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Oh and another list, this time of German divisions involved in the Ardennes offensive:

Wehrmacht:
2nd Panzer Division
9th Panzer Division
Panzer Lehr Division
26th Volksgrenadier Division
Fuhrer Begleit Brigade (nearly division strength)
18th Volksgrenadier Division
62nd Volksgrenadier Division
116th Panzer Division
560th Volksgrenadier Division
167th Volksgrenadier Division
12th Volksgrenadier Division
277th Volksgrenadier Division
3rd Panzergrenadier Division
246th Volksgrenadier Division
272nd Volksgrenadier Division
326th Volksgrenadier Division
9th Volksgrenadier Division
15th Panzergrenadier Division
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Alexander Ostmann

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Learn 2 history.


Quick list of German divisions involved in the fighting in Normandy:

Infantry divisions:

77, 84, 85, 89, 91 Luftlande, 243, 265, 266, 271, 272, 275, 276, 277, 326, 343, 346, 352, 363,
708, 709, 711, 716, 16 Luftwaffe Feld Div

Airborne:
2. (only the 6th reg,) 3, 5, 6, (only a combatgroup)

Armoured:

Lehr. 2. 9. 21. 116. 1ss. 2ss. 9.ss 10.ss 12.ss

Mech:

17.ss
My bad, my post was able to be taken too literally. At some point in every engagement except the actual beach landings, Americans were always at some point fighting SS elements, where on the Eastern Front, it was usually the Heer.
 

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And I can walk on water.

If you look at the orders of battle, it really isn't. I feel like you interpreted my post as saying "Americans mostly and exclusively fought the SS".

You post says that the Americans mostly fought the SS, which means that the vast majority of units that they fought against would have to be WSS in order for your statement to be true, which isn't the case. Oh and in Normandy the Americans actually didn't face many SS units, the Brits however did since the Germans concentrated their tanks around Caen, due to more suitable terrain for tanks.
 
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Alexander Ostmann

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You post says that the Americans mostly fought the SS, which means that the vast majority of units that they fought against would have to be WSS in order for your statement to be true, which isn't the case. Oh and in Normandy the Americans actually didn't face many SS units, the Brits however did since the Germans concentrated their tanks around Caen, due to more suitable terrain for tanks.
Then I definitely phrased it wrong because that was not the point I was trying to make.

I'm not talking about the Hitler Jugend (whom did mostly face only Commonwealth forces), as many other SS forces faced Americans throughout the western front (especially in the Ardennes Offensive).

People want to portray the SS because they do have fantastic battle dress, and they are commonly (if not mistakenly) attributed to being the "elite" of Germany. And those "living historians" are going to find engagements their particular unit participated in that saw Americans because they want to reenact it.
 

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I really don't understand GD to be honest. They were exclusively Eastern Front yet they're all over every reenactment I've ever been to.

At least the 79.ID was on the Ostfront (Destroyed in Stalingrad, Kuban Bridgehead, Destroyed in Romania, etc.) and took part in the Battle of the Bulge.

I think it's the "elite" factor involved.
 

Alexander Ostmann

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I really don't understand GD to be honest. They were exclusively Eastern Front yet they're all over every reenactment I've ever been to.

At least the 79.ID was on the Ostfront (Destroyed in Stalingrad, Kuban Bridgehead, Destroyed in Romania, etc.) and took part in the Battle of the Bulge.

I think it's the "elite" factor involved.
Hey, can't blame people for wanting to wear jack boots since they and only a few other units got new ones later in the war! :D
 

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I really don't understand GD to be honest. They were exclusively Eastern Front yet they're all over every reenactment I've ever been to.

At least the 79.ID was on the Ostfront (Destroyed in Stalingrad, Kuban Bridgehead, Destroyed in Romania, etc.) and took part in the Battle of the Bulge.

I think it's the "elite" factor involved.

I think people like the cuff titles the most and that is what they factor into their decision of what unit they portray.
 

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Hey, can't blame people for wanting to wear jack boots since they and only a few other units got new ones later in the war! :D

it was mostly low boots in late war.

some shows will say no to waffen-ss, or other rennactors (Even wehrmacht units) try to stop W-SS units.

I don't really care to be honest.


oh and have a look at these tossers lol (there not reenactors)
[url]http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/49245 ... t-you-here[/URL]
 

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People want to portray the SS because they do have fantastic battle dress, and they are commonly (if not mistakenly) attributed to being the "elite" of Germany. And those "living historians" are going to find engagements their particular unit participated in that saw Americans because they want to reenact it.

Which begs the question are they doing it because they want to look cool or are they doing it because they find it interesting to hypotethically act plausible scenarios soldiers would be involved in and actually go out, arrange some events (private or not) with the intension of actually camping and say living (for the most part) under field conditions, dry humping the ground as physical exercise and some other things which are fairly common around the frontline, also including but not limited to looking like ****, bearing with some non-ideal ground and weather conditions within reason and such? Sure it's a hobby but unless you're portraying some garrison\barracks guard it's pretty damm insulting to any veteran of any war.

The biggest joke with this whole elite vs standard is that for some sad reason 'elite' units often more leans towards standing around like in a fashion show and complain how the thread is not aryan enough rather than have some form of credibility.
 

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Reenacting is still very much a privatized thing so it's really up to the reenactor as to what he really wants to do. He can jump into an event as realistically as he can or he can walk out like a bulletproof Dirty Harry. There's a lot of pressure from groups to get people to make it realistic at least for the public's sake (but it usually turns into a PC acting stage) but when you have people buying their own gear and driving out to the events, some units will accept quantity over quality.
 

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some more :D

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the mp40 is a blank firer
 
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Alexander Ostmann

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That stuff looks great!

Fortunately, the public probably does not have the knowledge you do, so they won't go around pointing fingers saying "ZOMG NOT REAL PEE 3!" :p
 

LemoN

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That hardly was his point.
Exactly, converting some surplus 60's APC into an functional mock-up tank is actually quite an achievement. There's a couple of things not right which betrays it as a "not real" conversion, but it's still very well done overall.

@ the Sd.Kfz. 251/10

I suppose that's an OT-810 with mock-up Pak 36?
 
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