Red Orchestra adds Steamworks

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Deeival

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Dumba, and all you have to do now, is find their steam clan page, and look at where they are playing, and join them...

Problem is half the people dont use Steam friends or are not on the clan page.

Edit: That also required me to bring up the steam browser and click around which is a few unnecessary extra steps. There is no way you're gonna talk your way out this one TWI :p

Edit2: I just tried it... it does not work at all. If someone is not in my friends list I cant even see what server he is in. Just join it, which is pretty retarded.
 
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Duiveltje

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agreed why was it taken out? Does it increase the load of the masterserver and thus the costs? If this isnt significant, did they take it out because steam wants to push there new feature through? Either way, why cant ppl decide what they want to use for themself? Choice isnt a bad thing and well if you like steam friends or what ever it is called go have fun with that. But if you like the buddy thingy, then why cant we just keep using that.:confused:
 

Yoshiro

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It was taken out because the steam master server does not support that exact functionality (but has a similar one with steam friends). TWI no longer runs an unreal engine master server, everything is handled in the steam back end now.
 

Monstar

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No offense, but I think most people especially clans and vets of RO want the old buddy list back. It's nice to be able to join through steam but it's not nearly as efficient as the old buddy list.
 

REZ

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Well it isnt the end of the world, but it is a big pain in the arse. This next statement will be wholly unpopular, but its just another example of choice being whittled down. Homogenize me, please! :rolleyes::D

Can the devs (or Yoshi) explain how the 'security features' affect the AntiBS mutator made by worluk? Do they have to do with gameplay at all, or is it security in a sense of piration (i made that last word up just now :D)?
 

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Can the devs (or Yoshi) explain how the 'security features' affect the AntiBS mutator made by worluk? Do they have to do with gameplay at all, or is it security in a sense of piration (i made that last word up just now :D)?

Same question! :)
 

BlackLabel

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Removing a well working feature with the mediocre Steam Friends thinngy isent really the best way. The Friends list was very easy and you dont have ALL the claners in your steam friends list anyways...please get it back in. Removing a good working feature isent really the way to go....:(
 

REZ

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Ok, so it works in conjunction with worluks magnificent effort - fantastic. Should we continue to run the AntiBS mutator, or do the new security efforts replace this?
 

Blimey

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buddy's list

buddy's list

"Please put it back"!!!....there are people I've had on my Buddy's list ever since I start playing RO.....two years of good people...gone!!!
 

Yoshiro

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I don't want to say exactly what it does at this point REZ, but I would think to keep running Worluk's as well. You can never have too much security.
 

Dumba [cro]

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Dumba, and all you have to do now, is find their steam clan page, and look at where they are playing, and join them...

But maybe they don't have a steam community page. Maybe it's a gigantic hassle to hunt them thru steams bloatware menus and the incredibly slow quasi web-browser. Maybe when ppl have a match they used to be able to just sad "hey, find us thru the buddies list" - all it takes to get together.

Buddies list was quick, simple, powerful, and just one mouse squeek away.

So I understand it's been done out of technical/economic reasons, but it does not take away from the fact it's a giant leap backwards into the well of RO-Sparta, regarding the ease of finding ppl online.

We had a perfectly good in-game method. For whatever reason, it's been replaced by a clumsy less powerful bloated shadow.

Howgh. Undersecretary of shrub in the Ministry of small green leafy things that smell bad hath spoken.
 

Deeival

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Ok, so it works in conjunction with worluks magnificent effort - fantastic. Should we continue to run the AntiBS mutator, or do the new security efforts replace this?

Yes, keep running worluks mutator. It's supposed to catch a few more things that can be done in theory but havent actually showed up yet.
But the hex stuff is fixed how - certains Russians will have to play with recoil now :p


So I understand it's been done out of technical/economic reasons, but it does not take away from the fact it's a giant leap backwards into the well of RO-Sparta, regarding the ease of finding ppl online.
It's a trap!
 

REZ

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Ok, thats cool. Thanks for the info. I was more or less concerned about possible problems arising from using both and whether or not admins should make adjustments to their servers. We shall keep AntiBS running :).
 

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GJ to the TWI crew and those awesome testers... :D

The buddy list thing is a big step forward IMO with the in-game and out of game inclusion. I think a lot of people have an "issue" with it since they don't know you can access the Community while in-game.
 

EvilHobo

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The buddy list thing is a big step forward IMO with the in-game and out of game inclusion. I think a lot of people have an "issue" with it since they don't know you can access the Community while in-game.

Not only is it an extra hassle, it conflicts with my Logitech SetPoint technology and disables my thumb mouse button which is why I disable Steam Friends from opening up or having an effect while I am in-game. I have to exit and restart RO in order to return functionality.

It's a big step backwards, I'm afraid.