before i get into this, it's not a historicaly correct map. 
I got two months to make this map and i realized quickly that i wouldnt have time to realisticly and historicly (spelling? ) recreate a scenario from russian front, with all it means in terms of reference material and research, so i sort of went another direction. I looked at some russian factories but I also looked at abandoned buildings and factories in general (such as availabe at opacity.us or abandoned-places.com) to gather influences for the look and feel of the place. The actual design of the factory is purly based on what I think would make a really interesting battleground to fight it out in, RO-style.
I figured, either i go all the way with realism and historically correctness or i simply do whats reasonable for me in 2 months and focus on good gameplay in a "general" ww2 russia setting.
With all that said, you guys giving me this feedback is awesome as it fills in on some of the research I never had time to conduct and small details I quite simply will never realize, and i expect even more of this after you playtest it. =)
Nestor, when you say "glass all across" do you mean that the actual ceiling would be made out of glass? The actual function for the moon-beam windows was initially to give the guys holding the center building a big advantage and have them go up there and snipe and pretty much have total battlefield control but i quickly realized that it would be realy unbalanced. I based that room on this picture:
http://www.opacity.us/image3486_walk.htm I think it has great scope at the size and giving the feeling that in the end, you're just a tiny person in a gigantic industrial room. I russified (yes, thats a word! Russifie = make more functional and stripped down=)) it a bit to make it look less pretty and artistic than in the picture.
I'm sort of into the idea of making a ceiling entirly out of iron bulkheads and dirty glass. That could be neat but we'll see. I really love the moon beams so whatever i do i'll try to work around the design to give the windows function rather than removing them.
The support for the pipe is a big placeholder that i figured i'd leave in for the first playable beta We'll see tho, its not a very hard model to model or uvmap so maybe. In the final it'll surly be replaced. Its really hard to get something useful out of the picture you posted tho (its tiny!!!) but i'll look around for reference myself. Lemme know if you run over any other pictures with good reference.
Monkwarrior, you're probably right. The main reason i put it there is for the whole area to have a lightsource and add in some cover for the attacking team. The "story" behind the map is something like, german attacked and seized the factory and the battle that is now taking place is the russian counter attack. I don't know tho, again: The focus of this map has never been realism (tho I of course try to make it look like a real place) so the story isnt all worked out. Mainly out of time restriction, but i am in no way making excuses for the map. For me its purly about gameplay but the thing you mention there isnt a big issue and so I can easily change it and I'm not dead set on a mission to make an unrealistic map so dont keep thoughts like this to yourself if you haave any more. They're more than welcome and I'll take care of as many things as possible
I got two months to make this map and i realized quickly that i wouldnt have time to realisticly and historicly (spelling? ) recreate a scenario from russian front, with all it means in terms of reference material and research, so i sort of went another direction. I looked at some russian factories but I also looked at abandoned buildings and factories in general (such as availabe at opacity.us or abandoned-places.com) to gather influences for the look and feel of the place. The actual design of the factory is purly based on what I think would make a really interesting battleground to fight it out in, RO-style. I figured, either i go all the way with realism and historically correctness or i simply do whats reasonable for me in 2 months and focus on good gameplay in a "general" ww2 russia setting.
With all that said, you guys giving me this feedback is awesome as it fills in on some of the research I never had time to conduct and small details I quite simply will never realize, and i expect even more of this after you playtest it. =)
Nestor, when you say "glass all across" do you mean that the actual ceiling would be made out of glass? The actual function for the moon-beam windows was initially to give the guys holding the center building a big advantage and have them go up there and snipe and pretty much have total battlefield control but i quickly realized that it would be realy unbalanced. I based that room on this picture:
http://www.opacity.us/image3486_walk.htm I think it has great scope at the size and giving the feeling that in the end, you're just a tiny person in a gigantic industrial room. I russified (yes, thats a word! Russifie = make more functional and stripped down=)) it a bit to make it look less pretty and artistic than in the picture.
I'm sort of into the idea of making a ceiling entirly out of iron bulkheads and dirty glass. That could be neat but we'll see. I really love the moon beams so whatever i do i'll try to work around the design to give the windows function rather than removing them.
The support for the pipe is a big placeholder that i figured i'd leave in for the first playable beta
We'll see tho, its not a very hard model to model or uvmap so maybe. In the final it'll surly be replaced. Its really hard to get something useful out of the picture you posted tho (its tiny!!!) but i'll look around for reference myself. Lemme know if you run over any other pictures with good reference.Monkwarrior, you're probably right.
The main reason i put it there is for the whole area to have a lightsource and add in some cover for the attacking team. The "story" behind the map is something like, german attacked and seized the factory and the battle that is now taking place is the russian counter attack. I don't know tho, again: The focus of this map has never been realism (tho I of course try to make it look like a real place) so the story isnt all worked out. Mainly out of time restriction, but i am in no way making excuses for the map. For me its purly about gameplay but the thing you mention there isnt a big issue and so I can easily change it and I'm not dead set on a mission to make an unrealistic map so dont keep thoughts like this to yourself if you haave any more. They're more than welcome and I'll take care of as many things as possible
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