I wish i can click the like button on your post a million times....
so what about the SDK and the new patch?
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I wish i can click the like button on your post a million times....
Yeah, sometimes i see people who "argue" like you did.
And mostly i see the word "hater" in some context to disqualify someones critics.
If you really want to establish compartmentalization i would classify such behaviour as "unconditional lover fanatics". In your capacity as a "unconditional lover fanatic" you build up "hate threads" ... think about it...
May people of this equivalence class think they can make oneselve out to be as "mature" and kiss up this way to TWI.
Be advised that the TWI-budget for candy is already depleted - no wonder -.
As customer i can expect i proper working game.
Also i can expect that the promises/announcements of the content and features are adhered.
If both is unfulfilled it is self-evident that a company remedy these shortcomings.
It is also in self-interest for a company to give informations what fixes they are working on for next patch.
And to tell which schedule they set for themselves for the outcoming of this next patch.
THIS is the main task of a "public relations department" !!!
Keeping people guessing is a bad habit of software companys.
Do you really think the player numbre decreased from 10 000 to 200-1000 only cause they can not cherish such a fabulous game?
I told 4 friends about this game....they all bought it after taking a look to the features and my telling about how great RO1 was and what they can expect from RO2.
Now ...no one of these is playing it anymore (only days or 1-2 weeks after release).
A other good friend who was playing RO1 with me waited for the outcoming. I told him detailled about the whole game and so about the lack of features and lack of innovative gameplay.concept/design...of the many bugs and crashes and unrealistic aspects.
Conclusion:.....He did not buy it....even after he tries playing it ....
The slow development of patches/fixes/content (till today i only recognized only 2 things getting better: less crashes, 5-10 average fps more) and the very bad public relations works especially here in the forum.....did not help to change his mind.
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A lot of people thought that "miracle patch" arrives after thanksgiving day, it's almost christmas
Anyway, How works proceed?I think the major issue for the future of Red Orchestra 2 is performance. The new changes help a lot?What can you say?
Please also reduce accuracy for machine gun when the weapon is not deployed, people use it like an mp40.
i just want them to realise the SDK, they told us to w8 after thanksgiving now i just w8
You must be an easy customer to deal with
They do owe their customers a complete working game without glitches and the content that was promised and heavily advertised.
This is completely off-topic I know, but I just can't help myself: "Wait" is only four letters, why on Earth would you spell "w8"?
The same reason that none of the i's are capitalised
heh. Either posting from a phone (still no excuse IMO), or just the usual "text message speak" spilling over into non-text-message-text. A bugbear of mine too I find it surprising how many people still don't use T9 predictive text on their phones, because it's "too much hassle" lol
That's not strictly true though is it? All developers owe their own game to their customers, and by that I mean a product that actually WORKS and comes with the features promised at the time of purchase.
Not true at all, to the working part. TWI could very well within their right shove out the half-working SDK and abandon RO2 for good. Doesn't work for you? Tough. Publishers and developers never promised compatibility with all systems. Your various local laws may allow you more or less leeway in getting a refund if it doesn't work, so if you really feel burned pursue that avenue.
It would be a pretty mean trick to pull, and I don't think they'll do that. They say they're working on the game. You (the plural, not you yourself, Damo) can either choose to believe that and move on (either away from the game or in-game) or keep being negative and making bull**** repetitive threads that most often boil down to 'This isn't my vision for RO2!'.
If you still have technical problems with the game, that sucks. Make the bug report, pass on your dump files and hope the next patch fixes it. If you really feel shafted, write a mean letter (not email, and certainly not forum post) and let TWI know why. Creating this miasma of negativity around the forums doesn't accomplish anything constructive, least of all fixing your game.
From everything I've read (I came in at the Thanksgiving sale) RO2 had a pretty epic fail of a launch. Shame on TWI for releasing the game in such a bad state if even *half* of what I read is true. But we're no longer at launch, progress has been made and is continuing to be made. So what the hell does all this whining and *****ing accomplish?
Has TWI not earned enough good will to be left to patch the damn game without people saying the same **** over and over again?
