I know where you are going there and I kinda agree with you. However keep in mind that AI and gamemodes are programmer tasks while sounds are the sound guy jobs. No really any overlap here
Realistic "tactical shooter" on the horizon : Ground Branch
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I know where you are going there and I kinda agree with you. However keep in mind that AI and gamemodes are programmer tasks while sounds are the sound guy jobs. No really any overlap here
Fair question.
Because we are prioritizing the areas that we can completely control within our severely limited budget and resources. Our Producer, the guy doing the VO in the latest videos, is also a sound guy. So he, along with another sound guy, have all the personal equipment to do this. Therefore it doesn't require any more money. They don't program so can't work on AI. They don't do 3d art so can't work on content like that.
UE3 bots suck. Just ask the guys of TWI. So to do AI right requires middleware and someone that can utilize it to it's potential. We don't have the means to do that right now.
So we ARE prioritizing and focusing on what we are currently equipped to handle.
We also firmly believe that the small details are what will give the player that truly immersive feel. It will be what grounds the player in the world. It's one aspect of the design that makes us different from anyone else.
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Thank you! That is the spirit of Kickstarter right there.
We are working on something to go into a bit more detail about the game modes. Stay tuned!
I think Jsonedecker covered it. Though we will see better AI and co-op, assuming the PvP game sells well enough. Which makes this worth backing, IMO.
I really doubt we will hit $700,000 up front as funding has been rather low.
I'm thinking of doubling my pledge if I can afford it still. Considering I'm on the road it takes quite the chunk out of my budget but I might go from 140 (125+shipping cost) to 265$. I really want to see this game come out. I love what they are doing with the project, it's just too promising and meticulously detailed to fail.
If anybody ever sighs about the fact that tactical gaming isn't what it used to be, now is the time to step up. If you don't pledge for this project than you are becoming part of the problem and imho lose all right of complaining about the current state of gaming. If we don't step up for a tactical shooter that so clearly wants to go back to the golden days of the genre, what message do we send? We should be all over this game like freaking warrior ants. This is not a fight for survival of the genre because it has long since died. We all love zombies, so let's bring it back from the grave!
If anybody ever sighs about the fact that tactical gaming isn't what it used to be, now is the time to step up. If you don't pledge for this project than you are becoming part of the problem and imho lose all right of complaining about the current state of gaming. If we don't step up for a tactical shooter that so clearly wants to go back to the golden days of the genre, what message do we send? We should be all over this game like freaking warrior ants. This is not a fight for survival of the genre because it has long since died. We all love zombies, so let's bring it back from the grave!
saw this last week on KS... looks interesting but with 13 days to go and a helluva way to the target I don't know if it can make it.
FPS games are everywhere so no one feels to keen on funding a new one (that's my 2 cents anyways)
Wish the devs the best of luck though, I like what they're aiming for.. Other than that I have my goggles on Arma III
FPS games are everywhere so no one feels to keen on funding a new one (that's my 2 cents anyways)
Wish the devs the best of luck though, I like what they're aiming for.. Other than that I have my goggles on Arma III
So why not pledge? If it doesnt make it, you won't lose a dime.
If it does make it, you get an awesome game that's one of a kind. If everybody thinks "It won't make it so I wont bother" it's definitely not going to get there.
FPS games might be everywhere, but none of them are this kind of FPS. There is a BIG difference between them.
Yes, Kickstarter only charges your pledge if the goal amount is reached within the time frame. You won't lose any money if they don't reach the goal.
Btw:
Jonathan Conley (producer) and John Sonedecker (founder of BFS) are going to be doing a AskMeAnything on reddit Sunday 06/24/2012 at 4pm EST.
Btw:
Jonathan Conley (producer) and John Sonedecker (founder of BFS) are going to be doing a AskMeAnything on reddit Sunday 06/24/2012 at 4pm EST.
b-b-b-b-ut Arma 3!
I'll take another look at ground branch, last I looked the video demo was an obstacle course of targets to shoot at, I'd like to see a little more progress in an FPS "in progress." Heck I don't want another Ro2 release day on my hands
Without proper funding there won't be any progress. But really, if you look at some of the other game projects on Kickstarter, I can't recall a single one that has as much to show for itself as GB has right now. Pretty much all of the major mechanics are in there already, just not polished and finished. And they can't put the finishing touch on there without funding. It's not going to get there on it's own. ArmA 3 is nice and all but surely you can spare 15$? If you love tactical shooters right now isn't the time to be cheap. Buy less crap in the steam sales and spend that money on a game that might last you for years.
Like SiC said, Ground Branch has much more actual footage to show than any other game I've seen on Kickstarter. Most Kickstarter games are either just ideas or nice mockups of concept artwork.
Kickstarter is about believing in a developer, believing in an idea. If they had the resources the polish their game to show near beta MP footage etc. they wouldn't be on Kickstarter.
Best thing IMO is, if you don't really get excited by the basic footage they have right now, to just read the KS page. And if that sounds like something you would like, or like a developer you would believe in, you might want to make a pledge to support them
Kickstarter is about believing in a developer, believing in an idea. If they had the resources the polish their game to show near beta MP footage etc. they wouldn't be on Kickstarter.
Best thing IMO is, if you don't really get excited by the basic footage they have right now, to just read the KS page. And if that sounds like something you would like, or like a developer you would believe in, you might want to make a pledge to support them
This is how I feel. If you really don't like donating for a project that is of doubtful quality (anything Kickstarter related is simply because it is unfinished) just remember that $15 does not buy you much now days in terms of games anyways.
If the final game turns out to be something you don't care for, you have a Steam CD key and can probably sell it for what you paid for it.
b-b-b-b-ut Arma 3!
I'll take another look at ground branch, last I looked the video demo was an obstacle course of targets to shoot at, I'd like to see a little more progress in an FPS "in progress." Heck I don't want another Ro2 release day on my hands
We all knew what RO2 would be like before it shipped. My mistake was pre-ordering it hoping there would be larger changes before it was too late.
BFS have a different stance compared to TWI: no compromise. A year before release we all knew where TWI was headed, but BFS is not willing to casualize the game for the masses.
ArmA 3 seems nice, but it will have many of the same awful issues that plague ArmA 2. I doubt BIS will ever get around to changing some of the horrible design decisions (fire mode/grenade selector being one button as an example). With Ground Branch, we are talking about a tactical shooter made from the ground up. They are pushing forward player movement, weapon modeling, and player loadout editing and more.
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For those that do not know, if you pledge, you will get Ground Branch on Steam as well as a Steam-less, DRM free version.
Two options. If you find out you'd like the convenience, use the Steam version. If you don't want Steam running in the background or auto updating, uninstall it and install the DRM-less version.
Two options. If you find out you'd like the convenience, use the Steam version. If you don't want Steam running in the background or auto updating, uninstall it and install the DRM-less version.
any info out yet on when the alpha / beta is? Im probably going to go for a 100$ donation so I can atleast get the alpha.
I've been twitching for lack of some good tac shooters for a long time.. This and Alliance the silent war are two that I am keeping my eye on...
I've been twitching for lack of some good tac shooters for a long time.. This and Alliance the silent war are two that I am keeping my eye on...
It will probably be make or break. Even if they have alternate routes, you would probably be looking at years and years of extra delays, if it will ever happen.
A video about Ground Branch by SideStrafe:
◀Ground Branch - Kickstarter Spotlight - YouTube
I believe they said a few months after the Kickstarter concludes, assuming they get the funding.