Variety is good. But I'd like to see at least 2 new zeds and the Scout/Gunslinger perk. That would spruce up the game quite a bit.
[REDONE] Why do you think a bren gun would be a bad idea?
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Variety is good. But I'd like to see at least 2 new zeds and the Scout/Gunslinger perk. That would spruce up the game quite a bit.
I was actually hoping Commando would get an LMG at some point, a Bren would fit perfectly. I'd be even happier if he got an MG42.
I'm kind of tired of Commando's guns because they're all basically the same with tiny differences. The AK, M42Bwhatever, and the Tommy Gun are barely different at all.
Hell, I would have even been happy with the Tommy Gun having a 100 round drum mag just because it would be somewhat close to an LMG.
Anyways yeah, Commando needs more variety in his weapons. Scar and FAL are basically the same, and all the others kind of blend together for me because I can barely tell the difference between them statistically speaking.
I'm kind of tired of Commando's guns because they're all basically the same with tiny differences. The AK, M42Bwhatever, and the Tommy Gun are barely different at all.
Hell, I would have even been happy with the Tommy Gun having a 100 round drum mag just because it would be somewhat close to an LMG.
Anyways yeah, Commando needs more variety in his weapons. Scar and FAL are basically the same, and all the others kind of blend together for me because I can barely tell the difference between them statistically speaking.
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What I want for Christmas is a Gewehr 41 gun with a compass in the stock and this thing which tells time I think that everybody should have a Gewehr 41 gun. They're very good for Christmas. I don't think that a Bren's a very good Christmas present.
How about no? Both of your comments make no sense whatsoever, especially KON_Air, to the point I would dare not to take a crack at it, and to just inform people to ignore it. As for you, your comment makes no sense because of the fact you want to give a GERMAN gun as a christmas present with smart-mouth british soldiers. Just...WHAT? Not only that but it's a rifle ffs, we're talking about a heavy caliber LMG, not a weapon the Sharpshooter will use and even then, there's a british weapon called the Lee-Einfield. :I
What is what? The weapon he's talking about? http://weapons-of-war.ucoz.ru/_pu/1/64880.jpg some kind of old bolt action rifle. I have no idea, both of them made my brain explode for a second.
I mean "and what is this?" as in "what the hell are you RO nuts doing suggesting that a game have really unrealistic, outlandish, pointless, generally unwanted additions?"
HAH! Oh yes, I agree on that, even if the excuse is 'for sidegrade style/assortments' the weapon still looks like utter crap. I would still bend over backwards for the Lee-Einfield to jump into the fray or an old beaten up Hunting Rifle. At least those look sexy. Anyways, I hope your Bren Gun suggestion comes in, I'm FINALLY getting my hands on the Commando (now lvl.3) and so far, I enjoy it, except using the SCAR or FAL, both weapons feel derp imo, small magazine kills it for me when I want to unload against a swarm of Zeds. Thus I stick around with the AK47/Mk2b I believe it's called, great combo just wish the Bullpup could slide in there u.u
.As for the Bren Gun, it would be perfect weapon for someone like me, into 'quantity' more then quality, which is what the Bren Gun was about with it's larger magazine size then the BAR, and even so, .30 caliber is a pretty big damn quality if you ask me XD would love to tear around with that in my hands.
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And you are?
So giving them Tommy gun makes sense. Having replicated zombie species that come out of no where make sense. British army personnel with a katana makes sense. Self-charging healing potion syringe makes sense too?
I didnt know we were going for 100% accuracy like Red Orchestra 2.
What I dont understand is you not getting that this is just a game with as much an unrealistic setting has a bunch of british soldiers having a G41 semi automatic rifle.
real smart to think everyone who plays RO is a realism nut. Try to think before posting a dumb comment.
Also, maybe you should take a peek into RO2 and see how realism rolls now in that community.
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HAH! Oh yes, I agree on that, even if the excuse is 'for sidegrade style/assortments' the weapon still looks like utter crap. I would still bend over backwards for the Lee-Einfield to jump into the fray or an old beaten up Hunting Rifle. At least those look sexy. Anyways, I hope your Bren Gun suggestion comes in, I'm FINALLY getting my hands on the Commando (now lvl.3) and so far, I enjoy it, except using the SCAR or FAL, both weapons feel derp imo, small magazine kills it for me when I want to unload against a swarm of Zeds. Thus I stick around with the AK47/Mk2b I believe it's called, great combo just wish the Bullpup could slide in there u.u
As for the Bren Gun, it would be perfect weapon for someone like me, into 'quantity' more then quality, which is what the Bren Gun was about with it's larger magazine size then the BAR, and even so, .30 caliber is a pretty big damn quality if you ask me XD would love to tear around with that in my hands.
how about learn how to use guns instead of trying to nerf the game.