@Eule, I promise I'm not sucking the company teet. Your post quoted by me is whiny and contributes nothing positive to the thread. I never blasted you for not liking RO2. Go ahead and re-read what I wrote. The tone of your first post sucked, and your follow up post is a load of desperate bull****.
Well whichever way you want to spin it, I'm still not buying it (the argument that is, I bought the game long ago
).If a product is faulty (in this case suffering gameplay and performance issues that are affecting a great many people) then it should either be;
A: Returned and refunded/replaced (not really applicable here, though many people have successfully gained refunds) or,
B: Repaired (something we know TWI is working on as we speak)
Fine, if it's a localised problem affecting a tiny percentage of consumers then you could maybe expect little or no action. But RO2 suffers many problems for many people, from gameplay and feature bugs to hardware performance issues. Unfortunately the statistics don't lie, out of tens of thousands of people who purchased RO2, only hundreds play the game on a regular basis (if the browser, gametracker and steam are to be believed) - though I know there's issues with the browser so who knows...
If a product has been sold to a consumer with incorrect or missing content (ie a load of features currently missing from RO2) then I'd expect, by rights, to have options A or B honoured. For this part we know TWI are making progress on bringing some of the missing features to the game. In my eyes, if a company fails to deliver the content categorically stated as being in or part of the product without making it clear they'll be scrapping them/ adding them at a later date it counts as false advertising. Same route as being mis-sold a product.
Now i'm not sticking up for the guys who constantly post the same old whine over and over on the forum, I'm just as tired as you are of seeing the place littered with these threads. But it goes to show, just how much people are frustrated - I know I am with many aspects of the game. I also know that 'OFFICIALLY' none of my post probably stands up, but it'd be morally wrong to allow developers to release games in such states and say they owe us nothing. And for that, those developers lose mine - and thousands of other peoples' respect, so really, it's up to them, and so i'm glad TWI are hoping to do something about it all.
Essay in before the lock!
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Well here are the beginning words of your sentence : "Don't be a dick."
Well what of my "tone" was wrong ? Can you show me?
I established some things as facts...( content/features which were announced not in the game and not working publics relations policy )
The person who seems to use a unfortunate choice of words/wording might be you if i compare our posts.
After a company was not able to bring out a game with the annouced content and features (regardless of the many bugs and instabilities) the least i expect is that they tell me what things they are going to fix in the next patch AND when they intend to release this patch at the latest.
So if TWI is not able to establish a working public relations department over and over again....then i have to remind them...That is only fair...
In conclusion i only can say that i agree with Damos way of looking at things.
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If you released a kraken some MGer would just shoot it from the hip
Lets review the thread, Eule. The first post is a pretty neutral question, followed by a neutral response, a response that manages to display frustration with the limited selection of stock maps while remaining optimistic, another post expressing a longing for transports, and so on down the line. The posts stay neutral to polite even when expressing disappointment, there is some banter, and there's even a full on .jpg! We got a dev response for a point of clarification! This thread has it all!
I think everyone pretty much agrees that the SDK coming out can only be a good thing, whether we feel such for lack of variety or desire to see custom content or model the game more like ROOST. We all want it, we're sharing the vibe. Man it's nice when a community comes together. No matter how we feel about RO2's direction, we all still want it to succeed as a game or we wouldn't be here. At least I hope that's why we're all here.
Then you come along and takes a **** in everyone's ice cream.
"The work of public relation department (if it even exists) leaves a lot to be desired (talking in euphemism).
But may be it is standard procedure of every "big" company to keep people guessing ... may it helps to keep the people and the profit...."
There's the word-turd. You dove straight into negativity. In two lines you manage to turn a fairly innocuous or even positive thread into yet another redundant *****ing thread. Your parenthetical asides are particularly helpful at pointing out that no, you're not just choosing your words poorly or working with a non-native language, you're just trying to be a not nice person (talking in euphemism, there).
Yes, RO2 had a ****ty launch. Yes, the game still needs some work. That does NOT mean every goddamn thread on the forums has to devolve into a miasma of negative crap that accuses Tripwire of taking the money and running , failing to clone ROOST, preferring only the Germans/Russians, causing world hunger and uneven tire wear, or whatever the hell else the griper feels like tacking on to their post.
