Running RO 2 on Windows 8

[dazman76]

That's funny - just a few posts ago, this was about having UI choices "forced on us". Now that's been debunked, it seems to be about a lack of reasons for upgrading from Windows 7. How much more do you want to move the goal posts so a negative opinion of Windows 8 still fits? Maybe the logo isn't to your liking?

W8 will be an excellent upgrade option for users of Windows XP and Vista, as it will provide no less than Windows 7 currently does - basically a rock-solid platform regardless of your PC usage profile. I agree that W8 will offer limited incentive to upgrade for current W7 users - but that wasn't the topic being discussed, and that is (IMO) more of a compliment to W7 than it is a detriment to W8.

This is just the usual reaction before MS launches a new OS - it happens every time. It was justified with Vista, as it really was a pile of droppings - but W7 was a completely different beast, and worth every penny I paid for my copy of Pro - which incidentally was cheap, compared to Vista. I won't be moving from W7 for some time now - but that won't stop W8 being an excellent OS for those who wind up running it, whether they've upgraded or simply received it with a new PC.

It is not the devil, and it is far from pointless.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

If the upgrade were free, I would be more likely to do it as I am sure others would.

The fact that it is going to cost people money when most of them are completely happy with the OS they got, has got to be a very big deciding factor.

IF for some reason I have to buy a copy of a new OS, and I hear that Win 8 isn't a dog like VISTA, then I will consider it. Other than that, I couldn't care less about it.

So, what should really be asked is what does Win 8 offer that justifies people spending their limited cash on it over their current OS?

 

[Mike_Nomad]

Then there is zero point in getting Windows 8 unless you are REALLY hard pressed for native OS ISO mounting or a redesigned Task Manager. Because their major selling point for 8 is the Metro UI.

If I wanted "normal" Windows in Windows 8, I'd save myself the cash and just stick with Windows 7.

100% in agreement.

 

[Cpt-Praxius]

Well,I just instaled Windows 8 Beta on my computer and then instaled RO2,everything ok with the drivers and stuff,entered the game and guess what..a complete DIZASTER,in my lucky moments I reached a medium fps of 4-18 and on the empty servers 40 fps but not stable.Not accusing or something,the game is not made for this windows but I'm just saiyng so you know if you want to play RO2 on Windows 8.Now I will try another game to see how it runs and comeback with an edit.

When I tried Windows Vista Beta, none of my games worked, half the functions didn't work and I had a crap of a time getting connected to my internet, which I didn't.

Basically, every program I owned didn't register with Win Vista Beta and wouldn't install due to not being a compatible version for Vista or something like that.

Windows Betas are basically to get the look and feel of the OS..... if you get something running decently, or at all for that matter, consider yourself lucky.

It is just a Beta don't forget (gee, where'd I hear that one before?)

Added:

As if goes for Windows 8 and bashing it.... I know nothing about it and don't currently care.... I just got into / and used to using Windows 7...... now they're gonna toss out another one? WhTF do they think they are? Norton AntiVirus??

Windows XP stuck around for a good number of years before Vista came along & did alright for itself..... why can't they just give 7 an update every so often to include these things over time?

Then people can still choose if they want to roll back to Win 7 features easily, or go forward with 8 or 9 or XXI.

And people could still buy windows 7 off the shelf for years, while each year, the copies are packed with the latest updates everybody else already has (rather than getting some old copy and spend half your month's bandwidth downloading it all)

But maybe I'm just crazy

 

[dazman76]

So, what should really be asked is what does Win 8 offer that justifies people spending their limited cash on it over their current OS?

That's simple to answer, in my opinion. Anyone running an OS prior to Vista has lots reasons to upgrade - they probably also need a hardware upgrade, and that itself could get them Windows 8. They would most probably struggle to run 8 (and even Vista and 7) on such hardware - but if their PC components are fairly generic, this tends to vary greatly dependent on driver support and quality. It's entirely possible to run 7 on a 5+ year old laptop, IF you can drivers direct from component manufacturers that work properly. Yes Dell, I'm looking at you and your crappy hardware mods and poor modern driver support for older machines.

