It would if that meant stopping the bullet, making a corpse more effective cover (true buddy-cover).
Generally replication of rag dolls is not done. So taking cover behind dead bodies would be easier if there weren't any rag dolls.
Ragdpll physics?
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Generally replication of rag dolls is not done. So taking cover behind dead bodies would be easier if there weren't any rag dolls.
The only thing about the ragdoll in RO is how sometimes you would fly back a little more than someone being shot by a certain gun would in real life.
A good example is if you get shot in mid air when you are diving. Sometimes you almost flip backwards.
A good example is if you get shot in mid air when you are diving. Sometimes you almost flip backwards.
The only thing about the ragdoll in RO is how sometimes you would fly back a little more than someone being shot by a certain gun would in real life.
A good example is if you get shot in mid air when you are diving. Sometimes you almost flip backwards.
That and how certain body parts always seem to sway for awhile after they hit the ground. Like the head swaying side to side or an arm. Sometimes it looks really cool like they aren't completely done for yet but it happens too often. I liked AA's weightiness too. RO's was certainly one of the better examples though.
I generally like CoDs mix of death animation + ragdoll, it's definitely the best way to approach it, it gives a much more natural looking death effect.
BF2s ragdolls are laughable, but part of the charm when you get hit by an artillery barrage and fly hundreds of feet into the air!
BF2s ragdolls are laughable, but part of the charm when you get hit by an artillery barrage and fly hundreds of feet into the air!
Source based games like Team Fortress 2 and L4D have some brilliant looking ragdoll technology.
With Source physics, the bodies have a certain weight to them that just feels "right".
Ive seen ragdolls done in other games and they just look bad. Even Crysis' ragdolls looked poor to me, very stiff and unconvincing.
With Source physics, the bodies have a certain weight to them that just feels "right".
Ive seen ragdolls done in other games and they just look bad. Even Crysis' ragdolls looked poor to me, very stiff and unconvincing.
Dunno, source ragdolls feel horrible to me...
They bounce around and slide across the floor as if they were puppets filled with straw.
they have havok. How they respond to motion is horrible, they fly like theyre under water, they dont accelerate when they fall, just slow down to a certain speed and float down.
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In Red Orchestra Ostfront the ragdolls were really great! Aperance, "destruction" and physics. They are acaly the best ragdolls I've seen so far.
The source engine's ragdolls looks weird when they strangely just spawn when the character dies.
The CoD ones looks weird when the "death animation" stops and they bacome ragdolls. A kind "yay I has physics now" feeling.
But the red orchestra ones, my my. Its somthing special with them, seeing dead soldiers halfway sitting against walls like if someone had posed them there. Or other laying in ditches with there arms infront of there heads. (I do sound like a murder now don't I?)
Theres just one thing bothering me with the HOS soldiers, it looks like there clothes are a part of there body. Too... stretchy.
Anyway, greate game! Can't wait for the beta of some sort.
The source engine's ragdolls looks weird when they strangely just spawn when the character dies.
The CoD ones looks weird when the "death animation" stops and they bacome ragdolls. A kind "yay I has physics now" feeling.
But the red orchestra ones, my my. Its somthing special with them, seeing dead soldiers halfway sitting against walls like if someone had posed them there. Or other laying in ditches with there arms infront of there heads. (I do sound like a murder now don't I?
)Theres just one thing bothering me with the HOS soldiers, it looks like there clothes are a part of there body. Too... stretchy.
Anyway, greate game! Can't wait for the beta of some sort.
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maybe a stupid question can we take cover behid i pile of dead body's would be realistic
Ture, the amount of cover may not be much, unless its a... "heavy" officer(or a world class boxer from the ural mountins).
But. If you add ragdoll to bullet collision, you might need ragdoll to player collisions(wich is really bugging while walking a corridor if dead teammates and enemies you just picked off with a grenade.
No worries though, I'd be supriesed if ir would be in the game.
p.s.
What I would like to se is people "ragdolling" when getting a pullet in there head, but wen shot in let say.. the guts they fall down(more alive) then ragdoll in the middle of their fall or somthing, not on the ground becous then were talking CoD. And I hate people lying half way in the air for a sec, then becoming a ragdoll.
(Then we have the "injured system" wich I don't really know how it works.)
I put my trust in the devs.
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Maybe so but i still think the original RO captures it the best, it looks fluid and natural especially from a distance and you get a sense of weight. From what i've seen in RO2 so far it doesn't hold up against the first one.. it looks jagged and really unnatural but its obviously not finalized yet.
I also like the fog in RO1, it might be annoying to some but it prevents lame popups and you get the sense of a dirty ww2 athmosphere, RO2 is looking very colorful atm.
I could not agree more heady89.
As said before, the cod ones are really bad.
You snipe one in the head, still he crawls down on the gound and lays in mid air for a half sec, then spawns as a ragdoll.
As said before, the cod ones are really bad.
You snipe one in the head, still he crawls down on the gound and lays in mid air for a half sec, then spawns as a ragdoll.
A kind "yay I has physics now" feeling.
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CS:S have good realistic ragdolls too ->
Riiiiiiiiiight
because all dead people are raging homosexualsAnyway, I think some good ragdoll+anim blending would be great for people being shot and not dying instantly, while a straight (well done) ragdoll would be nice for people killed outright or by explosions. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what TWI has come up with.
YouTube - Overgrowth Alpha 114 changes - Wolfire Games
Wolfire have done it guite well. Compination of ragdoll and animation.
Wolfire have done it guite well. Compination of ragdoll and animation.
So long as the ragdoll maintains momentum unlike RO ost, i will be happy.
At least in this video, it seems that forward movement at least causes the ragdoll to fall forward (see 0:30 and 2:20).
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/pax-10-red-orchestra/704271
Same in this video at 2:30
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-11-red-orchestra/711636