I don't care if you don't like RO2. I really don't. If it doesn't work for you ina technical sense, I'm terribly sorry to hear that and by all means hammer the **** out of TWI/Steam/your local retailer until you get a refund. I'd write you a support letter of it would help. But I do care that your attitude trashed this thread. You, specifically, were the turning point here. I do care that there is a small handful of posters who cannot bear to see anything but trash and negativity thrown at Tripwire, RO2, and its community and players.
I'm hoping somewhere in the back of my mind that this is all just a mix up. Maybe English isn't your native language, and you weren't aware of the tone you were conveying. You didn't mean to sound like as much of a dick as you did. If that's the case, I am indeed the one in the wrong and heartily apologize. Sadly, your follow up posts seem to indicate that's not the case.
There is a lot of room for disagreement about RO2. This forum should provide a place for that, and for the most part it does. But your post, and posts like it, helps no one. Tell the community what you don't like about the game, by all means. Don't drag down the tone and atmosphere of the community as a whole while you do it.
Lets review the thread, Eule. The first post is a pretty neutral question, followed by a neutral response, a response that manages to display frustration with the limited selection of stock maps while remaining optimistic, another post expressing a longing for transports, and so on down the line. The posts stay neutral to polite even when expressing disappointment, there is some banter, and there's even a full on .jpg! We got a dev response for a point of clarification! This thread has it all!
I think everyone pretty much agrees that the SDK coming out can only be a good thing, whether we feel such for lack of variety or desire to see custom content or model the game more like ROOST. We all want it, we're sharing the vibe. Man it's nice when a community comes together. No matter how we feel about RO2's direction, we all still want it to succeed as a game or we wouldn't be here. At least I hope that's why we're all here.
Then you come along and takes a **** in everyone's ice cream.
"The work of public relation department (if it even exists) leaves a lot to be desired (talking in euphemism).
But may be it is standard procedure of every "big" company to keep people guessing ... may it helps to keep the people and the profit...."
There's the word-turd. You dove straight into negativity. In two lines you manage to turn a fairly innocuous or even positive thread into yet another redundant *****ing thread. Your parenthetical asides are particularly helpful at pointing out that no, you're not just choosing your words poorly or working with a non-native language, you're just trying to be a not nice person (talking in euphemism, there).
Yes, RO2 had a ****ty launch. Yes, the game still needs some work. That does NOT mean every goddamn thread on the forums has to devolve into a miasma of negative crap that accuses Tripwire of taking the money and running , failing to clone ROOST, preferring only the Germans/Russians, causing world hunger and uneven tire wear, or whatever the hell else the griper feels like tacking on to their post.
I don't care if you don't like RO2. I really don't. If it doesn't work for you ina technical sense, I'm terribly sorry to hear that and by all means hammer the **** out of TWI/Steam/your local retailer until you get a refund. I'd write you a support letter of it would help. But I do care that your attitude trashed this thread. You, specifically, were the turning point here. I do care that there is a small handful of posters who cannot bear to see anything but trash and negativity thrown at Tripwire, RO2, and its community and players.
I'm hoping somewhere in the back of my mind that this is all just a mix up. Maybe English isn't your native language, and you weren't aware of the tone you were conveying. You didn't mean to sound like as much of a dick as you did. If that's the case, I am indeed the one in the wrong and heartily apologize. Sadly, your follow up posts seem to indicate that's not the case.
There is a lot of room for disagreement about RO2. This forum should provide a place for that, and for the most part it does. But your post, and posts like it, helps no one. Tell the community what you don't like about the game, by all means. Don't drag down the tone and atmosphere of the community as a whole while you do it.
- I chose the wrong "tone"? ....i see no bad words ....
so only "i was not aware of the tone i was conveying"....
sounds not very concretely.....more like a thought-terminating clich
so only "i was not aware of the tone i was conveying"....
sounds not very concretely.....more like a thought-terminating clich