Level Design RORoleInfo FAQ

[Slashbot_427]

Is it possible to have two or more of the same kind of RORoleInfo in your map, but with slightly diferent setup.

EG.

Unlimited "ROTankCrew"- with pistol, two grenades.
Limited (2) "ROTankCrew"- with rifle, two grenades, binoculars
Limited (2) "ROTankCrew"- with rifle, two grenades, satchelcharge


etc


I tried this kind of thing but i got a crashbug (loop of 250+ iterations)- it seems the engine got confused with the number of each class it had spawned and couldn't decide what to spawn next, so it crashed.

I think I remember seeing this setup somewhere for rilfemen- for the K98Carbine- maybe in the mod. If anyone has done this kind of setup before could they let me know how.

Thnx.

 

[DingBat]

Hmmm, I suspect that this wouldn't be possible atm. The game wouldn't be able to distinguish which tank crew role you meant (there's no unique name). I could be wrong.

 

[worluk]

But you could with little work create some modified RoleInfos which you could include in your level
With a different naming, it shouldnt be a problem.

 

[Slashbot_427]

But you could with little work create some modified RoleInfos which you could include in your level
With a different naming, it shouldnt be a problem.

The level is a large tank map, so i need to have as many ROTankers as possble. If I could include a few variants with extra kit it would increase the number of tank crew. In this map if you dont have wheels you wont get to the action easily.

I was wanting some tank crew to have satchel charges, some to have binoculars, some with rifles, some with smg, not too many but enough that some extra basic roles could be covered without sacrificing tankers.

Since a package in UT can effectivly contain anything(so I understand- the file extentions are there for identication only) would it be possible to compile a script extending the RORoleinfo, and save it into the .rom(map) file instead of the .u package. Maybe into the mylevel package. I havent written any scripts yet- I will release a beta of the map with standard roles first- less chance of a stuffup.




EDIT:

Thank the wiki

http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/Embedding_Code

 

[SasQuatch]

There's one thing to consider, please, seriously, no tank crew would ever have rifles in their tank.

 

[WickedPenguin]

Yeah, no rifles.

Even SMG's like Thompsons were considered too ungainly. The PPS-43 was actually designed more-or-less specifically for tank crews, given its short length and folding stock.

The idea of having a Mosin or K98 inside a tiny, cramped vehicle would just not work.

 

[Slashbot_427]

Yeah they are a bit too long maybe a couple of pps43 and some satchels.

 

[worluk]

hm, i wanted to say "riflepickups" put that wouldnt make it more realistic, would shouldnt be able to enter a tank with a rifle in the inventory :/

 

[ExoCet-NAW]

Strap a few rifles to the sides of the tanks, then add weapon pickups to them ??.

Not sure if it can be done that way but make more sense.

 

[Crube]

I've seen pictures of tanks with rifles attached to the outside of the turret (gun rack).

 

[Nestor Makhno]

Is it possible to create new roles though? - for example RKKA PT-Soldat (last time I looked at SDK, only RKKF had the option of anti-tank roles - presumably for taking out all the tanks they come across floating around in the Black & Barents seas )

 

[worluk]

you can create new roles, along with new skins and values. Unless you pack them in your map (myLevel) you would have to put the .u file in the map .zip file.

 

[Nestor Makhno]

Thanks for the info. Can you give us a brief description of how that's done pls Worluk?

 

[DingBat]

you can create new roles, along with new skins and values. Unless you pack them in your map (myLevel) you would have to put the .u file in the map .zip file.

Just for interests sake, 'luk, how much does packaging a few .u files increase the map file size? Seems to me that's the easiest way to go.

 

[worluk]

i havent tried, but concluding from the size of the .u file (and i highly doubt it would be much more) i'd say 4-200kb (a single new actor with pawn i made is 4KB, the RO Roles in total are 160KB). Depending what actors you subclass and especially how much new stuff you add in there.

@*7GA* Nestor Makhno, i will write something up and post it here. I would be willing to help you with some of the code for your black sea project, yet atm RL is really a ***** and i dont have much time for fun coding...

 

[Nestor Makhno]

Thanks Worluk, I'll talk to you in July and see if RL has dialled it back a bit