Perfect weapon for someone who likes to unload an entire clip into a fleshpound or a scrake? Learn to use a crossbow and yes, even as a commando.
your trolling/flaming skills are terrible and you need to try harder. Your post makes no sense but still tries to insult others around who disagrees with you, because if a person likes quantity over quality, you should suddenly label them as a 'noob' because they love the feeling of unloading an entire clip into an enemy, this is like telling a Commando he sucks because he prefers using the Ak47/MK2b over the Scar usual handout most Commandos do in a typical boring fashion. You should think before judging someone without even knowing their profile, personality, or skillset. 'nerfing the game' because why? Because we're giving versatility to a perk? Is that called 'nerfing the game'?
finally, nice triple posting, it's quite hilarious to try to read all of what you just spoke, seeing as yes, the others make no sense, but to add a completely derp weapon out of the blue that isn't very popular in today's world or the OLD world war to be exact makes it a questionable one to state. You could've stated the Mauser K98, or KAR 98K with a scope and we would've nodded because of a nice old war style for SS or bolt-action feel, but this weapon itself, just by the looks, is a laughing stock and a joke. Even the very issues of this weapon and the short term it came out gives it a good damn reason why it was never shown in games and why it will never be in them. At least the German weaponry I listed is very well famous for their use, and advances.
Another note, is how you state bringing the Bren gun, a pure-british-based weapon, will nerf the game even further, when it has so much cons to it, that I doubt you really looked hard enough to see why people nod to this addition of a weapon.
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None of this would have happened if you just left my opinion to mine. No one forced your arm to write a cocky reply saying that you dont understand my post and no one would even care to know why you dont understand it. Unfortunately the idiocy is on your part this time no matter how you try to look intelligent with passive aggressively turning my reply as a trolling/inflamming intent. There is already a plethora of weapons to choose from. I dont see any point in increasing the pool because people have beaten this game without your bren. What comes into play is your desire for a new weapon that suits your personality. Its a team game and every class serves its purpose. You do the math.
You should think before judging someone without even knowing their profile, personality, or skillset, you said. You should practice what you preach.
It is even doubly more ridiculous to read how contradictory your words are. Bolt action rifle when there already is a winchester? The G41 does not have a magazine which means increased reload time to compensate for its increased power compared to winchester. It sure beats your argument of pure-british-based weapon that just fits your style.
States the person who has already been insulting others off the bat because one disagrees. "being cocky"=/=disagreeing, People have opinions, keep it that way, and it's the internet, in fact the world as well, lives with the "if you don't like other people's criticism and viewpoints on your opinion, then you should probably keep that opinion to yourself".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewehr_41 judging by your 'facts' you're wrong. The G41 DOES have a magazine, and it's bolt-action, however due to the fact it's non-detachable, makes it a sluggish as hell to reload. This does not beat my argument at all, in fact, it supports that this weapon shouldn't even be close to Killing Floor at all. We already have several weapons that have a 'slow' reload speed, and if in the hands of an lvl.6 SS, it's comes to the point of no balance whatsoever. Like the M99, when in the hands of a lvl.1 SS it was just too sluggish to really get fire down the range, until then they acquired the reload speed, which then made the gun just plain ridiculous. What makes you think this is any different?
Finally, you're still bickering about this rifle on a Bren Gun subject, if you want this weapon to be out there so badly, why not make a topic and see if the community agrees with you? Overall you're being ignorant to think I'm wanting this weapon in because 'it fits' my style, you seem to throw this up as if this is the only thing I'm agreeing with everyone because of just personal taste. How silly of you, I enjoy the idea of this weapon addition because it actually increases the versatility of the Commando and gives it what every other perk already has: A heavy hitter with it's own significant consequences when using, yet it's own positives when using it.
Finally, it's not nice to call others idiots if they do not understand where your logic is. It makes you look rather douchey, instead, explain your logic to make others agree.
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If you want to play fine dissection of the words, fine. I will bite.
What part of my reply to you constitute as an insult.
"And you are? [What or who are you to warrant responding in such a manner?]
So giving them Tommy gun makes sense. [Obviously doesn't] Having replicated zombie species that come out of no where make sense. [No] British army personnel with a katana makes sense. [Not efficient, but ok, this is a game] Self-charging healing potion syringe makes sense too? [Sarcastic comment that drives home the message]
I didnt know we were going for 100% accuracy like Red Orchestra 2. [Double entendre, if you have ventured into the RO2 forum]
What I dont understand is you not getting that this is just a game with as much an unrealistic setting has a bunch of british soldiers having a G41 semi automatic rifle." [Again, I gave my opinion in the original post. Your response to my opinion, take it or not, serves even less purpose than my original post. Every one's entitled to his/her own opinions and I gave mine. Your reply is not an opinion. It's a comment to belittle those with differing opinion.]
"how about learn how to use guns instead of trying to nerf the game. [If you are familiar with all the guns, you will find quickly there really is no reason for additional guns functionality or versatility wise. The whole point of adding extra guns is to make it more fun. Technicality (i.e. the gun is made in Britain so it belongs in the game) of an object does not serve a point (refer to my sarcastic comments about katana). Just because I disapprove of the bren, it does not mean devs are going to reject the idea. But do realize that this is more of your personal affinity towards the weapon and it serves little purpose in the game other than to fulfill your own entertainment.]
