RO: HoS tanks & vehicles [(UN)official thread]

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

Red Orchestra 2: Heroes Of Stalingrad


==Tanks & Vehicles==
-Official thread-

----------1. Confirmed vehicles----------
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Soviet:

• T-34/76 mod. 1942 (T-34 Model 1942 from N

 

[Merin Redplate]

It's a fine idea, but you'll still get people opening new threads on the said topic.

 

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

Uhm.....you're right....maybe i can list all the suggestions to prevent "double-suggestions" and list the confirmed features...

EDIT: OP backup lol

I have seen that there are many discussions about tanks in the forum, so i thought "why not opening a dedicated thread?"

In this thread we can ask info about vehicles, and/or we can post some new suggestions, instead of opening lot of threads about the same argument.

If you like this idea, then i will create a decent OP, if you dislike and prefer divided singular threads then i wont waste time for the creation of OP. As you want guys

 

[MagicSnake]

So this would be a mix of the facts thread and the suggestion thread, but for vehicles? Why not! the more the merrier, up to a point... but we haven't yet reached that point, so green light.

 

[DarkFlame7]

So this would be a mix of the facts thread and the suggestion thread, but for vehicles? Why not! the more the merrier, up to a point... but we haven't yet reached that point, so green light.

I wholeheartedly agree - not that my opinion matters. I'd like a compiled list of info on tanks for reference.

 

[Lezardo]

I have not heard anything about the transport vehicles in HOS, the half-track, for example if they know you will be there?

 

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

OMG i'm an idiot.....i forgotten to post a pair of reserved posts...LOL

 

[bluey]

I want confirmation what version of the tanks are going to be ingame, panzer III ausf J early or late? Panzer IV ausf G early with the extra 30mm armour or without?

 

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

I think Panzer III J will be the version with L/42 (but i hope to see even the L/60 version in the future, why not?) and the Panzer IV G will be the early version with 50mm standard armor.

 

[bluey]

Seems like a semi reasonable way to gimp the Panzer III to near the T70's level

 

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

Yes, i think that this is the reason. The tanks seem really equilibrated at the moment: Germans tanks have better firepower, better equipment/instrumentation and better crew, Soviets tanks have better speed/mobility and better armor, so, there isn't a specific tank that outclasses the others actually.

 

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

Ok, i started to work on OP. Please be patient, i'm going to finish it

Novfanaion, if i'll need to use my second post then i will PM you for deleting your first post. Actually there are no problems, so don't delete it

 

[Tank!]

Will there be a Panzer IV F1 to support our infantry in Stalingrad?

Seems like a semi reasonable way to gimp the Panzer III to near the T70's level

It seems the Germans are always gimped in equipment in these type of games. Seriously, why not a J1 with an L/60? Is this Heros of Operation Barbarossa or Stalingrad? Even if gimping by L/42 was the idea the L/42 should still be able to pierce the T-70's 35 mm nose and glacis at ~1,000 meters and ~200 meters respectively whereas the T-70's 45 mm weapon would be worthless at +75 meters against the Panzer III's 50 mm front armor.

 

[MagicSnake]

EDIT: skip this post

There was a post, somewhere, by one of the devs (I think Wilsonam) which stated which ammunition type was available for the tanks...
IIRC it was AP and HE for the soviets, and AP, HE and HEAT for the germans... but then again, maybe it's just a by-product of my imagination.

I'll update my post if I manage to find said post.

 

[Tank!]

it was AP and HE for the soviets, and AP, HE and HEAT for the germans....

No APBC for soviets and APCBC for Germans? No nebel rounds? And what of HEAT? Do I sense a Panzer IV F1 in the works?

 

[bluey]

The post that mentioned all the rounds was not a comment on the game, it was based on what rounds were available at the time.
Though, APBC and HE rounds are pretty much confirmed for the Russian tanks, and APCBC and HE for the Germans.

 

[MagicSnake]

Ok, I was wrong the other day
You we're right bluey, +1.
Here's the quote I was referring to (I found it, yay!):

Available at the time - APCBC, APCR (small quantities), HEAT, HE, Smoke for the Germans; for the Russians, pretty much the same, except (from memory) the HEAT wasn't available and the main AP round was APBC, But I am too lazy right now to check the details... as for which ones will make it into game - that's another matter!

(source: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=683064&postcount=4)

That sums it.

 

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

Thank you all for the positive feedbacks and for the help

Everyone can help in the OP creation by posting infos

@ Tank!: no, actually noone (of TWI) mentioned the Panzer IV F1

EDIT: anyone wants to create an image for the OP? I'm not able to use photoshop

EDIT 2 @ Tank!: i think that even Panzers IV equipped with long 75mm gun used some HEAT projectiles. Anyway, i suppose that the projectiles mentioned by Wilsonam are referred to 75mm and 76.2mm guns, right? Or is already started the development for DLC-tanks' shells?

 

[bluey]

EDIT 2 @ Tank!: i think that even Panzers IV equipped with long 75mm gun used some HEAT projectiles.

IIRC only the short version of the 75mm fired Gr. 38 Hl/x (Hohlladung - hollow charge). With the long 75 not needing it for anything.

Anyway, I suppose that the projectiles mentioned by Wilsonam are referred to 75mm and 76.2mm guns, right? Or is already started the development for DLC-tanks' shells?

Yeah, he was speaking about the 76.2mm and the 75mm KwK40.
The Pzgr. Patr. 39 APCBC (same name for the 50mm and 75mm round)
Sprgr.Patr.34 HE (same name for the 50mm and 75mm round)
and the BR-350 APBC (F34 76.2mm)
F-534 or OF-350 HE/HE-frag ? (F34 76.2mm)
BR-240 SP APBC (45mm model 38)
O-240 HE-frag? (45mm model 38)

I doubt we will see the Pzgr. Patr. 40 (APCR) and the BR-350P (APCR) Because they were rare, especially in the case of the BR350P

 

[ultraZ]

I doubt we see any APCBC or APBC outside the 75 or the 76.2 unless its modded in.