People running Vista will be harder to convince. Vista was too expensive, a lesson learned and reversed with 7. If you've suffered Vista this long, you're probably immune or numb to it's many problems - because you still haven't upgraded to 7, despite those problems. However, your hardware will have no issues running 8, if you're already running Vista without major problems.

People running 7 - as I already alluded to in my previous posts - have far less motivation to upgrade. Windows 7 works, and works very well. For those 7 users who have the spare cash, the UI features in 8 might be enough to tempt them to upgrade. Otherwise, they'll be sticking with what they have already. MS know this.

Even given this not-so-great outlook, there will still be people queuing outside stores to buy 8 when it arrives - it always seems to happen. Plus, major manufacturers will again be convinced to quickly ship 8 on new hardware, albeit with a 7 downgrade option to satisfy those who aren't quite ready to abandon a perfectly good OS

I find this whole "I'm not upgrading, so there" reaction quite amusing really I don't think MS expect many of their 7 customers to upgrade - they're not stupid, and they realise that UI changes aren't enough to justify the time and money required to upgrade for the vast majority of people. However, with so many people clinging on desperately to their XP machines - an OS that WILL, finally, honestly, definitely(tm) cease to receive security updates in the near future - there's a huge pool of potential buyers, and you can bet that they'll make 8 more attractive than 7 as soon as the new OS launches. They have nothing to fear when it comes to large numbers of people adopting 8 In my opinion, they are also making no mistakes when launching an OS that mostly improves the UI - 8 isn't all about PC's, and it seems to me that their fancy new tablet-style UI works very nicely in it's intended environment. Also, the platform support is excellent - well, it's terribly extensive and universe-ruining if you're wearing the anti-MS tinfoil hat and having nightmares about MS toasters and kettles - but from their point of view, they're finally crossing enough platforms to make it a worthwhile thing to talk about.

 

[Razvanss]

I know is just a beta LOL,but I was curious to see how it runs and I have to say....for a beta it's a damn good windows,no epic errors and stuff,all programs are running pretty good(exept a minor error script on messenger) and some other games like BF2 and BF3 are running great,we all know that RO2 still has performance problems(not accusing),let's wait for the final version come out and the start accusing Microsoft,there will always gooing to be critics for everything,remember....now they are taking feedback from the beta,who knows what major things will change(like the epic start buton).

 

[Das Bose]

If the upgrade were free, I would be more likely to do it as I am sure others would.

The fact that it is going to cost people money when most of them are completely happy with the OS they got, has got to be a very big deciding factor.

This ( the OS they have and are supposedly happy with ) will be the very same OS that they were attacking and deriding, prior to and then on it's release, as they are doing now with windows 8

IF for some reason I have to buy a copy of a new OS, and I hear that Win 8 isn't a dog like VISTA, then I will consider it. Other than that, I couldn't care less about it.

Neither could I, but attacking it based on any information we have now is premature at best

No I'm not suggesting you were attacking it.

So, what should really be asked is what does Win 8 offer that justifies people spending their limited cash on it over their current OS?

We won't know until they release it

 

[PermenentMarker]

I really hope you didn't install it as your primary OS with how early a stage it's in.

And given the rule of skipping every other generation of Windows, I think I'll just end up waiting for Win9 to fix what they break in 8. Also, I'm so not a fan of all of the changes they've made to appeal to the tablet/touch monitor owners out there.

Seriously, nobody owns a monitor that you can touch and interact with... I don't need it forced on me in my desktop experience.

I agree 100%

Win95 - Good
Win98 - Bad (I reinstalled it so many times I still know the key by heart)
Win98SE - Great
WinME - ****ing horrible
Windows XP - Amazing
Windows Vista - Bad (perhaps good with latest service pack)
Windows 7 - great
Windows 8 - who knows yet

I skipped Windows NT and 2000 Pro. They were good but mostly intended for corporate use.


