Rage thread against so called hardcore RO1 players.TW please read.

[Sight]

Made these statements already but i want them to have a own thread so TW reads them.Thansk for your understanding.

Here we go:

All these "hardcore" suggestions with more sway, slower aiming down the sight and slower running/faster exhaustion just favour the defense, which just sucks!

Uber sway sucks because defenders don t have sway because they are prone and/or behind cover ....

Slower aiming down the sights kills attackers and ppl on the run because the defense is already aiming down the sight and zoomed in.

Slower running makes the attackers/running ppl an easier target.

Faster exhaustion is a pain in the *** for the attackers because they need more time to reach their object.

More sway after running sucks for the attackers because when they reached the front line they can t hit anything because of the uber sway.Furthermore the defense is aiming down the sight, zoomed in and behind cover.Now the attackers are forced to do luck shot s with their lottery guns because he just ran, has sway and is completely exhausted because you wan t them to get out of breath really fast.

Come on guys... use your mind ... This just sucks !

You loved RO1 with completely crazy SMG recoil and now you scream realism.

All this i play RO1 since 1945 and i want RO2 to be the same , just sucks.You guys are stuck in the past and don't realise the phenomenal job TW has achieved.

It would even suck if hardcore servers would have these options because most of these suggestions just favour camping, defending using prone.... Ppl on the move now are exhausted,supressed and often have to stand while firing without cover and are now completely screwed. .... gay ..... All these suggetions just strenghten the defense.
The gameplay is brilliant at the moment!

 

[Maizel]

It would even suck if hardcore servers would have these options because most of these suggestions just favour camping, defending using prone.... Ppl on the move and usally supressed und fire and e.g. have to stand while firing without cover are completely screwed. .... gay ..... All these suggetions just strenghten the defense.
The gameplay is brilliant at the moment!

I think players would be very capable of making up their own minds, whatever way the modes get implemented.

 

[Gat0r]

Made these statements already but i want them to have a own thread so TW reads them.Thansk for your understanding.

It would even suck if hardcore servers would have these options because most of these suggestions just favour camping, defending using prone.... Ppl on the move and usally supressed und fire and e.g. have to stand while firing without cover are completely screwed. .... gay ..... All these suggetions just strenghten the defense.
The gameplay is brilliant at the moment!

I concur. Everyone should be running at all times. Thats how it really happened.

 

[Stephen]

I think players would be very capable of making up their own minds, whatever way the modes get implemented.

That's a dangerous road to go down. Don't you think it's easier for 'the man' to make these difficult choices for you?

 

[grothesj2]

I concur. Everyone should be running at all times. Thats how it really happened.

-notes the apparent dripping sarcasm and approves-

 

[Maizel]

That's a dangerous road to go down. Don't you think it's easier for 'the man' to make these difficult choices for you?

Are you reading what you're saying?

I don't see why people shouldn't be able to lobby for a particular implementation of a gamemode.


OP is calling on TWI to change nothing. I respect that, though I don't see why OP should rage when people call for things to be implemented differently.

 

[Soldier of Failure]

Supressing the defenders.....

How does it work?

 

[Hillstorm]

Sounds like you just want everything to be fair? Regardless if it makes sense?

Like in war, when they tweaked things to make sure everything on all sides was fair.

For my part, there are some things I like about the new version, and some I still prefer about the old. P.s, all of those advantages/disadvantages can be worked with by crafting the maps and objectives carefully, IMO. Not by fixing them through game mechanics. At least that's my feeling at the moment. I am very much enjoying RO2, though.

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

Only thing I'd like to see is more sway based on your exhaustion and/or morale.

The running speed and aiming down the sights is fine and the "attackers," or anyone really, deserve to have them in their current state.

But sway should go up a bit. It's currently too low if you've just sprinted 100m and are completely exhausted, yet somehow exactly as stable with your aiming as you would've been without doing any of that running.

 

[Vegard]

How do I -1 the threadstarters post..

 

[placebo]

Sounds like you should fit right into "relaxed realism" Have fun.

 

[DoubleSleven]

I agree Heroes of Stalingrad is not Red Orchestra 1 it is Red Orchestra 2 and has been refined and retooled and remapped. It will play similar to the first but not the same, I expected as much and I love the changes I think its far more superior to RO1.

No one is forcing you to play RO2 the game is made and done and will be shipping soon and little to no major changes will be made, it's fine the way it is. Insulting this game is insulting to TW and all the hard work they put into this game, if this isn't hardcore enough for you then I suggest you go back to playing RO1 and 24/7 Danzig servers, have fun.


I'll be playing RO2

 

[Schnitzel15]

I agree with the OP. Everything is fine as it is, just needs some bug fixing.

 

[melipone]

I fully support exposing more players to RO gameplay, and if it means changing stuff from RO1-RO2 without spoiling the overall feel of the game then I don't mind at all. I think the Realism mode should account for players from RO1 that want a more hardcore experience though without radars, harder to aim weapons (sway etc) etc

I think a main aim was to make the game more accessible which is great, but I think weapon balance needs looking at at some point as SMG/Semi's seem to do what bolts do as well or better and give suppression at the same time, and are obviously easier to use with high rate of fire/low recoil. I've always been about FUN realism though, I actually liked the SMGs being hard to control and Bolts having noticably better accuracy than semi's and more damage. If TWI can balance the guns while keep believable realism I'll probably enjoy the game for longer

 

[Stareht]

I agree Heroes of Stalingrad is not Red Orchestra 1 it is Red Orchestra 2 and has been refined and retooled and remapped. It will play similar to the first but not the same, I expected as much and I love the changes I think its far more superior to RO1.

No one is forcing you to play RO2 the game is made and done and will be shipping soon and little to no major changes will be made, it's fine the way it is. Insulting this game is insulting to TW and all the hard work they put into this game, if this isn't hardcore enough for you then I suggest you go back to playing RO1 and 24/7 Danzig servers, have fun.


I'll be playing RO2

a scam or what if its not red orchestra dont call it red orchestra

 

[Princeps]

The OP is often compared to styrofoam and rocks when considering his level of intelligence.

 

[Gat0r]

Insulting this game is insulting to TW and all the hard work they put into this game, if this isn't hardcore enough for you then I suggest you go back to playing RO1 and 24/7 Danzig servers, have fun.

If the I-phone isn't good enough for you I suggest you go play with your Blackberry and shut up. We are Apple and deserve money for the sole purpose of clocking in to work on this phone, whether anyone likes it or not.

 

[Maizel]

RO2 wants to broaden it's playerbase, I respect that. But you don't do that by taking away one one end, and adding on the other.

I think that between the relaxed realism, Hardcore and custom gamemodes, there should be room for people that want different things. I just hope TWI gives us the option.

 

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[Lost Cipher]

RO2 wants to broaden it's playerbase, I respect that. But you don't do that by taking away one one end, and adding on the other.

I think that between the relaxed realism, Hardcore and custom gamemodes, there should be room for people that want different things. I just hope TWI gives us the option.

I agree completely with Maizel, each player can have their cup of tea. Be it Relaxed Realism or Hardcore Realism. The best thing for us to do now is find the bugs and help TWI squash them.