Riot Shield

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The_Holy_Diver

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Nope, its from COD and anything from COD or is widely used/popularized in COD will not be in KF.

DO NOT BASH CoD!! Just because it takes no skill to play doesnt mean it wont be good in Killing Floor!!!!!

JK :D

I hate the idea of putting anything CoD related in any great game. . . it would kill any game and make it a noob fest.

Just saying, I think I have seen this post along side the gunslinger one. . .
 
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BenioX

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Please, stop with these nonsense topics such as "riot shield", "COD weapons", "Sniper Rifles", "Gunslinger" and such. Seriously, that's nothing what community would like. Nor anything suiting Killing Floor, not to mention TWI would laugh their asses off seeing these ideas.
Plz, kill this topic :IS2:
 

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Nope, its from COD and anything from COD or is widely used/popularized in COD will not be in KF.
In that case, knives, AK47s, and frag grenades should not be KF. They need to go.


Please, stop with these nonsense topics such as "riot shield", "COD weapons", "Sniper Rifles", "Gunslinger" and such. Seriously, that's nothing what community would like. Nor anything suiting Killing Floor, not to mention TWI would laugh their asses off seeing these ideas.
Plz, kill this topic :IS2:
Do you have proof for all of your claims? I doubt it, but I would like to know anyway.
 
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Yomommassis

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...not to mention TWI would laugh their asses off seeing these ideas.
Just because some other game has it doesnt mean killingfloor is banned from the idea...if no one had an open mind to new ideas we would never see new content.

Incendiary rounds used to be considered the noob thing to suggest and anyone who wanted it was a troll..it COULDNT be put into killingfloor because "dur dur left 4 dead 2 dur hur"..now what do ya know..its in game and suddenly everyone loves it...

9mm with tactical knife

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=43152

YouTube - Killing Floor - 9mm With Tactical Knife Beta Test

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picture someone made of a riot shield concept in game​

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OneBloodyHero

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Just because some other game has it doesnt mean killingfloor is banned from the idea...if no one had an open mind to new ideas we would never see new content.

Incendiary rounds used to be considered the noob thing to suggest and anyone who wanted it was a troll..it COULDNT be put into killingfloor because "dur dur left 4 dead 2 dur hur"..now what do ya know..its in game and suddenly everyone loves it...

Totally Agree. Kinda getting annoyed with all this pretentious elevation of Killing Floor and its content, as if it sits on some great pedestal above all other games. KF shouldn't have flamethrowers because, well you know, Call of Duty: World at War has flamethrowers, that would be icky to add to KF.

LOVE KF, but get off your high horses when someone tries to simply ponder, suggest, or hint at adding a feature to KF which already exists in another, presumably heretic, game like COD, god forbid.

Praise be to :IS2:
 
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Totally Agree. Kinda getting annoyed with all this pretentious elevation of Killing Floor and its content, as if it sits on some great pedestal above all other games. KF shouldn't have flamethrowers because, well you know, Call of Duty: World at War has flamethrowers, that would be icky to add to KF.

LOVE KF, but get off your high horses when someone tries to simply ponder, suggest, or hint at adding a feature to KF which already exists in another, presumably heretic, game like COD, god forbid.

Praise be to :IS2:

Killing Floor should have flamethrowers.

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This is the KFMod. The modification of Unreal Tournament 2004.

This is the Flamethrower from said mod. This weapon was in the game, which was around in 2005.

Killing Floor had the Flamethrower first, so indeed it should be in Killing Floor.

As always, praise be to the :IS2:
 
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D-Es-C-H

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I've never played multiplayer COD, but I have played an old console FPS called Urban Chaos: Riot Response which featured a riot shield. IIRC, it worked pretty well.

I think this is actually not a bad idea, in theory. Among other things:

--it just makes sense that soldiers and police would use riot shields to protect themselves from hand-to-hand attacks by zeds;

--it would be especially useful for Berserkers and other players who like to melee a lot, by providing them with what is essentially another layer of armour;

--it would allow for some interesting visual distortion effects: as a transparent shield is damaged, it would become scratched and clawed and cracked, becoming less and less transparent;

--it would encourage players to actually use the machete, since it's the most powerful one-handed melee weapon available;

--it includes obvious disadvantages as well as advantages--more defence in exchange for less offence--especially if you have to drop it in order to wield a two-handed weapon.

The biggest problems I see with a riot shield are all practical--that is to say, with how to implement it in the game. You'd have to add new mechanics, including an alternate-alternate-fire if you wanted players to be able to bash with their shields as well as do weak and strong attacks with melee weapons. And you'd have to animate it, and make it fit with existing character models and animations. I'm not sure that it's worth all that effort.
 