I just hope windows 8 does a significant performance difference for the new line of AMD FX chips for AMD's sake.

 

[dazman76]

I just hope windows 8 does a significant performance difference for the new line of AMD FX chips for AMD's sake.

You may already know this, but that's down to AMD not MS - MS simply expects an x86-compliant CPU to be present, and to do it's bidding. The rest is up to the CPU itself

 

[ARMY guy]

I agree 100%

Win95 - Good
Win98 - Bad (I reinstalled it so many times I still know the key by heart)
Win98SE - Great
WinME - ****ing horrible
Windows XP - Amazing
Windows Vista - Bad (perhaps good with latest service pack)
Windows 7 - great
Windows 8 - who knows yet

I skipped Windows NT and 2000 Pro. They were good but mostly intended for corporate use.


I just hope windows 8 does a significant performance difference for the new line of AMD FX chips for AMD's sake.

Not really totally relevant to the thread but vista is actually pretty good with service pack 2. In fact i went from vista SP2 to win 7 pro and i wish i just kept my money because there's hardly any point to go from vista SP2 to 7. 7 Obviously is better but its by such a small margin its insane.

 

[Warlord]

Well...I took it down and threw it on a VM to have a look.
Nothing really new except the Metro UI...bit awkward on a desktop. Bit of a run around to get to things it seems.
I'd like to get a tablet and try it out, since this is obviously what it is made for. But for the desktop user there no real reason to upgrade that I can see as of yet. But as everyone knows, this is just a consumer's preview...we'll see what Microsoft does in the future after they finish collecting feedback.

 

[G_Sajer]

Sigh. Honest to Ghod. If there is any way people can poke around and bring something to it's knees, they'll find it. beta, beta, beta; drivers, drivers, drivers.

 

[wake_up]

Not really totally relevant to the thread but vista is actually pretty good with service pack 2. In fact i went from vista SP2 to win 7 pro and i wish i just kept my money because there's hardly any point to go from vista SP2 to 7. 7 Obviously is better but its by such a small margin its insane.

Seriously, you think windows vista is as good as windows 7?
What do you use to chop down trees? A pink kitchen knife?
Windows Vista sucked, cause is was so bad, no one bought it,
cause all the IT guys said it really sucks.
You really should reed some reviews about vista and 7, or a
comparison between vista and 7

 

[Grimreapo]

I agree 100%

Win95 - Good
Win98 - Bad (I reinstalled it so many times I still know the key by heart)
Win98SE - Great
WinME - ****ing horrible
Windows XP - Amazing
Windows Vista - Bad (perhaps good with latest service pack)
Windows 7 - great
Windows 8 - who knows yet

I skipped Windows NT and 2000 Pro. They were good but mostly intended for corporate use.


I just hope windows 8 does a significant performance difference for the new line of AMD FX chips for AMD's sake.

 

[dazman76]

@Grimreapo - yeah, that's more like how I see it too Windows 98 is the main disagreement when this topic comes up - for me, it was miles better than 95, especially for gaming. Yeah it crashed, required reboots - but it was far, far faster than 95 in general, and booted up quickly anyway.

I downloaded the ISO for the 8 preview, might give it a run in a VM too if I get time.

 

[The_Emperor]

Who cares? It will at least take one year till win8 is released, what you got there is not even worth to call it beta!

It will take (at least) one year for TWI to get RO2 to its "should-be" state.
Of course we'll all still be running something between Win98 to Win7 on our machines.

 

[hekuball]

Windows ME was an atrocity, it still wakes me up at night in a cold sweat with the words "illegal operation" floating around in my consciousness.

 

[DiedTrying]

I still have XP

 

[Razvanss]

Windows ME was an atrocity, it still wakes me up at night in a cold sweat with the words "illegal operation" floating around in my consciousness.

Muhahaha LOL

 

[kmanmx]

I am running Windows 8, Nvidia already have Windows 8 drivers too. All the games i've tried including RO2 run just as well if not better. Performance in some games is quite noticeably better without even needing to benchmark.

I've had zero problems.