Perfect weapon for someone who likes to unload an entire clip into a fleshpound or a scrake? [Reinforcing the fact that you need to fulfill your own want.] Learn to use a crossbow and yes, even as a commando." [This is not hard to do or does it require having a bren, and will be even more efficient and possibly more versatile than having a bren. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't expect a bren to pop a scrakes's head with quick burst of bren or even something close to half clip.]
Explain to me how exactly these would be considered insult, compared to your sharp comment:
"How about no? [A direct opening with intention to shoot down someone's opinion? Bad start] Both of your comments make no sense whatsoever, especially KON_Air, to the point I would dare not to take a crack at it, and to just inform people to ignore it. [People did ignore it on their own volition and cognition. Your color commentary was not needed] As for you, your comment makes no sense because of the fact you want to give a GERMAN gun as a christmas present with smart-mouth british soldiers. [Britain is fairly close to Germany. It will not be proposterous for antique guns to be lying around from WW2 era. And do realize that there already is a Thompson gun which is American. There is a Japanese katana. And a random husk gun. So far you make a poor point] Just...WHAT? [This comment alone would've been sufficient for this entire reply] Not only that but it's a rifle ffs, we're talking about a heavy caliber LMG, not a weapon the Sharpshooter will use and even then, there's a british weapon called the Lee-Einfield. :I [If you read the pole, it says 'Why do you think a bren gun would be a bad idea?' It doesn't restrict this thread to discuss only about the commando class weapons, although the gun would be used by the commando class. It is rather an open ended question to which I have appropriately answered. Your reply on the other hand, does not answer the question nor is it justified by the domain of the question]"
None of your comments were warranted to that extent. Considering my replies were as a result of your comment, you lose that argument yet again.
If you read the link you posted, it is a semi automatic. It is not bolt action. A bolt action was to be included in case semi automatic system failed. Was to be included does not equal is included. Do explain how me preferring a sluggish weapon supports your point of argument which is supported by your want for a more efficient weapon fitting the specific purpose you have in your mind that still has no place in modern british army.
And case in point, the M99 is yet another weapon added because someone wanted it or because there were demands for it. Like you said, it's just plain ridiculous. It's just plain ridiculous to add more and more efficient weapons for the lvl 6s to use.
Sluggish weapon has more room for balance being that it is less perfect or efficient weapon. You say it has no place on technical analysis. I don't argue against that. But then technical analysis really has no place as a basis for any argument for this game. And that is my point.
P.S. During Christmas, you might want to watch a movie called A Christmas Story. It may have been a bit of an esoteric allusion to the movie in my first comment, but I was under the impression that most Americans have at least watched this movie once. I will gladly admit fault on my Vermutung, but still this does not justify any of the comments I received.
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Huh... You do make a point then. My mistake and my apologies, I took you for the wrong crowd, which is also silly of me, suddenly assuming others as the riff-raff that desired the M99 so, now that you explained it, and now with thinking progress on my hand, I guess it wouldn't be so bad to add that...huh...and Now that you think of it, the Bren Gun is basically the same format, heavy hitter, slow reload and a pain to maintain. Very interesting.
Admittedly, I was not in a good mood to start with, but I can understand you just said what you wanted in a different way than I would've expected.
I was happy with the original set of weapons, which is dating before even the katana got added. I'm just throwing my suggestion out there. WW2 stuff is of interest to me, but I am not a realism freak. Even went back to buy the deluxe version of RO2 just to get the German skin
That is why C_Gibby's comment was genuinely dumb. He's not dumb but his comment is.
This is the line from the movie:
Ralphie: "'What I want for Christmas. What I want for Christmas is a Red Ryder BB gun with a compass in the stock and this thing which tells time.' Wow, that's great. 'I think that everybody should have a Red Ryder BB gun. They're very good for Christmas. I don't think that a football's a very good Christmas present.'"
I was happy with the original set of weapons, which is dating before even the katana got added. I'm just throwing my suggestion out there. WW2 stuff is of interest to me, but I am not a realism freak. Even went back to buy the deluxe version of RO2 just to get the German skin
That is why C_Gibby's comment was genuinely dumb. He's not dumb but his comment is.
This is the line from the movie:
Ralphie: "'What I want for Christmas. What I want for Christmas is a Red Ryder BB gun with a compass in the stock and this thing which tells time.' Wow, that's great. 'I think that everybody should have a Red Ryder BB gun. They're very good for Christmas. I don't think that a football's a very good Christmas present.'"
Ha! Now it makes sense, I'm just glad to finally understand, a friend of mine is also a WW2 fan, his love is the BAR, so it was funny to see him suddenly raise an eyebrow at his viewpoint of the Bren Gun being added and not his beloved BAR. Overall you're correct, the more weapons, the better..just hope they patch and fix the current balance before we get more presents in christmas.
Of course, there is the Mkb42... Hot topic of discussion in RO2 forum for its existence being historically inaccurate. Be it Bren or BAR, I would welcome it. But I just really like the sluggish and cumbersome G41 from RO1. Been posting about it for a while and Im sure Tripwire will never make a DLC for it since I am the only one that wants it.
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