Rifles with scopes concern

[mrmonkeh]

Hi all,

Long time listener, first time poster

I am massively looking forward to RO2's release, but have a concern. The experience and unlock system looks great and a lot of fun. However, one of the things I love about RO1 is the rifle play with the long distance, drawn out shoot-outs; I'm concerned that if over time everyone unlocks scopes for rifles it's going to become a sniper fest, and lose the fun, skilful, iron-sight rifle play mechanic

I know there will be limits on special weapons, but I haven't heard about a limit on upgraded weapons... What does everyone think?

Oh, and *ahem*, perhaps if I could have early access to the beta perhaps I would see how this is addressed and it would alleviate my concern? *ahem*

Cheers

Monkeh

 

[Derpus]

As far as I know, regular infantry rifles won't have scopes to be unlocked. If the sniper class have different scope unlocks it won't be an issue. I think Mkb might have a slight magnification unlock, but that will be in a limited class as well.

 

[Nallows]

I thought I read snipers were limited to 2 per team. Unless that was for a specific game mode, not sure.

 

[Nallows]

Nevermind.

 

[koschi]

ahem maybe you could just wait and see in the normal "closed" beta like we all cause it will be enought time to see.

oh and by the way you wont have scopes on your normal rifleman rifle.

 

[Reise]

It's been mentioned in an interview that unlocks won't break the class boundaries. You won't see riflemen running around with sniper rifles, or assault troops with machineguns, etc.

 

[Falkenhorst]

The only exception would be the MKb42 with ZF41 scope. Other then that scopes are restricted to snipers.

 

[NightriderAOF]

Sniper class slots are usually restricted to 1/2 slots on all maps except for custom sniper servers which play on custom sniper maps.

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

The MkB42 does get the Scope mount, but I'm pretty sure it's a weapon restricted to Elite Assault Class, which means that it will be very rare too.

I know that G41(w) and SVT-40 also get scope unlocks, but those are dedicated unlocks to the Sniper Class.

 

[Swor]

What!, no MG 34 with 4x scope and lazer dot? (Kidding , please don't kill me!)

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

Also, the ZF41 has a magnification of 1.5, so it's not really a sniper's scope. If the maps are of the size of old maps, that would be a marginal advantage at best.

 

[89ShadowUK]

So the unlocks are class restricted. This is good news for the internets!

I had the same slight concern. I can rest easy now, once I'm in the Beta ;D

 

[mrmonkeh]

Thanks guys

I did hear in an interview that one of the kar 98 unlocks was a scope though... That would scare me (the interview with the level designer chaP, will link to it later)

Cheers

Monkeh

 

[Clowndoe]

Thanks guys

I did hear in an interview that one of the kar 98 unlocks was a scope though... That would scare me (the interview with the level designer chaP, will link to it later)

Cheers

Monkeh

I think I know what interview you mean. I'm pretty sure he meant a better scope for the marksman class. So the scope just replaces another for the appropriate class.

 

[Nebfer]

Well if regular rifles get scopes as an unlock I would think they would be limited to the lower end of the spectrum, like the ZF-41.

I would also assume that they would be higher end unlocks.

 

[[5GTA] Juan]

I was really afraid about the unlocks... I don

 

[triple25mm]

I was really afraid about the unlocks... I don

 

[teemu92]

NO! since, just like RO1 you had 1 sniper per team, on some larger maps it was 2, wont be a problem. over half of the team will still be riflemen.

 

[Maizel]

over half of the team will still be riflemen.

Doubt it, to be honest. Maybe on particular servers, but as a general rule I wouldn;t say so.

And even if it were true, after players have had one or two days to unlock stuff, I doubt you'll see very many bolt action rifles being used, since there doesn;t appear to be a reason not to use semi autos when they come available to you.

 

[Clowndoe]

Doubt it, to be honest. Maybe on particular servers, but as a general rule I wouldn;t say so.

And even if it were true, after players have had one or two days to unlock stuff, I doubt you'll see very many bolt action rifles being used, since there doesn;t appear to be a reason not to use semi autos when they come available to you.

Wait, why is this so hard to get? (I mean this nicely in-case you can't tell). There are class limits, like in ROriginal. Rifleman and Semi-auto rifle (or elite rifle, I don't know yet) are separate classes, so riflemen will always have a scopeless (or a cheap scope at most, though I'm 99% sure that's not what TWI would do) bolt-action rifle, and no unlockable semi autos. On top of that, there's a limit to how many people get to be on semi-auto class. Finally, all classes (except for elite classes probably) will be available from start. So leveling up will have nothing to do with the number of semi-auto and scoped rifles there will be.

No sources, this is just my logical conclusion from what I gathered from the original and the lack of hard evidence to the contrary from interviews and such. Also, I don't know if you noticed but a lot of vets here claim to use solely bolt-action rifles, so there is a reason to use them even if you get the chance to use semis.