Selling 2 german versions on steam.

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Zetsumei

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Wouldn't it be possible to sell a 16+ and an 18+ version of rohos on steam. So german online buyers could decide to simply pay for an 18+ uncut version.
 

Witzig

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Wouldn't it be possible to sell a 16+ and an 18+ version of rohos on steam. So german online buyers could decide to simply pay for an 18+ uncut version.


If you don't already know... The Developers of a game send the German USK a Version of the Game and the USK rates the game, sometimes the Games get 16, 18+ or get "banned".
So its a gamble for a Developer in which way they cut the Game to get a reasonable rating.

I will buy the Steam Version no matter if its cut or not, the German Version of L4D was a bit kinda meh, but i do not miss the Splatter, and usually i'm too busy playing to keep track of Gorestuff.

Though if Tripwire would send two Versions of RO2 to the USK (one with limited Gore and one without Limitation), wouldn't be such a big issue imho. The bigger issue will be the Swastikas....

Might just be that the Unlimited Gore gets forbidden from the German Market, though its a Warsim....
But one never knows.
 

Zetsumei

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Isn't it illegal to sell uncut versions in Germany, period?

No but uncut versions get an 18+ rating. Which means that it cannot be showed on display, so most shops won't take it in then. But for digital distribution that wouldn't be an issue.
 

Mormegil

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I think on one of the TWI interviews, I think they mentioned they realized it was a mistake for the Steam based updates in censored countries to conform to that countries standards, even if the product was a boxed version bought from an uncensored country.

So I guess that's a way people can get uncut versions, and not worry about update issues, assuming TWI doesn't change that type of content up updates.
 

Richard_B.

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If the German verison should be cut in any way, I suppose there will be an uncut Austrian version. Just buy that, it should work fine even over STEAM as long as the BPjM doesn't put the game on Index List B. Activision decided to "ban" foreign version of Modern Warfare 2 in Germany because of this - games on list B are highly in danger of being declared illegal in case of a lawsuit. If this happens, the publisher would be guilty of selling illegal games, even if the game wasn't illegal before the judgment.
However, as long as HoS does not feature game parts where you have to go and shoot civilians, the game should get an 18+-rating or a place on Index List A (if indexed - a game without a rating doesn't necessarily have to land a place on the index).
 

DraKon2k

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If the German verison should be cut in any way, I suppose there will be an uncut Austrian version. Just buy that, it should work fine even over STEAM as long as the BPjM doesn't put the game on Index List B. Activision decided to "ban" foreign version of Modern Warfare 2 in Germany because of this - games on list B are highly in danger of being declared illegal in case of a lawsuit. If this happens, the publisher would be guilty of selling illegal games, even if the game wasn't illegal before the judgment.
However, as long as HoS does not feature game parts where you have to go and shoot civilians, the game should get an 18+-rating or a place on Index List A (if indexed - a game without a rating doesn't necessarily have to land a place on the index).
I hope so but I don't care because I play all my games on english(and have steam with english settings + austria as destination) and never had any problems and always uncut stuff.
 

Atelophobia

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Well, I dont want a cut version of RO2. I preordered RO1 via Steam and it was cut (not that big deal for RO1 but I want the "original").
Ordering the game from abroad will kee me away from playing on day 1 I guess (yea, I consider this as a problem ;) ).
So, it'll be nice to know what versions are planned (any details known here?) and if receiving as a steam gift from abroad will do?
 

SheepDip

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There'll be a regional version for each country based on that countries laws, TWI won't be able to just "work around" their individual censorship.

If you want a different regions version, you'll have to buy that version from that region.
 

Atelophobia

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Thanks, the question for me is: Will a gifted RO2 from the country X mean I ll get version X or will I end up with a german version because Im a german user? Id like to get it gifted from the netherlands which should provide full gore.
 

Ragnarök

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Wouldn't it be possible to sell a 16+ and an 18+ [uncut] version of rohos on steam. So german online buyers could decide to simply pay for an 18+ uncut version.

Would be a great solution, and if you proof your age f.e. by your ID to the retail seller there shouldn't be legal problems.


Not that again....

But that's a major issue! I'm adult and theoretically the German law concerning the display of gore just aims at the youth. Unfortunately in reality adult gamers are penalized and spoon-fed, too! :mad:

The Bundesamt for Jungendgef
 
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husbert

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i dont need the gore. gore is secondary ;)


So it's Valve/Steam's fault for adhering to your laws? If you and other gamers hate those laws so much, then why not have them changed?


we had the decision, uncensored boobs and insults or swastikas and gore
we got boobs and insults :p