which, personally, I think would be the best decision.)

Oleg

 

[hetzer]

Tank crew coop is difficult without working VOIP. I have NEVER been able to get VOIP working and it still does not. This is despite an SB Audigy 2 and now an SB XFi card, lowering the sound to stop EAX and all the opeanAL tweaks!!
Could some type of integration with a Teamspeak client built in under license and dual server be a runner?

3 times today I joined a vehicle to have the occupant leap out angry I had invaded his "space"?!!

Fruitless Nixonesque balling on my part down an unresponding mic / headphone set got me nowhere! Stabbing NUM5 etc is also usually ignored!

 

[Gungho]

I am the first to admit I have gone solo in the tank, but for a very good reason. Nobody else will get in! Call it BF2 mentality.

Now there's where I think the problem is. I saw a tank driving off, and jumped in as gunner. The baby driving it then just went round in circles, when I asked what he was doing he said I was trying to steal HIS tank, and then drove in reverse towards the enemy to give them an easy kill. In BF2, if the gunner makes a kill, then the driver also gets points for "Driver assist kill". In RO:OST, you don't get this, and so retards drive off on their own so they can get the kill points. Solo tankers just waste the armour, as they are easier kills for fully crewed tanks.

RO:OST should implement point sharing for kills from vehicles, tanks, 1/2 tracks etc... It would make players appreciate each other & more likely to squad up !

 

[Witzig]

RO:OST should implement point sharing for kills from vehicles, tanks, 1/2 tracks etc... It would make players appreciate each other & more likely to squad up !

Already implemented Mate, for every Kill the MG or Commander makes everyone else in the Tank gets equal Points.

Alone Kill = 1
3 People Tank = 1 point each for every kill the "Tank" makes.

 

[Stanislav]

I prefer to go alone too, but you should give others a chance to jump into your tank.

Oh i do. I normally give people a chance but after the fifth time of them ignoring my orders. I just say forget it.

 

[Arrowhead]

I'll hop into the driver seat sometimes, and when someone takes commander I say: "I'm not driving without commands..." most of the time it's just silent until he gives up and leaves the tank...

It would be a pleasure for me to drive someone who is a little bit competent and is atleast issueing commands. but when the guy is stun as ***** I'd rather go solo.

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[Comrade Wasabi]

Because 90% of the people who get in your tanks suck. If I play with someone on vent then yeah, for sure we'll tank together. But I will not try and teach someone who doesn't want to listen, and doesn't want to learn how to drive a tank.

 

[Yeoman_the_Zombie]

Just reading the second page , sure you get some dickheads around , but the games not been out 2 weeks yet everyone thinks there gods gift , not everyone has played bf2 before. you cant exspect everyone do be good when there still getting used to the game. when the patch cmes out there'll be lots more 'noobs' about and im sure two noobs would work much better than one 'i'm so uber' guy with 1 'noob' in a tank.