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Killing Floor should have flamethrowers.
Killing Floor had the Flamethrower first, so indeed it should be in Killing Floor

Well, I agree. But the main thing is don't copy IDEAS from other games. And even if you do, change it's purpose and don't make it 100% rip-off. And really, Riot SHield is one of those elements KF won't take well. Why? Just think about it - guys with weapons, and then there comes a guy with shield and OPs them. DOesn't make sense now to make it in KF, does it?
 
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The_Holy_Diver

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Well, I agree. But the main thing is don't copy IDEAS from other games. And even if you do, change it's purpose and don't make it 100% rip-off. And really, Riot SHield is one of those elements KF won't take well. Why? Just think about it - guys with weapons, and then there comes a guy with shield and OPs them. DOesn't make sense now to make it in KF, does it?

You just happen to be right, if anything should be added to killing floor I think as you happen to agree with me, SHOULD NOT COME FROM CALL OF DUTY.

Honestly I like the idea of the riot shield, I really do. But as mentioned before it OPs the guy using it and makes him almost a :IS2:.

If it were to be put in the game I have a few questions:

- How big would it be, body length?

- What would the damage resistance be on it?

- How much would it weigh?

- Would you only be able to wield the riot shield?

- Can you switch between the shield and a primary weapon such as an AK47?

- Can you put spikes on the shield for fun? <not a real question but it would be fun no?
 
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phnx90

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You know, maybe this idea could work together with a nightstick, the latter which could have the ability to do limited damage but can instead disable or slow the movement of clots, gorefasts, bloats and scrakes for a few seconds (it won't stun the zed, meaning that it can still attack the player who's attacked it, meaning that other players must assume responsibility for killing the zed).

It'd highlight the zerker's role as a human shield quite literally (something TWI seems to be doing across other perks like the sharpshooter in the last patch), especially in tight spaces like office and biotics lab, where one or two berserkers can hold the line while other perks can gun them down. If zerkers can do this, then they'll perform a function other than a walking medic leveller, PLUS it will encourage teams to co-ordinate where the berserkers will go, encouraging communication and therefore teamwork...

Of course this will be of limited use on open maps like farm and can't be a feasible answer to an incoming fleshpound or sirens and husks. Attacking with the nightstick would also mean that the berserker will not be fully-protected by his shield and, if the idea of a berserker being too much of a tank is a problem, you could always give the shield hitpoints and thus needing repairs like armour.
 
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OneBloodyHero

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Killing Floor had the Flamethrower first, so indeed it should be in Killing Floor.

I know, I just used an example I found on the spot.

I'm not too enthusiastic to the idea of a riot shield, whether it is in COD or exists in real life, even though it would be pretty cool to test it out in game. The riot shield's integrity would eventually break from the pressure of the zeds, especially from scrakes and fleshpounds one would imagine. It could be like a shield in Mount and Blade:Warband (if any of you play that game), as the shield takes damage, its integrity wanes and eventually the shield shatters. If the riot shield was a temporary element in game, it may add a new dimension to gameplay... don't know... kinda cool idea.
 
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YoYoBatty

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In that case, knives, AK47s, and frag grenades should not be KF. They need to go.

Your not getting it are you? The knife and frags were from the first KF in 2005, before suggestions from COD never existed. The AK47 was decided by the developers not by the community.
 
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kaikid009

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I can't say this is solid idea. I mean what are you going to use it for? The husks fire blast seems a bit much for a riot shield to handle. The only time you would use it is against the patty.
 

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In that case, knives, AK47s, and frag grenades should not be KF. They need to go.

Do you have proof for all of your claims? I doubt it, but I would like to know anyway.
You mad, bro? You seem to be defending CoD rather ferociously.

Anyway, yeah, almost every CoD addition would ruin KF's balance and not suit the mood. Therefore, CoD suggestions should go burn to death in a crispy fire, miles away from KF.
I dislike these suggestions.
 
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OneBloodyHero

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I can't say this is solid idea. I mean what are you going to use it for? The husks fire blast seems a bit much for a riot shield to handle. The only time you would use it is against the patty.

I suppose they can be used like wielded doors; they block zeds for a period of time, except behind a riot shield you have a person.
 

The_Holy_Diver

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You mad, bro? You seem to be defending CoD rather ferociously.

Anyway, yeah, almost every CoD addition would ruin KF's balance and not suit the mood. Therefore, CoD suggestions should go burn to death in a crispy fire, miles away from KF.
I dislike these suggestions.

You put it alot nicer than I could have ever dreamed of saying it. Thank you!