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Nice. Some bit of actual evidence. I don't know anything about the source, but I'm sure we might need to scrutinize it a bit.
If we can find a couple more sources that can validate those numbers would be great.
The logic behind that we have to show proof that something in fact did not exist is absurd. Thank christ our justice system doesn't work that way.
I would honestly have more respect for them if they just said, yeah we know that there is virtually no evidence whatsoever that MKBs were in Stalingrad. But ****, we just like them and we want to add it to our game. Not to mention if they stuck with the notion that there would only be one mkb for an entire team.
If we can find a couple more sources that can validate those numbers would be great.
The logic behind that we have to show proof that something in fact did not exist is absurd. Thank christ our justice system doesn't work that way.
I would honestly have more respect for them if they just said, yeah we know that there is virtually no evidence whatsoever that MKBs were in Stalingrad. But ****, we just like them and we want to add it to our game. Not to mention if they stuck with the notion that there would only be one mkb for an entire team.
*just to touch up on somethings that were said*
Supplies were sometimes a problem, but again, nowhere near what Hollywood portrays. The "worst" notable shortages were probably at positions like Brest Fortress (at the beginning of the war (considering they were caught off rather quickly). But it wasn't as if they had nothing at all.
Also, about soldiers speaking on the battlefield; people need to realize that the two armies had different styles (for the most part).
The Germans tended to be much more "strict" in combat, leaving most actions to the logical mind. You wouldn't hear them yelling too much.
The Russians, on the other hand, showed much more emotion in battle. They had much higher battle morale, as they knew that this was for their friends, families, and everything that they ever knew.
Supplies were sometimes a problem, but again, nowhere near what Hollywood portrays. The "worst" notable shortages were probably at positions like Brest Fortress (at the beginning of the war (considering they were caught off rather quickly). But it wasn't as if they had nothing at all.
Also, about soldiers speaking on the battlefield; people need to realize that the two armies had different styles (for the most part).
The Germans tended to be much more "strict" in combat, leaving most actions to the logical mind. You wouldn't hear them yelling too much.
The Russians, on the other hand, showed much more emotion in battle. They had much higher battle morale, as they knew that this was for their friends, families, and everything that they ever knew.
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Beating a Dead Horse: The Resurrection: The Thread - Part 56
Truth is the mkb42 was replicated by the thousands in the secret Nazi base in Antartica and then they were all beamed down in Stalingrad by Nazi flying saucers.
But since the Grey had just captured Aldebaran, the mkb42 were all stolen by the Nordics for their conter-offensive but then their saucer crashed near the location of the Wiking division.
Of course the field trial story is just part of a giant hoax.
But since the Grey had just captured Aldebaran, the mkb42 were all stolen by the Nordics for their conter-offensive but then their saucer crashed near the location of the Wiking division.
Of course the field trial story is just part of a giant hoax.
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From a similar thread waaay back in September.
Don't get the wrong impression though and think I support the damned thing--I can't wait for Classic Mode to see a whole lot less of all the rare weapons, especially the Mkb.
Nikita said:You see, that's what the supply officers think happened...
Actually, a certain Hauptsturmfuhrer Heinz was drunk on schnapps while on leave in November of 1942, staggered around the streets of Suhl, Germany, and stumbled across a truck parked outside the United Suhl-Zella Mehlis Armament Makers plant and guarded by six sentries. The sentries, catching sight of Heinz's pitiful state, made disparaging comments about his ability to hold his liquor, enraging him. An accomplished veteran of the Eastern Front, Heinz found little difficulty in beating up all six guards, the truck's driver, a hapless passing auto mechanic, and the weapons engineer overseeing the delivery. Suddenly tired after the physical exertion of the fight, he stole the truck rather than walk back to the city center.
Coming to his senses the next day, Heinz suddenly realized the implications of his actions. Opening the crates within the truck, he found no less than forty futuristic-looking combat rifles along with forty MP40 prototypes with side-by-side magazines. With remarkable clarity of planning despite his hungover state, Heinz admirably combined his two desires of removing the evidence of his theft while putting what he had found to good use. Using the top-level papers mandating priority transport for the truck's contents that he found inside the truck's cabin, Heinz drove straight to a rail yard shipping weapons to the East and ordered the rail personnel to transport them directly to his division near the Don. He emphasized to the old reservists manning the rail yard that due to the top-secret nature of the shipment, absolutely no records of the weapons' transport were to be created at any point.
At every rail station and during every cargo transfer along the way, the rail personnel carried out Heinz's instructions to the letter. In fact, at each stop, the crew of each successive train added details about the secretive officer who had delivered the weapons until, in Rostov, it was said that Albert Speer himself, accompanied by a platoon of Hitler's personal guard, had personally handed over the truck's contents.
By this time, Heinz's division was engaged in ferocious combat in the ruins of Stalingrad. They welcomed the secret weapons with open arms, and Heinz's grateful commander promptly issued them to the most outstanding fighters in the division. Upon Heinz's return several days behind the weapons he had sent, he was feted and lauded by his fellow soldiers, among whom the legend of Hauptsturmfuhrer Heinz's resourcefulness circulated orally even after his death in December until the division's final destruction in the Kessel several months later.
Since the truck driver, the six guards, the scientist, and the passing civilian had all been shot for failing to overcome a single completely drunk attacker, no written record of the incident remained.
Tripwire was told this story by an old Russian veteran who served at one of the POW camps for German soldiers from Stalingrad. He had heard it from the last surviving member of Heinz's company in 1944. I in turn peiced the details together from the diary of Heinz's landlady in Suhl as well as the journal of a Hiwi rail worker in Rostov.
Don't get the wrong impression though and think I support the damned thing--I can't wait for Classic Mode to see a whole lot less of all the rare weapons, especially the Mkb.
Pretend the name of the game is Red Orchestra 2 : Ostfront 41-45....
I'm sure a lot of custom maps are going to be released that should take place in 1944 or 45... so I'm kind of glad that the MkB is there so it can be on those levels. That being said, I agree admins should turn it off on all Stalingrad levels to help with immersion.
I'm sure a lot of custom maps are going to be released that should take place in 1944 or 45... so I'm kind of glad that the MkB is there so it can be on those levels. That being said, I agree admins should turn it off on all Stalingrad levels to help with immersion.
He got it wrong, probably by mixing up the Mkbs made by different manufacturers. 50 Mkb42(h) were already made in June 1942 of which (I think, have to look this up later) 35 underwent field testing. More exact numbers and history in "Infantriewaffen gestern 1918-1945", from Reiner Wollert and G
Which was exactly what the germans were thinking, too.
Much higher battle morale...so this explains the NKVD and the commissars then?
I don't know I don't think we're beating the dead horse now I think the beating phase is over and it's now been made to stand trial and the prosecution just made a very convincing argument
Agree aswell. The 15-round mag would make SO much more usefull than the AVT. On topic now, I think Classic Mode is the only hope!
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