RO2 and why I will play BF3 more

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BBRodriquez

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I guess I'm off to BF3 for now, until a team that is in no was affiliated with TWI makes a decent mod.....

Nice that you write this into three threads, cry for attention?

To Bf3, I just played the beta a bit and must say a nice game, a lot of bugs but they still have a month to fix them.
But still the guns feel a little bit strange (this might be because it doesnt run well on my pc, RO2 runs better).
After all it looks like BC2 with new maps and some gameplay changes.

Ok they included a gamebreaking new feature that will change fps gaming: Going prone. Might be a risk, people dont like new gameplay features (look at RO2), but wow its possible with Bf4 we will see things like leaning but I guess thats sci-fi.

Kidding aside: nice game, will be sold a lot. I might buy it when there is a complete edition with all the expensive little dlc or when I can estimate how much more money I have to spend after buying the main game.

Only thing that scares me is Orgin (and it looks like nobody gives a damn):

But there
 

Kings

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Why do people have the need to tell other people they're going to play another game instead of RO2?

Did your daddy do some nasty things to you while you were little?

But seriously, go play BF3 then and stop spamming stuff people who like RO2 aren't served with.
 

Moyako

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I like this thread. I will play with myself a little just now, after that I'll play some RO2 and Baldur's Gate 2....


...then I'll touch myself again for another while, and play another random game.

Tomorrow, another update about my plans for fapping and gaming, same hour, same channel.

Stay tuned :cool:
 
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Heilkraut

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since someone here wanted to see screens

BF3 High with the 4x AA running on 15-25FPS on my system


BF3 High without 4x AA running at 30FPS on my system


RO2 with 8x AA running at 35-45FPS on my system
 
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Kings

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And then they say BF on low looks 20 times better than RO2. High doesn't even look better and runs worse.

Anyway, that's how I see those graphics.
 

Icey_Pain

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LOL @ illscarlet. Has to make a seperate thread because just getting attention here wasn't enough.

As for the Battlefield 3 Beta, I tried it and here's the result:

Intro:


So I installed Origins, just because the beta is absolutely free of charge without needing to preorder. I figured it was the perfect opportunity to test the game instead of having prejudice.

As for the battlelog page that opens, I actually like it. It allows browsing the game until the game has dropped you into a server already.
Funny enough that I needed to apply a registry fix just to play the game, getting RO2 to work was just as troublesome.

Graphics:

So when I started the game the first thing I noticed was the graphics of course, and how utterly bad they were. Everyone goes like "Oh pretty graphics" but the only good thing about the graphics is that the textures look relatively sharp. The lack of polygons in many of the world details is something they try to cameoflage with the blur.

Blurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, that's the idea I get from this game. It's an absolute horror to play this game due to the blur. It is by far 10x worse than RO2.
Here's why: If you are playing a shooter, situational awareness is something that is a very important aspect to staying alive.
Because of the blur that this game has, enemies just blend into the environment way too much.

As a result of this, it is very very hard to keep situational awareness as you litterally need to doublecheck everything instead of doing a quick sweep of your surroundings.
This is something that completely destroys the pace of the game. Either you can camp and take the time to carefully doublecheck your surroundings. Or you can just rush, frown like mad to focus your eyes and push your nose on the monitor to try and blitzkrieg enemies before they see you.

Gameplay Mechanics:

Spawning on the squad leader in this game works very well as you spawn so close that you are basically already in squad formation. But this is also where it's utterly bad, you spawn so close that you basically bump into your squad leader and he noticably feels him getting bumped.

Navigating through the world isn't hard, you can jump pretty far, leap over obstacles and you can run endlessly and your character does feel like he's got momentum. Unfortunately this smoothness quickly disappears when you get stuck behind every tiny bit of rubble.

There's seperate keys for hold crouch and toggle crouch and the connecting animations from prone to crouch or prone to sprint feel very comfortable. Though it's obviously arcade as you're able to slide a tiny bit every where, which is a clear sign to me that they didn't include friction into the formula.

Yet I'm missing functionality in the game, I was expecting some kind of cover system or atleast some extra motions that my character could do. I don't really know how to properly say this, but the control scheme might be just a little too simple for my taste.

Weapon Handling:

The weapons in this game for an arcade shooter are not bad, but compared to RO2 they simply can not stand up.
There's obviously recoil, moreso than RO2. But it's not the type of recoil that makes you feel like you're holding a gun. It's the type of recoil that feels very artificially made to balance the game.
Though the speed of bringing up the stock to the shoulder after sprinting seems to be spot on, which is something RO2 could learn from.

The weapons unfortunately are not very balanced, it seems that the guns that you unlock are quite a bit stronger than the guns you start with, and the fact that higher level players have acces to quite some unlocks such as the forward grip doesn't help either.


