Situation: Doomed or Not

[EnigmaticRunner]

Incoming lots of text (but I'd really appreciate it if you'd read it):

So I was playing an HoE game on Manor today and I'm wondering if this was a doomed situation:

Our 6 player team was holding the tunnel (not the one with the trader along its length - the adjacent tunnel); anyway, I was a beserker guarding the back tunnel area (player spawn side) at the request of my team.

At the beginning of Wave 8, one player dies immediately (taking too long at trader). Later during the wave, I was attacking a Scrake in the intersection of the tunnel when another Scrake, FP, Siren and 2 Gorefasts spawn behind me and attack to my surprise. Now the Siren effectively distorted my view and prevented me from killing the Scrake I had already been attacking; I was also hit by both Gorefasts (leaving me with 47 HP and 55 Armor). The other 4 players were all at the opposite end of the tunnel out of my view so I quickly vocal command them of the danger. The Gorefasts, Scrake and Siren were in my way to regroup down the tunnel and I "Tab" and notice that my team is all Injured. I decided to retreat to the player spawn point instead, while luring the FP and Scrake away - the FP of which managed to hit me during the retreat. The stunned Scrake recovers and chases me and I manage to get hit once before I killed it. As I move down the pathway with the fences, a bit of front spawn hits me too as I kite the FP which results in me having 32 HP left. Shortly after I reach the tunnel front, a blockade of Gorefasts front spawns and kills me.

Now during this ordeal, I presume my team went to the back of the tunnel.
Whatever they decided, 2 of them died; followed shortly by the rest afterwards.

Now I'm asking if we could've survived this because 4 of the other 5 players started berating me, saying that I ruined the game. So did I really ruin their game due to my playing? I'm always trying to improve so any constructive criticism would be appreciated (because they certainly didn't give any). Thanks for the feedback in advance!

 

[Clowndoe]

I don't think any beserker could have done that on their own without ditching the team completely or at least leaving them to attack. As long as you gave an early enough warning that you needed help then the fault is always shared with the team. Normally I'd see at least 2 people dealing with this, by calling a sharp or at least someone to take out the sirens and GFs and aggroing the scrakes. But then again, if your team is occupied, the only thing that could have saved you might have been a better everyone.

So yeah, unless you remained silent until it was too late, your teammates were ****s.

 

[Althamus]

Unless a player can take out scrakes and FPs very very quickly, he shouldn't be holding the back of the tunnel alone - if you got a scrake, the amount of time it takes you to kill it would make you helpless for too long (compared to a sharp who MIGHT be able to double Xbow him and then carry on killing), so that's the first problem - someone should've been backing you up, or at least a sharp sitting halfway down the tunnel ready to give you cover if you needed it.

When you got all the masses of zeds, there's no way you could take them all. Your alternatives were to kite them away, or kite them back towards your team. The latter would've rightly resulted in your team wiping, because you wouldn't have time to kill everything before it got to them, and purposely getting the team surrounded is a quick ticket to party wipe.
If your team were tried and trusted, then perhaps bringing the zeds to your team might've helped, but only if you knew them and knew they'd be able to help you out and it wouldn't have added extra pressure on them.

So yea, I think you did the right thing. The ONLY thing I'd have done differently is I'd have played to survive rather than distract - get distance and heal and make sure that you don't have stuff in front of you, rather than taking the FP when you were already wounded. Killing a FP when you're on your own and zeds may be spawning in front of you is highly risky. I'd have just moved away and broken LoS, then ran around and either run in through the cave's front (with permission from the team, bearing in mind you'd be leading a train of angry zeds) or straight past the front door, letting the team pull off what zeds they wanted before going down the trader tunnel.

 

[Splatpope]

Just for clarification, was I there ?

 

[EnigmaticRunner]

Sorry for the late response; I've been occupied with the Steam Summer Sale, gaming with all my pals.

So yeah, unless you remained silent until it was too late, your teammates were ****s.

Nope, as soon as I saw them I responded immediately; I've got Fleshpound and Scrake bound as vocal commands so it's rather easy to alert of it when needed.

someone should've been backing you up, or at least a sharp sitting halfway down the tunnel ready to give you cover if you needed it.

Unfortunately, the only person who occasionally gave me support in the previous waves was the one who took too long at the trader and died at the wave's start - also, our only Sharpshooter.

Just for clarification, was I there ?

I don't think so; no players had your forum name anyway unless your in-game name is different.

 

[djw]

Nasty situation. You can always do things better, but I think losing a sharp at the start of the wave, meant you were at a weak starting position and really that is the root of the failure. If the other 4 were strong enough players then they would have known what to do to back you up and cope with the situation. Damm unlucky to get the evil combination of Siren and Fleshpound spawning on you with the added raging Scrake.

It is a failure, but it's also a learning experience. The others blaming you are probably not reflecting on what they could have done better. So they lose, you win.

 

[Gipson]

I wouldve spammed 'Look out!' macros and also type something quick like 'behind' and regroup with the team for support. I've been in that situation as well and more often than not when I desert the team from sheer numbers/panic, death usually follows. I've also been berated because of that a few times, too. lol

 

[͡ °๏Rɐnɐ-Sɐmɐ๏͡°]

Well if i were you, i would have lived through all that and ultimately pissed everyone off by dragging the game out, but on the other hand, it really depends on which perks your team was.