shooting out of a tank
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I suggested this before as an alternative to people teleporting out of their tanks to shoot at nearby infantry. Scroll up past binoculars to pull out the weapon, there you go.
Oh, God, how I'd love that! I'd get an evil satisfaction pistoling a panzerfauster while still sitting in the driver's seat, though I would understand if this feature were allowed only for commanders.
On the ground, you have a weapon in your hands - Why not make it so that the same is true when you're standing in the turret? Okay, it's not purely realistic. But it would solve the bigger (to me) realism problem you mentioned of a tanker jumping out to engage groundpounders. I do it, but I've never been happy with that solution.
On the ground, you have a weapon in your hands - Why not make it so that the same is true when you're standing in the turret? Okay, it's not purely realistic. But it would solve the bigger (to me) realism problem you mentioned of a tanker jumping out to engage groundpounders. I do it, but I've never been happy with that solution.
A cupola MG would be awesome. It would be more realsitic (and effective) than having the commander pull out a pistol or SMG to shoot at an enemy, and less weird than teleportation.
A cupola mg would defiinitly NOT be more realistic!!
I dont understand why TWI made it so you could have an in-between bit between gun-sites and looking out the hatch?
You've go the slits right there (massive ones on the Tiger). But you cant shoot in or out!!????
What a pointless bit of modelling there
I dont understand why TWI made it so you could have an in-between bit between gun-sites and looking out the hatch?
You've go the slits right there (massive ones on the Tiger). But you cant shoot in or out!!????
What a pointless bit of modelling there
A cupola mg would defiinitly NOT be more realistic!!
I dont understand why TWI made it so you could have an in-between bit between gun-sites and looking out the hatch?
You've go the slits right there (massive ones on the Tiger). But you cant shoot in or out!!????
What a pointless bit of modelling there
Those aren't slits there armoured glass, you cant shoot out of them.
But you shoot through them from the outside. Only if you are Tom Hanks though, and I'm rather sure Tom Hankses weren't used at the eastern front in numbers high enough to justify their implementation in RO...
Im pretty sure firing pistols out of tanks was perfectly acceptable in the Soviet and German doctrines. In fact it was often the Russian tank factory's excuse for cheaping out on the armored glass in the view slits.
I couldn't say if that's true or not however it would definately be more cod-ish
The origional idea sounds fine and could be applied to new vehicles i guess. Although I think you would have to stick to just your primary weapon rather than mousewheeling to select nade's etc.
Actually, cupola-mounted MGs would be more than accurate, since most German tanks had a mount for one. Its main purpose was anti-aircraft.
But, that's the problem of implementing them - to be perfectly accurate, only German tanks would have them until the advent of the IS-2, which got a big honkin- 12.7 mm Dushka. Now I know that there are a lot of Panzer commanders out there who would love that MG34 or MG42 just sitting up there ready to waste clown cars, but I don't remember seeing any T34 with one (some BT-7s had them, but only early ones).
And PLEASE, stop thinking that anyone is going to shoot through an armored vision block. If anyone missed it, the proper name for "those little slits that you see through" is armored vision block. There are rare instances of direct strikes with PTRD rounds that would penetrate enough to send shards into the faces of gunners or commanders, but a PTRD is an anti-tank weapon - not just a rifle.
And for the record, it didn't work for Tom Hanks either. His was futile last shots were coincident to that P-51 actually blowing the tank up. So there.
But, that's the problem of implementing them - to be perfectly accurate, only German tanks would have them until the advent of the IS-2, which got a big honkin- 12.7 mm Dushka. Now I know that there are a lot of Panzer commanders out there who would love that MG34 or MG42 just sitting up there ready to waste clown cars, but I don't remember seeing any T34 with one (some BT-7s had them, but only early ones).
And PLEASE, stop thinking that anyone is going to shoot through an armored vision block. If anyone missed it, the proper name for "those little slits that you see through" is armored vision block. There are rare instances of direct strikes with PTRD rounds that would penetrate enough to send shards into the faces of gunners or commanders, but a PTRD is an anti-tank weapon - not just a rifle.
And for the record, it didn't work for Tom Hanks either. His was futile last shots were coincident to that P-51 actually blowing the tank up. So there.
But Tom Hanks is Chuck Norris in disguise. he didn't even need that pistol. he could've ran up to the tank, kicked in the glass and killed the unsuspecting german on the inside. Ain't no tank gonna mess with the chuck.
When they disable the first Tiger, Tom Hanks runs up and sticks his SMG into the drivers vision slit and sprays tommy gun rounds in there.
I wonder if you did that would it damage the glass enough to not be able to see through it. I think it wouldent be good for it, i imagine the ricochets would be bad for the firer tho.
I wonder if you did that would it damage the glass enough to not be able to see through it. I think it wouldent be good for it, i imagine the ricochets would be bad for the firer tho.
It would be easier to just throw some paint on the slit...
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AFAIK some German tanks had a cupola MG34 and most IS-2s had the 12.7mm. I'm no expert though. As for shooting out of tanks: That would be neat but with the current system it's probably easier to just hop out shoot and hop back in, seeing as how this is even faster than switching between the different commander positions.
Historically, most early German tanks had "pistola" ports on the turret in which the tankers to open a slit on a PzIII and just shoot nearby inf.
I think they even had some of these on the early model of Tigers and Panthers, but they were done away with because they were weak points in Tank vs Tank battles.
But even after that German tanks usually carried an MP40 or two just in case.
I think they even had some of these on the early model of Tigers and Panthers, but they were done away with because they were weak points in Tank vs Tank battles.
But even after that German tanks usually carried an MP40 or two just in case.
I dont see what the problem would be with the cuppola MG, plus the commander would be very vulnerable to infantry fire in that position. Also, if they really dont want to do that for some reason, why not just give the commander his SMG or pistol when he is in the normal view looking out the top hatch.