Sounds:

The sounds are meh, you constantly hear the same "31337" sounds, that try to make you feel like you're some badass soldier. Perhaps this works for 12 years olds, but I'm not buying it anymore.
There's just sounds everywhere that really do nothing to help your situational awareness. I could easily call them overwhelming without having any positive influence to the game.

Gameplay:


It's mostly Call of Duty mixed with some Medal of Honour mixed with Bad Company 2. It is nothing like Battlefield 2. You run around like it's Call of Duty, but atleast you need to decide where you want to run not to get your face blown off. In that sense it does not promote running on open fields. Sometimes you can get a glimpse of the teamwork that is possible in the game. It really is more effective to be with teammates, yet the game hardly encourages it enough.

Conclusion:


The game will still be a great game for many of the people that do not have a long list of demands. But if you are a gamer with appreciation for good gameplay, Battlefield 3 will not give you any satisfaction.
 
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Moyako

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Honestly, I don't undertand why some people keep saying how they'll play more BF3 than RO2, saying bye and crap like that. I wonder if they actually think anyone give a ****. Us RO diehard lovers enjoy another games too, geez. It's stupid to compare both games.

This, for example is my desktop. I love every one of those games. If you like RO2, ok. If you like BF3, ok too. Just play a game you enjoy, ffs. It's the whole point of gaming, and stop making new pointless threads

Spoiler!
 
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Rumo

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I like this thread. I will play with myself a little just now, after that I'll play some RO2 and Baldur's Gate 2....


...then I'll touch myself again for another while, and play another random game.

Tomorrow, another update about my plans for fapping and gaming, same hour, same channel.

Stay tuned :cool:
Sounds like a good plan for the day! Enjoy! :D
 

Richey79

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@Moyako

Vampire: The Masquerade was an awesome game. It had many faults, but it's qualities were so good that you could look past them.

Such a shame it led to Troika being shut down :(
 

Moyako

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Vampire: The Masquerade was an awesome game. It had many faults, but it's qualities were so good that you could look past them.

Such a shame it led to Troika being shut down :(

Well, with the unoficial patch the game is almost perfectly polished! :)

And yep, sadly Troika didn't live to release another awesome jewel
 

Mike 78

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Why do people have the need to tell other people they're going to play another game instead of RO2?

Did your daddy do some nasty things to you while you were little?

But seriously, go play BF3 then and stop spamming stuff people who like RO2 aren't served with.


Becuase RO2 is the biggest disappointment in TW''s release history. I got all their games but they really dropped the ball on this one. So people like me are being pushed towards other games like BF3 and want this to be heard here. Maybe TW will hear this and start getting their **** together and listen to the vets. If they will continue on this road this game will be DEAD in 2 months. Look at the player numbers, people are abbandoning this game by the 1000's. Only people still hollering the negative BF3 crap and screaming for unchanged gameplay for RO2 are the newcomers who never played RO1 and they are a minority.
 

AsoBit

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Becuase RO2 is the biggest disappointment in TW''s release history. I got all their games but they really dropped the ball on this one. So people like me are being pushed towards other games like BF3 and want this to be heard here. Maybe TW will hear this and start getting their **** together and listen to the vets. If they will continue on this road this game will be DEAD in 2 months. Look at the player numbers, people are abbandoning this game by the 1000's. Only people still hollering the negative BF3 crap and screaming for unchanged gameplay for RO2 are the newcomers who never played RO1 and they are a minority.

If you think they're unaware of anything, you're silly. They read the forums, they see what's going on. Sh*t happens, and they've let us know they're working on it. Creating 100 threads saying "LOL BYE" is only clogging the forums and pushing away the constructive threads that actually have something to say.
 
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grothesj2

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@Moyako

Vampire: The Masquerade was an awesome game. It had many faults, but it's qualities were so good that you could look past them.

Such a shame it led to Troika being shut down :(
I really liked the story and environment but loathed the combat.
 

The Beast (nl)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by illscarlettNP
I guess I'm off to BF3 for now, until a team that is in no was affiliated with TWI makes a decent mod.....



Nice that you write this into three threads, cry for attention?
_____________________________________________________________

Do you want to destroy Red Orchestra 2 on purpose??
 

The Beast (nl)

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OMG 6x scope for my shotgun! I'm never playing RO2 again! BF3 all the way! Its also awesome how realistically you can move while prone, 12mph and halfway through the ground! This needs to be the game that everyone plays FOR EVER, all other games should be banned from existence! (except MW3 of coarse because that will be even better.)


bye bye and have a good time.
 

The Beast (nl)

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Why do people have the need to tell other people they're going to play another game instead of RO2?

Did your daddy do some nasty things to you while you were little?

But seriously, go play BF3 then and stop spamming stuff people who like RO2 aren't served with.


Agreed !!
I am very angry how people is destroying RO2 now. Why let the admin let this go????????? i really don`t understand it.